I don't even find roasties (21+ yo women) ugly.

[MoggerGaston]

It's just that their personalities are always so rotten and completely fucked up. They are so vile, bitter, calculated in their interactions with men.

There's is no love, trust, fun, joy anymore in these women. They want money from a guy, status, they don't trust you easily, always scheming behind your back. Talking to many men at once, dating multiple men at once. They will easily ditch and replace you for the smallest issue/problem, they aren't loyal, they are bitter and complain all the time.

Older women have insufferable personalities, which is the main reason why JB-love mogs so fucking hard.

And besides that, if you LTR a 14yo, she will be 23yo at some time and then u get to enjoy her at that age too. It's a long-term investment that just keeps paying off.

Investing in a 21+yo foid is an investment that just keeps declining in value with severe risks and implications involved. NEVER worth it.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Always some massive fucking baggage too because these single 21+yo foids have been dating chad fuckboys and players. Always massive trust-issues, feminist mindset, misandry, etc.

JBs dont have this.

 

[oily703]

what is a truecel such as yourself going to ltr then?

 

[MoggerGaston]

what is a truecel such as yourself going to ltr then?

MGTOW.

I could LTR a LTB/MTB my own age but it's such a shit risk/cost/benefit consideration that it would be the most retarded thing I could ever do.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I’m sorry bro but all women regardless of age are like this

 

[oily703]

MGTOW.

what does this mean

that it would be the most retarded thing I could ever do.

why?
from what i can tell you just rot on this forum and jerk off all day
i feel like trying to do these types of things could help you regain that blissful bluepill ignorance

 

[moreplatesmoreweigh]

 

[MoggerGaston]

I’m sorry bro but all women regardless of age are like this

Juat be first is real

 

[MoggerGaston]

what does this mean

Men going their own way and rejecting relationships with women all together.

why?
from what i can tell you just rot on this forum and jerk off all day
i feel like trying to do these types of things could help you regain that blissful bluepill ignorance

Well you are an idiot if you think this about me. Ive been bluepilled till 23yo and been extremely socially active.

Only complete failure, trueceldom, made me retreat in social isolation

 

[lurking truecel]

MGTOW.

I could LTR a LTB/MTB my own age but it's such a shit risk/cost/benefit consideration that it would be the most retarded thing I could ever do.

Longterming a whore is not worth a dime

 

[oily703]

Ive been bluepilled till 23yo and been extremely socially active.

Only complete failure, trueceldom, made me retreat in social isolation

mentalcel?
besides what do you want to do with the rest of your life
betabuxx?

 

[MoggerGaston]

mentalcel?

uglycel

besides what do you want to do with the rest of your life
betabuxx?

nah ofcourse not.

I will minimalist-lifemax. Live off NEETbux or some part-time job. Chilling, doing drugs, raving, exercise, going on holidays, hobbies, pets, etc.

keep yourself busy and avoid LTR/women. Only some hookups/fwb arrangements if they come easily, or escort-maxxing.

 

[oily703]

uglycel

if you had an active social life till 23 i doubt its that bad

Men going their own way and rejecting relationships with women all together.

I will minimalist-lifemax. Live off NEETbux or somet part-time job. Chilling, doing drugs, raving, exercise, going on holidays, hobbies, pets, etc.

keep yourself busy and avoid LTR/women. Only some hookups/fwb arrangements if they come easily, or escort-maxxing.

i just got the memo
good for you tbh at least you know what you want to do

 

[Clown Show]

I will start hanging around high schools during breaks and shift ends and start approaching JBs.

 

[b0ygamer]

Always some massive fucking baggage too because these single 21+yo foids have been dating chad fuckboys and players. Always massive trust-issues, feminist mindset, misandry, etc.

JBs dont have this.

Even JBs have these issues.
They would still fuck their celebrity crushes and choose chads that aren't you prior to meeting them. You would just be taking advantage of them being naive and young, hoping to get in before they are exposed to other men.

In all honesty this approach will work, but it wouldn't be because they are more "pure", it's because you compensate by being older. You would still be fucking the same rotten hole.

And all of those issues you listed with older women are because they aren't talking to chad. They are loyal to chad, they reassure chad, they constantly give gifts to chad, they only want chad. The problem isn't the roastie, its you, they are fully capable of being a good girlfriend. This is water not sure how you aren't aware of this. Chad treatment is the only type of love you should accept.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I will start hanging around high schools during breaks and shift ends and start approaching JBs.

i am personally thinking of high-school teachermaxxing tbh.

I think it may be my only chance. Constant influx of new young JBs and close-contact with them in a non-forced or awkward way.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Even JBs have these issues.
They would still fuck their celebrity crushes and choose chads that aren't you prior to meeting them. You would just be taking advantage of them being naive and young, hoping to get in before they are exposed to other men.

In all honesty this approach will work, but it wouldn't be because they are more "pure", it's because you compensate by being older. You would still be fucking the same rotten hole.

And all of those issues you listed with older women are because they aren't talking to chad. They are loyal to chad, they reassure chad, they constantly give gifts to chad, they only want chad. The problem isn't the roastie, its you, they are fully capable of being a good girlfriend. This is water not sure how you aren't aware of this. Chad treatment is the only type of love you should accept.

nah ur wrong. JBs have simply much lower standards for men in general, not just looks but also more accepting of flaws and other things they don't like simply because they don't know any better and don't have any experience of what a man could be like.

This is water. Female standards/demands go up as they get older.

 

[thereallegend]

MGTOW.

I could LTR a LTB/MTB my own age but it's such a shit risk/cost/benefit consideration that it would be the most retarded thing I could ever do.

You’re LTN just like me. You should be content with LTRing LTB just like me.

 

[MoggerGaston]

You’re LTN just like me. You should be content with LTRing LTB just like me.

Good response.

Life is changing and not in good ways. Realistically I don't have the looks so I need lower my expectations.

 

[b0ygamer]

nah ur wrong. JBs have simply much lower standards for men in general, not just looks but also more accepting of flaws and other things they don't like simply because they don't know any better and don't have any experience of what a man could be like.

This is water. Female standards/demands go up as they get older.

So we agree. If you are satisfied with a predatory approach to get women, so be it. But for me, I would lose satisfaction from having to date a JB, or having to geomaxx for that matter, because it all relies on the women being naive and being lower in society. Feels like a cheat to me. I'd find getting a 23 year old stacy much more fulfilling than a jb stacy.

 

[SoundnVision]

Can't beat that teen ( 18+) pussy man.
Tight teen pussy for life

 

[SoundnVision]

nah ur wrong. JBs have simply much lower standards for men in general, not just looks but also more accepting of flaws and other things they don't like simply because they don't know any better and don't have any experience of what a man could be like.

This is water. Female standards/demands go up as they get older.

I'm their 20s they start wearing gymshark leggings and gigachad hunting

 

[MoggerGaston]

So we agree. If you are satisfied with a predatory approach to get women, so be it. But for me, I would lose satisfaction from having to date a JB, or having to geomaxx for that matter, because it all relies on the women being naive and being lower in society. Feels like a cheat to me. I'd find getting a 23 year old stacy much more fulfilling than a jb stacy.

'predatory approach'
doesnt mean anything here, what you are saying?~. You want the best for you and for her, together.

Don't like this use of language of you.

But for the rest: Live your life man, you do you.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I'm their 20s they start wearing gymshark leggings and gigachad hunting

Their standards of male physiques become the roiders in the gym.

'anyone else just isn't training hard enough, losers'

 

[SoundnVision]

Their standards of male physiques become the roiders in the gym.

'anyone else just isn't training hard enough, losers'

Why don't you look like that guy on the gymshark website babe ! You're in the gym all the time !
Meanwhile gymshark pic tall roided chad faced men with elite genetics to model for them.
Absolute honk honk clown cunt world

 

[MoggerGaston]

Why don't you look like that guy on the gymshark website babe ! You're in the gym all the time !
Meanwhile gymshark pic tall roided chad faced men with elite genetics to model for them.
Absolute honk honk clown cunt world

Women are used to seeing men on social-media using roids, filters, photoshop, frauding, make-up and everything else. Looking like chads.

I can't compete with their diseased-brain of what an attractive man should look like.

 

[UnderPressure]

MGTOW.

I could LTR a LTB/MTB my own age but it's such a shit risk/cost/benefit consideration that it would be the most retarded thing I could ever do.

There is no risk in marrying the love of your life, having beautiful kids, that will get you in your act together to actually be a good father. Nigga your parents probably fucked up somewhere thats why your on this forum. Why don't you want to bring a kid and correct all the mistakes that your parents did , and clean your bloodline from generational loneliness by being a good parent.

Be the parent that your parents weren't. Maybe you will find some meaning and treasure it instead of fucking around. I think when you walk into a store there is nothing that makes people more happier than seeing a happy young couple (who arent ethnic jfl) who have a kid in their shopping cart.

Create meaning in a world devoid of it and that is trying to destroy it everyday.

 

[MoggerGaston]

There is no risk in marrying the love of your life, having beautiful kids, that will get you in your act together to actually be a good father. Nigga your parents probably fucked up somewhere thats why your on this forum. Why don't you want to bring a kid and correct all the mistakes that your parents did , and clean your bloodline from generational loneliness by being a good parent.

Be the parent that your parents weren't. Maybe you will find some meaning and treasure it instead of fucking around. I think when you walk into a store there is nothing that makes people more happier than seeing a happy young couple (who arent ethnic jfl) who have a kid in their shopping cart.

Create meaning in a world devoid of it and that is trying to destroy it everyday.

What are you even talking about?
What love of my life?

I am a truecel ugly subhuman. Women despise me. I can't even get casual sex, let alone a girlfriend, let alone a wife/family.

There's nothing I can do, women consider me ugly disgusting filth. Therefore I can't breed.

Has nothing to do with 'geting my act together', whatsoever.

 

[UnderPressure]

What are you even talking about?
What love of my life?

I am a truecel ugly subhuman. Women despise me. I can't even get casual sex, let alone a girlfriend, let alone a wife/family.

There's nothing I can do, women consider me ugly disgusting filth. Therefore I can't breed.

Has nothing to do with 'geting my act together', whatsoever.

Oh nvm. Idk why I assume everyone with high rep is HTN mb bro

 

[MoggerGaston]

Oh nvm. Idk why I assume everyone with high rep is HTN mb bro

i mean if ur advice only applies to HTN+s then it's over for 80% of men already so yeah, just fucking lol man.

what the fuck is this shit.

I hate my life/body, just looking for ways to cope better than I am doing now I suppose and talking to my boys with similar struggles on this forum.

 

[UnderPressure]

i mean if ur advice only applies to HTN+s then it's over for 80% of men already so yeah, just fucking lol man.

what the fuck is this shit.

I hate my life/body, just looking for ways to cope better than I am doing now I suppose and talking to my boys with similar struggles on this forum.

eh idk bro, i need to straighten my act, and leave the high inhib low trust society that is Britain. I think even if ur MTN in a not too bad country like America or even in south and east europe, u will have such a good life.

if u ever considering roping atleast r0b to hardmax before you go out jfl u never know might work

 

[fukmylyf]

but they find you ugly

 

[truthhurts]

Oh nvm. Idk why I assume everyone with high rep is HTN mb bro

He is. Bro is a slave to his abused dog syndrome

 

[Aladin]

Can't beat that teen ( <18) pussy man.
Tight teen pussy for life

Agreed.

 

[fukmylyf]

im trolling, dont be sad. This sale got me feeling spooky

 

[MoggerGaston]

eh idk bro, i need to straighten my act, and leave the high inhib low trust society that is Britain. I think even if ur MTN in a not too bad country like America or even in south and east europe, u will have such a good life.

if u ever considering roping atleast r0b to hardmax before you go out jfl u never know might work

Yeah before roping you need to start doing some real low-inhib risky shit tbh, cuz u got nothing else to lose at that point anyways.

I don't think MTN is liveable nowadays, not even in America/EE/southeurope. Only if you have factors working in your favor like rich family, being tall MTN, etc.

Avg MTN normie is just over..

 

[thereallegend]

Good response.

Life is changing and not in good ways. Realistically I don't have the looks so I need lower my expectations.

Same with me bro. I can’t slay these LTBs like I used to man. I actually have to “date” them now. It hurts like a bitch to go backwards in life.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Same with me bro. I can’t slay these LTBs like I used to man. I actually have to “date” them now. It hurts like a bitch to go backwards in life.

I need to explore single sigma male life quality tbh.

impossible to date nowadays.

 

[b0ygamer]

'predatory approach'
doesnt mean anything here, what you are saying?~. You want the best for you and for her, together.

Don't like this use of language of you.

But for the rest: Live your life man, you do you.

“Predatory” in this sense means an unfair balance of power, but I do agree it’s not the best word because it’s usually tied to malicious intent.

Maybe hierarchical would be a better word there’s not many words to describe this

Regardless of the word used there’s still a lack of power on her end that allows you to be in her league

 

[Whatever]

Even JBs have these issues.
They would still fuck their celebrity crushes and choose chads that aren't you prior to meeting them. You would just be taking advantage of them being naive and young, hoping to get in before they are exposed to other men.

In all honesty this approach will work, but it wouldn't be because they are more "pure", it's because you compensate by being older. You would still be fucking the same rotten hole.

And all of those issues you listed with older women are because they aren't talking to chad. They are loyal to chad, they reassure chad, they constantly give gifts to chad, they only want chad. The problem isn't the roastie, its you, they are fully capable of being a good girlfriend. This is water not sure how you aren't aware of this. Chad treatment is the only type of love you should accept.

100% accurate. Just because she’s young and/or a virgin doesn’t mean that she’s some blank slate that you get to write all over, the media and social media beat you to it. Ipad Generation has made it so that there is basically no such thing as adolescence anymore, 13-14 is the new 18. Oxytocin, pair bonding, blah blah blah that shit has already been zapped by screen addiction, they don’t have functioning brain chemistry anymore. My mom and other people I know work in schools and the shit that they tell me, anyone fantasizing about an actual relationship with a JB needs to get with the times. Today’s JBs are all risk and no reward.

Looking for a foid who is open minded is exactly the right idea, especially for those of us who are non-NT. Obviously the mind closes with age but my experience has been that most foids (and guys too) were never open minded enough for me to begin with. For people who are it’s more like a permanent personality trait that they have. And it actually blossoms a little bit later in life, this is why I ascended in college, not high school. Finding the right people and girls who I clicked with took big time maneuvering and experimenting and a huge stroke of luck, I don’t see a way to make it to happen again.