I don't like the whole "incel" shit.

[Deleted member 4362]

It's really not that you're involuntarily celibate, often it's that you're a sexist idiot who doesn't know how to interact in any semblance of a healthy way with women. I have a really, really hard time accepting that word and everything that goes along with it. I don't think I'm the only one.

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Well isnt it my case?

The "Black Pilled" Incel community is fascinating and horrifying in the same way that you'd be fascinated and horrified by, say, ISIS. Like, you look at them and wonder "how did your tormented brain get this way?" At first, I felt some inkling of sympathy for some of the Incel guys because a lot of them will disclose that it's not really the inability to get laid that is the problem, it's the fact that no woman finds them valuable enough to ratify their worth with her love. But then they make themselves impossible to pity by being completely and utterly vile, contemptible, and violent. I remember visiting one of their forums so that I could understand them better, and when I tried to express some modicum of sympathy for one particular guy who wasn't violent or misogynistic I got instantly banned. "No sympathy allowed." Weird.

For most of them, I really do feel like their anger and depression doesn't come from just not getting laid, but a feeling that they lack purpose in their lives. "Getting a girlfriend" is just short hand for "a woman determined you were valuable enough to be your girlfriend." And so what do you do with that despondency and feelings of worthlessness? Sometimes rage feels better than profound depression.

What's perhaps not helpful is that there is no constructive place for these guys to land.

I'm not really sure what to do or feel about Incels, especially since they generally will even throw your sympathy back in your face.

 

[Br0sk1]

I speak to them like I do anyone else, it's just I've found they're (typically) insanely flaky when it comes to conversation (particularly on apps) and extremely fickle and unforgiving when it comes to doling out rejections and deciding when they're not interested any more.

I mean it's possible I'm a bad conversationalist on these dates I go on occasionally, but I simply speak in a very candid manner about things (while remaining polite). I suppose it's also possible that I talk too much about myself as well, but when they're not being talkative, I kinda have to find something to fill the void and I don't just want the conversations to turn into me simply interviewing them.

I don't have any major animus towards women, I just feel extremely frustrated at how easily they seem to lose romantic interest. However, I get that this is likely an obstacle I need to overcome however by finding a way to be more entertaining to them, making a better first impression, etc.

 

[prettyboislime]

Finally something based coming from you.