I dont care about morals anymore

[Esteban1997]

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[Deleted member 55437]

Ok

 

[Deleted member 99987]

Good

 

[Esteban1997]

Good

You dont need to much experienced about Life to know how fucked Up this world is

 

[Deleted member 43881]

You dont need to much experienced about Life to know how fucked Up this world is

the world isnt fucked, it's that your morals are wrong. if your mind was aligned with nature then you would see that everything happens exactly as it should

 

[Jiaxi]

dance dance dance

 

[Esteban1997]

the world isnt fucked, it's that your morals are wrong. if your mind was aligned with nature then you would see that everything happens exactly as it should

Could be true but im speaking from my experience like i said in my previous post i hate my country with a burning passion

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Could be true but im speaking from my experience like i said in my previous post i hate my country with a burning passion

Since you are also who you were in your past because you arent the same as your past but still call your past self you then you are also your ancestors. Thus its your fault or merit for everything that you are because you (your ancestors) caused you to be there.

 

[Esteban1997]

Since you are also who you were in your past because you arent the same as your past but still call your past self you then you are also your ancestors. Thus its your fault or merit for everything that you are because you (your ancestors) caused you to be there.

Why IS It my fault? I didnt ask this..

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Why IS It my fault? I didnt ask this..

Because you are your ancestors so you deserve everything that you are and nothing more

You said that you hate your country when everything outside of you is neutral the only thing in the world that can be judged is yourself

 

[Esteban1997]

Because you are your ancestors so you deserve everything that you are and nothing more

You said that you hate your country when everything outside of you is neutral the only thing in the world that can be judged is yourself

Thats the dumbest shit ive ever Heard so i got to pay for their mistakes? Let me fucking live my life..

 

[Esteban1997]

Because you are your ancestors so you deserve everything that you are and nothing more

You said that you hate your country when everything outside of you is neutral the only thing in the world that can be judged is yourself

It doesnt Matter if they wish me harm because what they do goes back to them

 

[Sociobiology]

the world isnt fucked, it's that your morals are wrong. if your mind was aligned with nature then you would see that everything happens exactly as it should

This is called the just world fallacy.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

This is called the just world fallacy.

Why do you think it’s wrong?

 

[Sociobiology]

Why do you think it’s wrong?

Because Hume's Guillotine is valid.

 

[Sociobiology]

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You let other people decide your moral code, which they used to control you, and now you abandon morals altogether instead of creating a moral system for yourself.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Because Hume's Guillotine is valid.

I’m basing the just world fallacy on that it works not because it exists

 

[Sociobiology]

I’m basing the just world fallacy on that it works not that just from that it exists

It does not work.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

It does not work.

Ethics should be based on what works best to succeed by nature

Believing something other than this will make you lose against someone who does, so it succeeds all other ethical systems

 

[Sociobiology]

Ethics should be based on what works best to succeed by nature

Believing something other than this will make you lose against someone who does, so it succeeds all other ethical systems

Unironically nature is a social construct.

 

[FascisstChad]

Morals don’t exist. It’s purely subjective. What’s good for the robber is bad for the victim. The robber gets the victims resources and his life is better so for him it was good and just. But the victim has less and will face more difficulties so for them it’s wrong.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Unironically nature is a social construct.

There’s two logical solutions to ethical philosophy. Nihilism is logically sound but nihilists lose. The only reason you exist is to succeed, if people didn’t desire success then you wouldn’t exist. You don’t know anything else other than success, the basis and reason to philosophize is to succeed. You choose to die or to succeed

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Morals don’t exist. It’s purely subjective. What’s good for the robber is bad for the victim. The robber gets the victims resources and his life is better so for him it was good and just. But the victim has less and will face more difficulties so for them it’s wrong.

Egotistical morals exist

 

[FascisstChad]

Egotistical morals exist

That’s what I said. Why did you react with hmm then.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

That’s what I said. Why did you react with hmm then.

You said morals don’t exist but they exist they are just different morals

 

[FascisstChad]

You said morals don’t exist but they exist they are just different morals

I said objective morals don’t, subjective morals do as it depends on the person. What’s good for the rapist isn’t necessarily good for the raped.

 

[yayatourer]

Ethics should be based on what works best to succeed by nature

Believing something other than this will make you lose against someone who does, so it succeeds all other ethical systems

I agree with everything you say but to play the devil advocate, lets say that some ethics traits that goes against success in nature allow you to succeed in social situations (normies morals) then which one to follow ?

 

[Deleted member 43881]

I agree with everything you say but to play the devil advocate, lets say that some ethics traits that goes against success in nature allow you to succeed in social situations (normies morals) then which one to follow ?

Success by nature includes using others beliefs for your own for example if I can make money by pretending to be a Muslim then it’s success for me to so it’s good for me to do that

The morals had and morals expressed aren’t the same

 

[yayatourer]

Success by nature includes using others beliefs for your own for example if I can make money by pretending to be a Muslim then it’s success for me to so it’s good for me to do that

The morals had and morals expressed aren’t the same

It’s all very situational that’s why people cope. Most people don’t want to see the truth and change their beliefs because it’s hard work Even though it would increase their success. Our priority is to survive on an instinctual level which means individually day after day. Only people with a developed prefrontal cortex will see one day, one month, one year, one thousand year in advance to go as far as protecting their DNA with provisions

 

[Deleted member 43881]

It’s all very situational that’s why people cope. Most people don’t want to see the truth and change their beliefs because it’s hard work Even though it would increase their success. Our priority is to survive on an instinctual level which means individually day after day. Only people with a developed prefrontal cortex will see one day, one month, one year, one thousand year in advance to go as far as protecting their DNA with provisions

It’s better the worse people are

 

[Sociobiology]

There’s two logical solutions to ethical philosophy. Nihilism is logically sound but nihilists lose. The only reason you exist is to succeed, if people didn’t desire success then you wouldn’t exist. You don’t know anything else other than success, the basis and reason to philosophize is to succeed. You choose to die or to succeed

Your word choice is weird. Please elaborate.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Your word choice is weird. Please elaborate.

All living things exist to succeed darwinistically, all emotions and logic exist as tools for success. Nihilism says nothing matters, the nihilist gets killed in darwinism. The nihilist loses, while the successor succeeded. The laws of the universe are perfect because it can’t be broken. There is no reason to dispute them because it’s beneficial for you to play by them, especially since there’s no other rules that have any basis.

 

[Sociobiology]

All living things exist to succeed darwinistically

Do you mean all organisms exist to reproduce? This is a Western worldview, it is not objectively true.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Do you mean all organisms exist to reproduce? This is a Western worldview, it is not objectively true.

Everything that exists of it is to grow, how is it not?

 

[Sociobiology]

Everything that exists of it is to grow, how is it not?

"Existing to grow" implies that there is a creator behind life and that they endowed us with a purpose, which is not true since we have not been able to empirically find any proof of this creator (as of yet).

 

[Deleted member 43881]

"Existing to grow" implies that there is a creator behind life and that they endowed us with a purpose, which is not true since we have not been able to empirically find any proof of this creator (as of yet).

There doesn’t need to be, the only function of all life is to grow, without following this you die.

 

[got.daim]

so alpha.. we all flinched at this thread btw