I finally felt the pain of being short

[Deleted member 16220]

I just sat here sleep deprived on phenibut thinking about what it would be like to be heightmogged constantly and finally understood the pain

It is like trying to believe it's an equal playing field then seeing some narcy dickhead strut around thinking he's better than you because he's born taller except women actually like it so he actually is better because of that.

It's extremely gay. I feel for short dudes so much that I don't even like it when people compliment me for being tall.

I truly do wish the world was more fair, a compliment on my height for me is just a painful sting and mental reminder that life is not fair and we are rewarded, and punished, for things outside our control.

This is normal but the only sin against ourselves actually committed was the removal of praising virtuous and self sacrificing men.

In the past you did not need to be tall if you were valued by the community for what you provided, that was always a man's role, and it worked well.

The west is collapsing, women will be single and childless in 2030 and men will either be single as well or moved overseas. The west isn't even a great place to live anymore. It's just like every other country only full of gay people, 3 trillion dollars in debt (which means constant inflation and high taxes), and the women all are whores and want to be men with feminism. I mention all this because it is what is fueling men's decline in mental health, and obsession with being taller indirectly. We are biologically programmed to reach a goal but also biologically programmed to want a community, but when you set up a community rules have to be put in place, so to have the goals met, the community around you, you need to obey the rules of the community, and it becomes laws or morals or values if there's a shared religion that is invented.

Without these values the individual can't integrate into the community, it becomes a free for all, and all that's left is chasing our biological goals. The main biological imperative is obviously sex. It's easy to see how hedonism comes out of a collapse of values, modern day hedonism for men involves porn and video games instead of sex with a wife and conquest and labor.

We have fallen into a rather pathetic state as a society, i wish with everything in me it was different, i am not in control to change the society, all I can do is leave.

I know exactly what's wrong with the world, i do not have the ability to change it, i can change MY world by walking away to a place more in touch with reality.

So can you.

 

[Deleted member 25056]

Let the west collapse and build a new place with like minded people.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Let the west collapse and build a new place with like minded people.

The future is going to be a fuck ton of Hapa people because modern women in america are not having children and all the men are going overseas to find traditional women, including Asia and Eastern Europe

 

[thecel]

Let the west collapse and build a new place with like minded people.

Keep coping buddy

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Keep coping buddy

That's cope America was built in an attempt to be based and separate from the tyranny of Britain. A revisal could happen yet again it would just take enough men suffering to say fuck this shit and bail out of society then the entire thing collapses.

 

[Deleted member 25056]

Keep coping buddy

What am I coping with? I'll still be rotting with music and vidya even if my house is getting shelled.

 

[green]

Where are you planning to move to?

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Where are you planning to move to?

SEA is foolproof for me if I have to. I'm half SEA so I know I'll do well there.

Eastern Europe is an option as well. I'm half white so that's an option too.

That's about it the rest of the world is infected with feminism.

 

[thecel]

That's cope America was built in an attempt to be based and separate from the tyranny of Britain. A revisal could happen yet again it would just take enough men suffering to say fuck this shit and bail out of society then the entire thing collapses.

Enough men suffering but not enough men who have a real cause.

A small % of the suffering men would be passionate enough to want to rebuild the West in a “based” and socially conservative way with strong moral values.

The rest of the suffering men (99%) don’t have a cause or an actual enemy to rise up against; they’d just be fighting against being undesirable. Which isn’t a winnable battle. Desirability can’t be forced.

 

[nandor]

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Enough men suffering but not enough men who have a real cause.

A small % of the suffering men would be passionate enough to want to rebuild the West in a “based” and socially conservative way with strong moral values.

The rest of the suffering men (99%) don’t have a cause or an actual enemy to rise up against; they’d just be fighting against being undesirable. Which isn’t a winnable battle. Desirability can’t be forced.

They're dropping out of being functional members of society AS A WHOLE.

You don't work if you can't get a girlfriend.

If you can't get a girlfriend you can't get a wife, meaning you can't have children.

If you can't have children you won't work hard for money and you probably get stuck just being forced to jerk off and have so much free time you just end up playing video games.

Men that don't create families are terrible citizens for a society. They don't put money into the economy, don't raise the next generation, they literally do absolutely nothing for the society. If enough men are useless the society itself becomes useless.

Men arent acting normal then rebelling because they're incel to women they're just dropping out of working and dating and quite literally everything because they're incel. Being incel literally ruins the entire economy if the average guy becomes incel. You can't have brutal hypergamy and have a massive "society" at the same time it's doomed to collapse.

 

[thecel]

What am I coping with? I'll still be rotting with music and vidya even if my house is getting shelled.

I assume that you’re like most .org members who care about themselves more than they care about future generations.

Let’s face it bro, you care about yourself a lot more than you care about where the next 10 generations of men are headed.

This is why the collapse of the West is a huge coping mechanism. If it happens, your life would just be shit. This would be the war generation; you’d probably die in battle. Only 10+ generations after the fall would there even be a chance that the rebuilt society is better than the status quo.

If you do care a lot about the future, then it may make sense to want society to fall and be restructured. But most people don’t care much about what happens on this planet after they die. It doesn’t make sense for people who care mainly about their own happiness, to want to sacrifice their happiness to MAYBE benefit the 10th future generation of men.

 

[thecel]

They're dropping out of being functional members of society AS A WHOLE.

You don't work if you can't get a girlfriend.

If you can't get a girlfriend you can't get a wife, meaning you can't have children.

If you can't have children you won't work hard for money and you probably get stuck just being forced to jerk off and have so much free time you just end up playing video games.

Men that don't create families are terrible citizens for a society. They don't put money into the economy, don't raise the next generation, they literally do absolutely nothing for the society. If enough men are useless the society itself becomes useless.

Men arent acting normal then rebelling because they're incel to women they're just dropping out of working and dating and quite literally everything because they're incel. Being incel literally ruins the entire economy if the average guy becomes incel. You can't have brutal hypergamy and have a massive "society" at the same time it's doomed to collapse.

Average guys aren’t incel. Only subhumans like me are incel.

 

[green]

SEA is foolproof for me if I have to. I'm half SEA so I know I'll do well there.

Eastern Europe is an option as well. I'm half white so that's an option too.

That's about it the rest of the world is infected with feminism.

Do you know another language already? I've considered it, but never seriously, I wouldn't feel that safe in my research to know best place to go and likely have to invest a lot of time into learning the language.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

I assume that you’re like most .org members who care about themselves more than they care about future generations.

Let’s face it bro, you care about yourself a lot more than you care about where the next 10 generations of men are headed.

This is why the collapse of the West is a huge coping mechanism. If it happens, your life would just be shit. This would be the war generation; you’d probably die in battle. Only 10+ generations after the fall would there even be a chance that the rebuilt society is better than the status quo.

If you do care a lot about the future, then it may make sense to want society to fall and be restructured. But most people don’t care much about what happens on this planet after they die. It doesn’t make sense for people who care mainly about their own happiness, to want to sacrifice their happiness to MAYBE benefit the 10th future generation of men.

No.

I care more about my own children that don't exist than myself. The reason is my PARENTS didn't care about me at all, ever. My dad sacrificed my childhood for his own enjoyment, and I never got to have a childhood, so i want to sacrifice my life for my child. I had an absolutely brutal childhood of pure torture and I know what i have to do.

I am not like 99.9% of people you meet. I am the product of a very, very weak man SEAmaxxing, none of my parents cared about me, my parents kicked me out at 18 and I had to join the military to avoid homelessness. I did not have a normal life and never have.

My life is so brutally painful that I WANT to sacrifice myself for the lives of others because that's the only way I can justify all the pain I went through. I've been through some truly horrific things. I went through SERE (survival, evasion, resistance, escape) school back when I was in the military and it was EASY compared to my childhood.

I look for meaning to the suffering and I've only ever been able to justify my pain by imagining my sacrifice goes to the benefit of others, like Jesus Christ, although I am an atheist I admire his mentality greatly.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Do you know another language already? I've considered it, but never seriously, I wouldn't feel that safe in my research to know best place to go and likely have to invest a lot of time into learning the language.

Doesn't matter they all speak English.

 

[Deleted member 25056]

I assume that you’re like most .org members who care about themselves more than they care about future generations.

Let’s face it bro, you care about yourself a lot more than you care about where the next 10 generations of men are headed.

This is why the collapse of the West is a huge coping mechanism. If it happens, your life would just be shit. This would be the war generation; you’d probably die in battle. Only 10+ generations after the fall would there even be a chance that the rebuilt society is better than the status quo.

If you do care a lot about the future, then it may make sense to want society to fall and be restructured. But most people don’t care much about what happens on this planet after they die. It doesn’t make sense for people who care mainly about their own happiness, to want to sacrifice their happiness to MAYBE benefit the 10th future generation of men.

Too tired to write up a good response but creating or living in a nation with shared values would contribute far more to my and many other people's personal happiness. Even if nothing really matters we should still give in to our innate biological desires. Not sure where you got the idea that I cared about muh future generations.

 

[thecel]

No.

I care more about my own children that don't exist than myself. The reason is my PARENTS didn't care about me at all, ever. My dad sacrificed my childhood for his own enjoyment, and I never got to have a childhood, so i want to sacrifice my life for my child. I had an absolutely brutal childhood of pure torture and I know what i have to do.

I am not like 99.9% of people you meet. I am the product of a very, very weak man SEAmaxxing, none of my parents cared about me, my parents kicked me out at 18 and I had to join the military to avoid homelessness. I did not have a normal life and never have.

My life is so brutally painful that I WANT to sacrifice myself for the lives of others because that's the only way I can justify all the pain I went through. I've been through some truly horrific things. I went through SERE (survival, evasion, resistance, escape) school back when I was in the military and it was EASY compared to my childhood.

I look for meaning to the suffering and I've only ever been able to justify my pain by imagining my sacrifice goes to the benefit of others, like Jesus Christ, although I am an atheist I admire his mentality greatly.

Good. You’re a major exception to the rule.

99.99999% of the incels coping with “muh soy West collapse and rebuild to make it based” won’t even contribute to such a cause. They’re just hoping and coping that society will get rebuilt as they rot.

 

[dakchuh]

>father was a beta SEAmaxxer
>the west has fallen
>i will SEAmax

????????

 

[thecel]

Too tired to write up a good response but creating or living in a nation with shared values would contribute far more to my and many other people's personal happiness. Even if nothing really matters we should still give in to our innate biological desires.

It’ll contribute to people’s happiness under all these conditions:

• they’re willing to contribute to the cause AND
• they’re confident that the cause will succeed

Most blackpillers will rot in their rooms while the city is burning down. And the 1st generation to live through the fall of the West won’t be confident at all that things will turn out the way they want. What if the rebuilt society is even more soy?

Not sure where you got the idea that I cared about muh future generations.

I said you don’t care. Most people in blackpill forums don’t care.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

>father was a beta SEAmaxxer
>the west has fallen
>i will SEAmax

????????

The crime isn't getting an Asian woman, it's being a shit father and having a shit mother.

My mother wasn't at all whatsoever fit to be a mother. She has zero feminine tendencies. She is extremely childlike and selfish. She literally would not shed a tear if I died right now. She doesn't even have the capacity to care about anyone but herself. She used my father for money but he's such a cuck he stayed with her because he's a total loser. He's not a man, and she's not a woman. I come from a broken household.

Being asian isn't the crime, it's being a failed man, that's the crime.

 

[rand anon]

The future is going to be a fuck ton of Hapa people because modern women in america are not having children and all the men are going overseas to find traditional women, including Asia and Eastern Europe

Ober

 

[dakchuh]

The crime isn't getting an Asian woman, it's being a shit father and having a shit mother.

My mother wasn't at all whatsoever fit to be a mother. She has zero feminine tendencies. She is extremely childlike and selfish. She literally would not shed a tear if I died right now. She doesn't even have the capacity to care about anyone but herself. She used my father for money but he's such a cuck he stayed with her because he's a total loser. He's not a man, and she's not a woman. I come from a broken household.

Being asian isn't the crime, it's being a failed man, that's the crime.

you dont think ur father in his time also thought the west has fallen and western women are whores and he'll get a trad asian wife? like you dont think you'll fall for the same tricks your mom pulled onyour dad? these golddiggers got their targets dialed in

 

[dakchuh]

i have no idea how wytes can even be attracted to SEA women. so many of them legit look like apes

 

[80iq]

i wan t to rape

 

[chadcel;]

Man I think you need to do something cos just reading your posts for a few days you sound mentally fucked atm. Like some guys on here are doomers but are grinding to improve, some just want to LDAR but you just sound unstable.

I am 5'10 and trust me man people don't think how you described, it doesn't make me seethe if someone is taller or make happy if someone is shorter. Sure if someone is extremely short/tall Ill notice and be like damn thats a rare size for a person or just compare size out of interest for how another human can look.

There are more things that make someone a man than height, do you think Hitler was bothered by the fact he was 5'9, or better yet Goebbels was a sick person and was really short, did that stop him? No he worked hard and did his best at whatever he could - that's what a man does. There's many other examples too, Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, Zelensky.

 

[Dr. Bludy]

Man I think you need to do something cos just reading your posts for a few days you sound mentally fucked atm. Like some guys on here are doomers but are grinding to improve, some just want to LDAR but you just sound unstable.

I am 5'10 and trust me man people don't think how you described, it doesn't make me seethe if someone is taller or make happy if someone is shorter. Sure if someone is extremely short/tall Ill notice and be like damn thats a rare size for a person or just compare size out of interest for how another human can look.

There are more things that make someone a man than height, do you think Hitler was bothered by the fact he was 5'9, or better yet Goebbels was a sick person and was really short, did that stop him? No he worked hard and did his best at whatever he could - that's what a man does. There's many other examples too, Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, Zelensky.

Zelensky

 

[chadcel;]

Zelensky

he is one of the most famous men in the world, maybe the most masculine man in the world right now, leader of men etc. That makes you a real man (not like a 16yo on tiktok with curtains) and is sexually appealing imo, do you really a woman would look at him and say no he is not attractive man

 

[Dr. Bludy]

he is one of the most famous men in the world, maybe the most masculine man in the world right now, leader of men etc. That makes you a real man (not like a 16yo on tiktok with curtains) and is sexually appealing imo, do you really a woman would look at him and say no he is not attractive man

Joined May 4, 2023

 

[chadcel;]

Joined May 4, 2023

Joined Dec 9, 2022

 

[Deleted member 16220]

you dont think ur father in his time also thought the west has fallen and western women are whores and he'll get a trad asian wife? like you dont think you'll fall for the same tricks your mom pulled onyour dad? these golddiggers got their targets dialed in

My father wasn't anything like me. Whatsoever.

My mother was never feminine or had any female traits at all. My dad was just a simp who literally married a mentally ill Asian woman who used him for money and he sees nothing wrong with this because he's a coward.

 

[Interested]

do you think Hitler was bothered by the fact he was 5'9, or better yet Goebbels was a sick person and was really short, did that stop him? No he worked hard and did his best at whatever he could - that's what a man does. There's many other examples too, Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, Zelensky.

 

[Zures]

This is normal but the only sin against ourselves actually committed was the removal of praising virtuous and self sacrificing men.

In the past you did not need to be tall if you were valued by the community for what you provided, that was always a man's role, and it worked well.

very well put man

maybe thats the exact reason why we are born
our dads, grandfathers, great grandfathers etc most likely werent 6PSL chads, they were normies who could provide for the woman they married with, give her both physical and financial security and in exchange she would have kids with him

now the State gives women all of that and now they only focus on our genes... fucking over dude

also maybe there was some platonic love (true love) going on sometimes at that time too, cuz feminism wasn't a thing back then but idk about that tho. nowadays sub-7s are only seem as providers and there's probably no real love going on

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Even if you understood our pain, you did not FEEL OUR PAIN!

 

[horizontallytall]

Bro u are few sane users left here seriously

 

[horizontallytall]

Bro u are few sane users left here seriously

 

[horizontallytall]

Whats ur height?

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Mirin self awareness

but that’s life