I don't think Hinduism is retarded at all

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Hard to prove a religion is illogical when it is vague and bendable; you instead have to invoke an experimental or useless clause, as you did, since you’re now effectively trying to prove that it cannot have truth value (whether that is something they believe in or not, I am unaware of) due to its utility.

Islam is not like that at all and is rather a very rigid doctrine that cannot be changed. Muslims slaughter each other simply because of their minute differences of ideal Caliph. Hinduism doesn’t have these problems to reconcile and the cases of such will likely be family, economically, or tribally motivated.

These sort of religions are very different to the Semitic ones, indeed.

Yes but that rigidity breeds continuity and trust within the RELGION.

There’s a reason why Protestantism is memed on by Christian’s and seen as gay and retarded the prot idiots took a 2k old year RELGION and decided to rewrite everything like fucking morons, they unironically are in the same boat as Hindus. True Christianity is eastern and like Muslims WE CHANGE NOTHING.

We have every philosophical base covered with no inconsistencies and incoherencies present. That’s why our belief is true and why others are false, even atheism is illogical because materialism literally cannot explain how an immaterial unchangable universal thing such as logic can even exist in the first place and why humans are bound to it regardless of culture time and place, it is epistemically incomplete making materialism and Gaytheism just as ridiculous as Hinduism and Buddhism

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes but that rigidity breeds continuity and trust within the RELGION.

There’s a reason why Protestantism is memed on by Christian’s and seen as gay and retarded the prot idiots took a 2k old year RELGION and decided to rewrite everything like fucking morons, they unironically are in the same boat as Hindus. True Christianity is eastern and like Muslims WE CHANGE NOTHING.

We have every philosophical base covered with no inconsistencies and incoherencies present. That’s why our belief is true and why others are false, even atheism is illogical because materialism literally cannot explain how an immaterial unchangable universal thing such as logic can even exist in the first place and why humans are bound to it regardless of culture time and place, it is epistemically incomplete making materialism and Gaytheism just as ridiculous as Hinduism and Buddhism

Hinduism isn’t trying to be a rigid truth-claim system like Islam or Christianity it’s more of a civilizational framework blending philosophy, anc introspection. Sure, it has contradictions and unverifiable metaphysics, but so do all religions when you dig deep enough. Just because it doesn’t hand you a neatly packaged answer doesn’t make it worthless some of its ideas, like neti neti or karma, are tools for exploring the self not dogma to enforce. Dismissing it all as "demon trolling" just shows you’ve missed the point entirely. @imontheloose

 

[NotAMogger]

Hindooism may be too absurd, I would rather be born into a Hindoo family than a Pisslam one. At least I would still have my foreskin intact.

 

[imontheloose]

Yes but that rigidity breeds continuity and trust within the RELGION.

There’s a reason why Protestantism is memed on by Christian’s and seen as gay and retarded the prot idiots took a 2k old year RELGION and decided to rewrite everything like fucking morons, they unironically are in the same boat as Hindus. True Christianity is eastern and like Muslims WE CHANGE NOTHING.

We have every philosophical base covered with no inconsistencies and incoherencies present. That’s why our belief is true and why others are false, even atheism is illogical because materialism literally cannot explain how an immaterial unchangable universal thing such as logic can even exist in the first place and why humans are bound to it regardless of culture time and place, it is epistemically incomplete making materialism and Gaytheism just as ridiculous as Hinduism and Buddhism

I’m not denying that rigidity within religion allows it to persist in its original form. I’m saying that Hinduism has similarly persisted for so long due to its lack thereof. Horseshoe may be applied to theology quite often.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You are a legend in your own mind.

Seriously, you're one of the only people on this forum who has a moral superiority complex, everyone else is normal. I honestly do commend you for being this confident in your own retardation

You don't have to keep going around trying to prove to other men how smart and right you are on everything, did your father ever validate you at a young age? Probably not, sorry about that, us WASPs (or cumskins as you like to repeatedly call us) don't have to worry about having a functional nuclear family

Also, you nonstop violate the 1st commandment

These ad hominem attacks won’t get you to answer what is ethics, what is truth and falsehood and finally what is logic. Once you answer these things and provide a grounding as to why they exist and work the way they do logically in your stupid Gaytheistic framework then I’ll show mercy until then YOU ARE my lesser in intellectual pursuits pertaining to philosophy as a whole. I don’t you even know what justified true belief is? I doubt you can even give an account for the preconditions for knowledge to even be possible

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I’m not denying that rigidity within religion allows it to persist in its original form. I’m saying that Hinduism has similarly persisted for so long due to its lack thereof. Horseshoe may be applied to theology quite often.

I agree and I commend it for that but once again it’s about the TRUTH. Hinduism isn’t the truth so regardless of its boons it’s all in vain

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I’m not denying that rigidity within religion allows it to persist in its original form. I’m saying that Hinduism has similarly persisted for so long due to its lack thereof. Horseshoe may be applied to theology quite often.

Survival doesn't equal truth by that logic, pop culture or astrology would be sacred too.

 

[imontheloose]

Hinduism isn’t trying to be a rigid truth-claim system like Islam or Christianity it’s more of a civilizational framework blending philosophy, anc introspection. Sure, it has contradictions and unverifiable metaphysics, but so do all religions when you dig deep enough. Just because it doesn’t hand you a neatly packaged answer doesn’t make it worthless some of its ideas, like neti neti or karma, are tools for exploring the self not dogma to enforce. Dismissing it all as "demon trolling" just shows you’ve missed the point entirely. @imontheloose

It’s a very drastic difference fundamentally. One is a cultural philosophy with great vary, the other claims to have truth-value in its original form. Discussions between the two are often chaotic.

 

[imontheloose]

Survival doesn't equal truth by that logic, pop culture or astrology would be sacred too.

Of course it doesn’t. Who said survival ever implies truth? You can persist for many reasons without having any truth value at all.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I agree and I commend it for that but once again it’s about the TRUTH. Hinduism isn’t the truth so regardless of its boons it’s all in vain

It might not give you "truth" in the Western sense, but it offers enduring questions and that's just as important. @imontheloose

 

[imontheloose]

I agree and I commend it for that but once again it’s about the TRUTH. Hinduism isn’t the truth so regardless of its boons it’s all in vain

Utility is something I don’t base philosophy upon at all. It’s deeply flawed as far as I see it emotively. As a rigidly orthodox Christian, you will invoke God instead of utilitarianism to justify utility here but not in all cases.

I don’t care whether a philosophy is in vain or has utility. I don’t assign truth value to untestable subjects; instead strictly objects.

Sorry for derailing.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

It might not give you "truth" in the Western sense, but it offers enduring questions and that's just as important. @imontheloose

It doesn’t give truth in ANY sense that’s the point.

Truth isn’t subjective it’s OBJECTIVE and there are preconditions to be met to arrive at those truth and one of them is consistency and following logical laws such as laws of non contradiction etc. that alone refutes “Hinduism” this so the point.

I like Buddhism more than most other faiths tbh even Islam but once again I can respect its impact in the positive (once again something Buddhism ironically cannot account for as there’s no being or thing to objectively ground ethics and value statements) to society of curryland but I’m not speaking about that im speaking about arriving at the truth


The only truth is the Lord Jesus Christ he is the way the truth and the life John 14:6

 

[imontheloose]

It might not give you "truth" in the Western sense, but it offers enduring questions and that's just as important. @imontheloose

There is no Western sense of truth. Truth is a testable object. Whether you believe that exists is a different discussion. All philosophies no matter how ludicrous or boring they are all offer somewhat a unique, intriguing discussion usually.

Besides that, objects don’t exist in religion. It is faith based and conviction being miscommunicated for truth is a grave blunder when it comes to trying to convince sceptics.

 

[Jatt]

As a Christian I find it interesting. Hinduism has a lot of super interesting ideas stuff like neti neti feels more like a mental workout or deep introspection than anything religious. You're not being told "believe this," but more like "strip away what you're not and see what's left."

There are different sects with completely different beliefs. Some people follow Vedic rituals, others are into philosophical schools like Vedanta or Yoga and many worship local village gods or tribal deities that aren't even mentioned in mainstream scriptures. Many people worship cows, others eat them.Yes there are many Hindus that eat beef. You can even completely reject all the mainstream hindu gods/teachings and maintain a seperate identity as Nastika in Hinduism too.

Kabir and Swami Vivekanda if you want to read about edgy and controversial figures. Kabir openly roasted muslims and hindus. He rejected temple rituals, caste, and scripture-worship. Called out Brahmins, Mullahs and even yogis. Swami Vivekanda attacked caste. Introduced science and rational thought and criticism in Hinduism

But yeah once you go deeper, a lot of it does lean into metaphysical claims you kind of have to just accept like "the self is Brahman" or "the soul reincarnates based on karma." There's no way to prove that stuff, and most of the time it's like "this is true because the Upanishads or Gita say so."

So if you're looking for a reason-only, evidence-based system, it does hit a wall eventual . Still, I think parts of Hindu philosophy and ideas can be applied exploring consciousness and identity without needing to buy into everything. Hinduism has got it's gems, but you gotta sift through a lot of "just take it on faith" stuff too.

sikhi mogs

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Buddhism is a better and cleaner version of Hinduism

 

[BadLuck7892]

I support Hindu nationalism