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im like wondering what are the odds of hitting a nerve in that bf%, did op get like really fucking lucky or is it like marginal chance to actually hit a nerve
Have u noticed extra bloat from even moderate weight gain. Seems that even barely gaining any bf bloated harderThe main risk with self injecting comes from vascular occlusion, but you'd have to be extremely unlucky for it to happen and I've never heard of it happening with fat dissolvers, only thicker material like fillers. Just aspirate and there's practically no risk
T. Been self injecting fillers for years
Appreciate it, what do u mean by that?Just aspirate and there's practically no risk
Injecting from the inside is saferBest thread I've seen in a minute on this forum. Mirin' the knowledge and lowinhibness to follow thru. Definitely need to try this for myself, feeling like I have to pee constantly while on Furosemide is not peak.
Do you think you benefited more from injecting the outside or the inside targetting the buccal fat pads?
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
...
After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
View attachment 2759493
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
View attachment 2759573
from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
View attachment 2759897
Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
...
I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD
How do you avoid nerves though?I don't care for testimonials, I want to see clinical studies.
chiropractor are also popular, they've also crippled more people than they've ever helped.
it is not hard to avoid major arteries on the face, and there aren't any in the buccal fat area.
View attachment 2763928
it's not injected deep enough to be realistically worried about those, you can also just pinch the skin.How do you avoid nerves though?
I suspected so. What length needle would you recommend? 5mm insulin ones?it's not injected deep enough to be realistically worried about those, you can also just pinch the skin.
ideally, the subq layer is at 5-7mmI suspected so. What length needle would you recommend? 5mm insulin ones?
Wouldn’t the depth vary depending on how much fat is there?ideally, the subq layer is at 5-7mm
only issue is that you'd dull the needle from drawing, they don't have interchangeable needles.
Glad OP answered my question and helped us figure out the solution to lower cheek fat even though his initial post did not allude to anything but just him lacking IQ on knowing whether or not injecting inside or outside his cheeks helped him. Good to know we have such esteemed looksmaxxers failing to provide such basic knowledge , you’re doing God’s work fr fr.Best thread I've seen in a minute on this forum. Mirin' the knowledge and lowinhibness to follow thru. Definitely need to try this for myself, feeling like I have to pee constantly while on Furosemide is not peak.
Do you think you benefited more from injecting the outside or the inside targetting the buccal fat pads?
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
...
After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
View attachment 2759493
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
View attachment 2759573
from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
View attachment 2759897
Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
...
I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD
Glad OP answered my question and helped us figure out the solution to lower cheek fat even though his initial post did not allude to anything but just him lacking IQ on knowing whether or not injecting inside or outside his cheeks helped him. Good to know we have such esteemed looksmaxxers failing to provide such basic knowledge , you’re doing God’s work fr fr.
Ignore both of these please, I was very drunklmao You obviously are bogarting ur results and not actually telling us how to ascend with your experiment. lol Imagine gatekeeping a bunch of incels for zero profit meanwhile LTBs are simply ascending cuz they “magically” got a semaglutide script. Like bro just tell us how you did it lol, it really is not that difficult.
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
...
After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
View attachment 2759493
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
View attachment 2759573
from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
View attachment 2759897
Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
...
I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
...
After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
View attachment 2759493
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
View attachment 2759573
from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
View attachment 2759897
Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
...
I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD
explain the risks then lil broAny naive dumbass stupid enough to risk this and inevitably fail is getting what's coming to them. Even when i was a desperate 4/10 subhuman loser wanting to rope, i would have never done this. I bet more than 80% of those who will try this hasnt even attemped to softmax. This is not good advice, this is retarded and the benefits does not outweigh the risks.
In the original postexplain the risks then lil bro
Why are you trying to murder people? no mention of prick test/any safety precautions.Thank you!
yes, it is. Ignore all the articles saying it’s dangerous; it’s not.
The purity may not be up to human standard, but it remains the same molecule.
Cats are like 1/30 the weight of humans. If it’s safe for cats, it’s safe for humans…
It is painful but you need good technique (injecting at 90°) to feel less pain.
Depending on the gauge of your needle, the pain will be different too.
The procedure:
1 hour for lidocaine to (hopefully) take effect, then, injecting the LemonBottle can be a short as 10-15 mins if you’re quick and know what you’re doing. Took me like 2 hours tho lol, but’s cus i was fucking around, recording myself, and doing research at the same time.
I hate to break it to you, but waterpulling was a joke. Don’t do it. (Shhhh)
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
...
After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
View attachment 2759493
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
View attachment 2759573
from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
View attachment 2759897
Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
...
I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD
I am pretty much softmaxxed. The only things holding me back from being in my prime are occasional acne, and stubborn fat pads that stop me from having hollow cheeks at all times.
I would often take high doses of furosemide to get hollow cheeks within minutes, but furosemide would also rid my eye area of its water, so I'd sometimes get awful UEE.
The solution was simple: getting rid of some of my subcutaneous facial fat would allow me to maintain hollow cheeks at all times.
However, in ridding my face of its fat, my main concern was premature aging. Facial fat removal makes your face age poorly too, when done incorrectly. Obviously i did not want that. I therefore had to stay conservative with the fat I would remove.
In order to mimic buccal fat pad removal I would target my buccal fat pad with fat dissolver.
Indeed, removing/dissolving buccal fat pads is completely fine, since, unlike what you may think, buccal fat pads get larger as we age (source).
I would never argue that buccal fat pad removal makes one look younger, but it definetly does not make one look older.
Let's have a look at the way facial fat distribution changes as we age.
Here is Emmanuel Macron:
View attachment 2758908
The red crosses are where he has lost facial fat.
The blue crosses are where he gained fat.
Emmanuel has lost weight since his younger years, so this is not the best comparison. However, this pattern applies to most people.
People lose facial fat in the upper part of the face (i.e. cheeks, temples, eye area), and gain facial fat in the lower part of the face (buccal area, jowls, neck).
Keep in mind, the buccal fat pad is lower than what you'd expect:
View attachment 2758904
Takeaway: To maintain youthfulness and to prevent your face from aging poorly, you want to dissolve fat ONLY IN the lower part of the face.
Before I start talking about the procedure, I would like to credit and thank @Kristin who also recently did this procedure and saved my ass from going blind, and taught me quite a bit about H******* P*** (read further to find out ).
Now to the procedure itself:
There is a new fat dissolver to the market, called LemonBottle.
View attachment 2759676
LemonBottle has become really popular in recent months because of different reasons:
- Its ingredients: Riboflavin, Lecithin, and Bromelain, are from natural origins.
- There is no swelling post-op, compared to other fat dissolvers.
- Instant to 48-hour results, where as other fat dissolvers take upto a few weeks to show results.
- More effective than other fat dissolvers. People who opt for LemonBottle need less sessions than those who opt for Aqualyx, Kybella, etc.
Tbh I don't give a fuck whether it's natural or not, I just want instant and visible results.
How it works:
Riboflavin, or Vitamin B2, is key for energy production and enhances the body's fat metabolism, aiding in the breakdown and removal of fat cells. Lecithin acts as an emulsifier, disrupting fat cell membranes to make fats more processable by the body. Meanwhile, Bromelain, sourced from pineapple stems, has anti-inflammatory benefits and supports the elimination of fat cells.*
*yes, I did write this, so read it.
View attachment 2759679
more info about LemonBottle here: https://www.sidmedicos.com/howitworks
Now back to me:
As you (hopefully) know, the face is full of nerves and blood vessels, that you must not damage. You can paralyse your face, or a part of it, if a syringe needle were to pierce through them. You can even go blind if you are not careful.
View attachment 2759148
As you can see above, the injection sites for our fat dissolver (circled in red) include 3 branches of the facial nerve we MUST avoid at all costs.
To limit possible nerve damage, I wanted to avoid using needles on my face. So instead of needles, I opted for a Hyaluron Pen.
View attachment 2759751
A Hyaluron Pen is essentially a needleless syringe. It uses compressed air to push the product (often fat dissolver or HA filler) through the skin barrier.
You can read about all the *supposed* advantages of Hyaluron Pens, but at the end of the day, they are not FDA-approved, so be careful.
View attachment 2759185
View attachment 2759189
I will not be giving the link to the Hyaluron Pen I bought. However, my advice is to not cheap out when buying one.
You will also see later in this thread that Hyaluron Pens and LemonBottle don't work great together.
The procedure:
I started by applying some Lidocaine on my cheeks to numb them (which did not work at all) and I was off!
Here is a quick video of my messy setup:
And here is what I looked like before starting the procedure:
I am aware that I had very little facial fat before, but:
View attachment 2759374
The beginning of the procedure was rough. I kept missing my shots with the Hyaluron Pen. They would not penetrate the skin, so the fat dissolver was simply being wasted.
After a few attempts, I got my first semi-successful shot!
You can tell a shot is successful when there is a small hole in your skin and blood pours out.
In this case, blood poured out, but you can also see the LemonBottle dripping down my cheek, meaning it did not (fully) enter my skin.
I kept trying with the Hyaluron Pen, but it was failure after failure; the product refused to enter my skin, although I pinched my skin and held the pen at 90°, like one should.
I had wasted about 1ml of LemonBottle before I decided to screw the Hyaluron Pen and go low-inhib by simply using an insulin syringe .
Shit was kinda scary cus I could have paralysed myself at any moment if I wasn't careful .
I also failed a few times:
But in total I injected about 6ml of LemonBottle in my face.
Here's a quick montage, TURN YO VOLUME UP:
@Seth Walsh @dragomaxxer
As you saw, I had no strict injection areas, with no strict dose.
I have so little fat that I just injected approximately, with varying doses, depending on how much unwanted fat there was in the specific area.
I also binge ate a 500g bag of Takis Blue Heat before this, so forgive the bloat and blue lips.
Please do not comment on how subhuman I look, my BDD is already bad atm, so you should be grateful I'm posting these vids in the first place.
Here is how unlicensed aestheticians perform the procedure:
You're obviously very unlikely likely to hit a nerve when you're injecting needles in someone as chubby as that woman. No aesthetician would take me as fat-dissolving patient, because of the high risk of nerve-damage .
You guys are on a looksmaxxing forum, so I assume you are as lean as me, or maybe even more, so DIY is the way!
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After injecting in most parts of my lower-face, there still was one area I really wanted to slim down.
That area was the tip of my nose; don't we all wish for a slimmer nose tip?
Some of you have figured that topical corticosteroids, bimatoprost, and even tretinoin have the ability to slim the nose tip.
This is likely because they burn the subcutaneous fat in the nose.
"BuT mUh ThE nOsE iS oNlY cArTiLaGe AnD sKiN, tHeRe Is No FaT iN tHe NoSe"
Misconception debunked:
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-012-0012-1
So of course I tried injecting LemonBottle in my nose:
It was painful as fuck though, I'll be honest .
Results?
Yes. But.
I did not get any IMMEDIATE results, like many claim to get. This is no-doubt because of my extremely low facial fat.
After 2 days of no apparent results, I decided to use more of the remaining LemonBottle I had, and to inject it straight into my buccal fat pads.
By this, I mean injecting from inside my mouth.
When surgeons perform buccal fat pad removal, they always do it from inside the mouth:
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from here.
Not only is this to avoid leaving an externally visible scar, but it is mostly to avoid nerve damage since the buccal branch of the facial nerve is superficial to the buccal fat pad. This way, surgeons get direct access to the fat pad, without having to worry about hitting nerves.
With this in mind, I injected LemonBottle below the Stenson Duct, which is adjacent to your second molar.
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Go to the Technique or Treatment section of this article for the instructions I followed.
I injected approx 1ml of LemonBottle in each buccal fat pad, which is A LOT.
I therefore expect them to shrink substantially over the course of the next few weeks.
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I am currently writing this 1 week after the initial procedure.
The results are noticeable to me, and they were noticeable to my mom on FaceTime.
What I like the most, is that even when I overload on sodium (i.e. I get bloated), I still seem very lean.
It feels like I am now immune to facial bloat.
Furthermore, when I now take furosemide, I look like a 60 year old lifelong coke addict. Shit is so scary that I don't wanna take a picture .
I have no clear "results" picture, because 1) you probably would not notice the results, and 2) my skin is really fucked up because of those needles and I don't wanna take pics at the moment.
However, here is what I looked like, after eating McDonald's (sodium bloat) and at the club (alcohol bloat) 2 days ago.
Forgive the low quality. I was not cheek sucking, just clenching masseters.
What about my nose?
It definitely lost some bulbosity, but the difference is subtle. Once again, I need to wait a few weeks to see the true results.
I'm not expecting anything crazy though, since the fatty tissue in the nose is quite minimal...
All in all, I spent around £200 on this procedure.
I believe that you will benefit from this more than I did.
Although my results are for now minimal, I am glad I did it.
One thing I insist on, is that you ensure you are injecting safely.
This is not like pinning MT2 in your stomach or Test-E in your thigh, you are risking facial paralysis and going blind here!
Now that I have a Hyaluron Pen, I will very likely start self-injecting filler soon . Expect a thread on that within a few weeks.
Once again, a huge thanks to @Kristin for saving my life and for teaching me quite a bit about the Hyaluron Pen.
Tagging people who could be interested: @j05 @chrisN @Tr0ubLe @tristan18 @mitblg (my irl bhai) @Meraki
pneumo fixing his BDD