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like did you actually believe you can just pull up some goofy ass pickup line in a club and get your dick wet

that's peak male autism tbh
 
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like did you actually believe you can just pull up some goofy ass pickup line in a club and get your dick wet

that's peak male autism tbh
It's also weird that nowadays, most people, even in the community, accept that it's basically all about looks and that your 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. It Can help you bang girls faster and make it less likely that you'll completely fuck it up with a girl who thinks you're hot etc - HOWEVER, the communities are still going strong with people asking for advice each day etc. And naturally the 'advice' is so common sense ('make a move on her') that it's just redundant! How are these communities still going strong now that basically everyone seems to have accepted the redpill. What advice do they think they're gonna get lol. 'Seduction' isn't possible. It's a numbers game with results closely linked to how physically attractive you are

Having said that, reading about 'pua' and game back in the day was the best thing i ever done, because it got me to approach loads of girls, which resulted in me getting laid way more than I would have without it. And some of them girls were way out of my league (fairly hot and way younger than me). And approaching so much meant I was able to find these unicorns (there are probably some hot girls out there who would bang you and it might surprise you, but it takes lots of trying to find them!)
 
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ps - if you want a real laugh, go to skilledseducer forum
They're basically the only forum left pushing the oldschool pirinciples (trying to trick gullible people into buying their pua theory/coaching etc)

Posters teevster and bacchus are the funniest and literally claim to be able to bang ANY girl they want. They literally claim 'point and click' success rate lmao. If a girl isn't attracted to them, they just use 'nlp'and their special 'verbals' and stuff to 'influence' her into wanting to bang them hahaha. And some people actually believe them!

example of what they advocate to say too a girl in a bar:

''“Hi! I saw you dancing in there, you seem like a person who truly enjoys releasing herself and letting go and just having a good time, but now you feel like quieting down for a smoke and being social.”

she replies

''What do you do for fun?''

she replies 'dancing'

''I know what you mean... I'm not much of a dancer, but when I'm working on a portrait, there's a moment where I'm completely immersed in the moment. Time flies by and every bone in my body is focused on the canvas. A liberating feeling where you feel connected to the world. Like a fire inside me that can't be put out''

She replies

''Most people around the world. . . and lots of people in clubs are just so boring, dull and unenthusiastic. It's so much better to find yourself with these people who have passion, sensuality and enthusiasm for life''



etc etc etc

You get the idea lol. This seems to be their marketing tool. Whereas it was 'negs' and stuff in the mysterymethod day, these dudes market some gay sounded flowery language which they claim will give you the same results as Justin Beiber
 
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ps - if you want a real laugh, go to skilledseducer forum
They're basically the only forum left pushing the oldschool pirinciples (trying to trick gullible people with their pua theory)

Posters teevster and bacchus are the funniest and literally claim to be able to bang ANY girl they want. They literally claim 'point and click' success rate lmao. If a girl isn't attracted to them, they just use 'nlp'and their special 'verbals' and stuff to 'influence' her into wanting to bang them hahaha. And some people actually believe them!

example of what they advocate to say too a girl in a bar:

''“Hi! I saw you dancing in there, you seem like a person who truly enjoys releasing herself and letting go and just having a good time, but now you feel like quieting down for a smoke and being social.”

she replies

''What do you do for fun?''

she replies 'dancing'

''I know what you mean... I'm not much of a dancer, but when I'm working on a portrait, there's a moment where I'm completely immersed in the moment. Time flies by and every bone in my body is focused on the canvas. A liberating feeling where you feel connected to the world''

She replies

''Most people around the world. . . and lots of people in clubs are just so boring, dull and unenthusiastic. It's so much better to find yourself with these people who have passion, sensuality and enthusiasm for life''



etc etc etc

You get the idea lol. This seems to be their marketing tool. Whereas it was 'negs' and stuff in the mysterymethod day, these dudes market some gay sounded flowery language which they claim will give you the same results as Justin Beiber
and then you have incels approaching foids in a bar and stumbling over their words trying to memorize this goofy crap and they get one word answers

edit: that place seems really dead though
 
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Because PUA used to be decent advice

Talking to women in 2000-2010 was far far different than 2016 and beyond
 
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Because PUA used to be decent advice

Talking to women in 2000-2010 was far far different than 2016 and beyond
I do believe things got far worse, but retarded ass cold approaches using goofy lines never worked (unless you look good, but then it won't matter what you say)
 
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PUA works. And there's shit much in PUA than just "goofy pickup lines".

The concept of a shittest, IOI, monkey branching, oestrus, rapport, anti-slut defence etc.

Lookism is about physique, but PUA is about psychology.
 
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PUA works. And there's shit much in PUA than just "goofy pickup lines".

The concept of a shittest, IOI, monkey branching, oestrus, rapport, anti-slut defence etc.

Lookism is about physique, but PUA is about psychology.
but that's not 'PUA', I'd just call it psychology
 
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Talking to women in 2000-2010 was far far different than 2016 and beyond
elaborate. I actually have a lot of practical experience (not going back quite that far) so am interested. Sometimes I even wonder if some of the old school stuff actually DID work more than I realise (back in the day) but i'm not smart enough to work out how and exactly why social changes like that happen. People always say 'human nature doesn't change' but I still think the effects of the internet and many other things won't really be properly understood for another 100 years lol
 
and then you have incels approaching foids in a bar and stumbling over their words trying to memorize this goofy crap and they get one word answers

edit: that place seems really dead though
Indeed, your face can change entire lines. Imagine a recessed incel trying to flirt vs some masc chad.
Also never try to help a kid if ur ugly, if some kid is lost in the mall fucking ignore him unless you are attractive so you don't have child offender charges on you :lul: simple shit all changed by face
 
elaborate. I actually have a lot of practical experience (not going back quite that far) so am interested. Sometimes I even wonder if some of the old school stuff actually DID work more than I realise (back in the day) but i'm not smart enough to work out how and exactly why social changes like that happen. People always say 'human nature doesn't change' but I still think the effects of the internet and many other things won't really be properly understood for another 100 years lol
imo people generally became less social and more closed off in everyday life and foids got more entitled
 
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but that's not 'PUA', I'd just call it psychology

That's PUA, and the dudes who discovered that knowledge self identified as PUAs. Unlike nominal psychologists, who are still mentally stuck at the advice that problems with foids can be solved by better communication.
 
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The concept of a shittest, IOI, monkey branching, oestrus, rapport, anti-slut defence etc.
in practical terms lots of the PUA stuff is actually just flirting. If you break down pushpull, negs, teasing etc etc, it's actually just flirting. And flirting is great, BUT it doesn't MAKE girl attracted to you. If she thinks you're ugly, flirting is the last thing she wants lol.

And things like passing shit tests and anti slut defence and lmr etc and all that stuff are great too, but it goes back to what I was saying earlier. It all comes with the pre-requisiste that she is attracted to you. The most important part. And it's the part that's out of your control

Not many here have read as much PUA literature and made as many approaches as me. I've tested all this shit, and tonnes of rejections and many lays. Game is just the icing on the cake. Something to help you bang a girl (not screw up) who thinks you're good looking, basically
 
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It's also weird that nowadays, most people, even in the community, accept that it's basically all about looks and that your 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. It Can help you bang girls faster and make it less likely that you'll completely fuck it up with a girl who thinks you're hot etc
That's really how I see NT and game. It's the cherry on top that will help you pull more, but you need looks first and foremost, no amount of game can save a 5'6 curry from getting charged for sexual harassment when he tries to do this shit.
Nt matters but far less than looks.
 
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That's PUA, and the dudes who discovered that knowledge self identified as PUAs. Unlike nominal psychologists, who are still mentally stuck at the advice that problems with foids can be solved by better communication.
but all that stuff mostly matters for LTRs, if you're trying to 'pick up' women you just have to look good and not act too autistic. that's really it.

jfl @ thinking a book written by some bald pua cuck will reveal some sort of magic tricks for you
 
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And things like passing shit tests and anti slut defence and lmr etc and all that stuff are great too, but it goes back to what I was saying earlier. It all comes with the pre-requisiste that she is attracted to you. The most important part. And it's the part that's out of your control

Discovering which foids are attracted to you is a bona fide PUA. And approaching a foid to give her a chance to be attracted to you is a foundation stone of PUA.

Not many here have read as much PUA literature and made as many approaches as me. I've tested all this shit, and tonnes of rejections and many lays. Game is just the icing on the cake. Something to help you bang a girl (not screw up) who thinks you're good looking, basically

Elab.
 
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. Something to help you bang a girl (not screw up) who thinks you're good looking, basically
This.

Looks impact how she receives ur flirting, game and NT. Without a looks base it's useless.
5'6 Curry could be the most confident smoothest talker ever but women won't be sexually attracted to him so the flirting won't be received well nor will anything he says.

Amnesia survived an NT mog and looked like an aspie yet EVERY single person respected him cus he is chad, imagine if he was ugly.
 
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Discovering which foids are attracted to you is a bona fide PUA.
maybe modern PUA. But back in the mysterymethod days, they would consider it irrelevant. He'd claim to MAKE her attracted using his negs and DHV stories lol

Not sure i can elaborate much more? I'm saying no tips and tricks, no negs or self amusement or charisma or nlp verbals or anything else is going to force sexual attraction in a girl.

I'm saying that 'game' isn't 'seduction' or conversion. It's a game of screening - trying your luck and having a few very basic game ideas to make it less likely that you'll completely fuck it up (eg.g complete failure to escalate, failing every shit test, etc etc)
 
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It really was a thing. My Dad still believes it. He thought he slayed back in the day ‘cause he was charming and smooth and funny. Not ‘cause he had a chiseled jaw.
 
That's really how I see NT and game. It's the cherry on top that will help you pull more, but you need looks first and foremost, no amount of game can save a 5'6 curry from getting charged for sexual harassment when he tries to do this shit.
Nt matters but far less than looks.
talking to a foid is not really illegal.
 
People will always believe what they want to believe and wish was true
 
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ps - if you want a real laugh, go to skilledseducer forum
They're basically the only forum left pushing the oldschool pirinciples (trying to trick gullible people into buying their pua theory/coaching etc)

Posters teevster and bacchus are the funniest and literally claim to be able to bang ANY girl they want. They literally claim 'point and click' success rate lmao. If a girl isn't attracted to them, they just use 'nlp'and their special 'verbals' and stuff to 'influence' her into wanting to bang them hahaha. And some people actually believe them!

example of what they advocate to say too a girl in a bar:

''“Hi! I saw you dancing in there, you seem like a person who truly enjoys releasing herself and letting go and just having a good time, but now you feel like quieting down for a smoke and being social.”

she replies

''What do you do for fun?''

she replies 'dancing'

''I know what you mean... I'm not much of a dancer, but when I'm working on a portrait, there's a moment where I'm completely immersed in the moment. Time flies by and every bone in my body is focused on the canvas. A liberating feeling where you feel connected to the world. Like a fire inside me that can't be put out''

She replies

''Most people around the world. . . and lots of people in clubs are just so boring, dull and unenthusiastic. It's so much better to find yourself with these people who have passion, sensuality and enthusiasm for life''



etc etc etc

You get the idea lol. This seems to be their marketing tool. Whereas it was 'negs' and stuff in the mysterymethod day, these dudes market some gay sounded flowery language which they claim will give you the same results as Justin Beiber
me and the boys heading out on a point and click adventure
Giphy 2
 
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Ngl especially when most the people did it were looksminned asf, autistic and none Nt with 0 friends

Fr imagine someone that wasn't Nt at all and ugly with no freidns came up to u what do u actually have to offer to a women?

U payed 1000s of dollars for a few words? :p:p:lul:
 
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Just don't discuss about pua with zoomers who haven't experienced the world without social media.
 
PUA is basically a how to flirt for high tier normies and a scam for all sub5 men
 
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like did you actually believe you can just pull up some goofy ass pickup line in a club and get your dick wet

that's peak male autism tbh
Seduction works. That's a little different though.
 
PUA is basically a how to flirt for high tier normies and a scam for all sub5 men
True that.

LOL @ the PUA advice for ugly men: "just keep harassing women longer,she will change her mind about you"
make it past the first 5 seconds
make it past the 30 second mark
make it past the 1 minute mark,


 
pick up works if you are at least average
 
It's also weird that nowadays, most people, even in the community, accept that it's basically all about looks and that your 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. It Can help you bang girls faster and make it less likely that you'll completely fuck it up with a girl who thinks you're hot etc - HOWEVER, the communities are still going strong with people asking for advice each day etc. And naturally the 'advice' is so common sense ('make a move on her') that it's just redundant! How are these communities still going strong now that basically everyone seems to have accepted the redpill. What advice do they think they're gonna get lol. 'Seduction' isn't possible. It's a numbers game with results closely linked to how physically attractive you are

Having said that, reading about 'pua' and game back in the day was the best thing i ever done, because it got me to approach loads of girls, which resulted in me getting laid way more than I would have without it. And some of them girls were way out of my league (fairly hot and way younger than me). And approaching so much meant I was able to find these unicorns (there are probably some hot girls out there who would bang you and it might surprise you, but it takes lots of trying to find them!)
totally lost alienated (understandably) young men want an e-dad to simulate the things they think their fathers ought to have given them

lots of grifters out there willing to play the part for attentions/money/status/etc

same thing that made jordan peterson so popular

Also its super obvious if you arent completely castrated/braindead that modern women are giga trash and the pua types are some of the closest people to mainstream exposure who are willing to talk about it at all. The spoonful of truth to chase down the poison pill type deal.
 
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You need to watch this lol (ex RSD instructor)

This dude is streaming his approaches and he's LIVE right now



He's in set with some girl claiming to be 23. He's already lieing to her about being in the marines and how he teaches hand to hand combat!! lmao

ALso, he done an infield a few weeks ago where he pulled hte fattest, ugliest black lady you can imagine. I cracked up. She was about 350 lbs
 
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You need to watch this lol (ex RSD instructor)

This dude is streaming his approaches and he's LIVE right now



He's in set with some girl claiming to be 23. He's already lieing to her about being in the marines and how he teaches hand to hand combat!! lmao

ALso, he done an infield a few weeks ago where he pulled hte fattest, ugliest black lady you can imagine. I cracked up. She was about 350 lbs

Pathetic thbh. Imagine livestreaming your approaches.
 
Because you see couples who aren't always looksmatched and the only explanation is that the guy had 'game'.
 
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That's really how I see NT and game. It's the cherry on top that will help you pull more, but you need looks first and foremost, no amount of game can save a 5'6 curry from getting charged for sexual harassment when he tries to do this shit.
Nt matters but far less than looks.
Over 5'6 curry :feelswhy:
 
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in practical terms lots of the PUA stuff is actually just flirting. If you break down pushpull, negs, teasing etc etc, it's actually just flirting. And flirting is great, BUT it doesn't MAKE girl attracted to you. If she thinks you're ugly, flirting is the last thing she wants lol.

And things like passing shit tests and anti slut defence and lmr etc and all that stuff are great too, but it goes back to what I was saying earlier. It all comes with the pre-requisiste that she is attracted to you. The most important part. And it's the part that's out of your control

Not many here have read as much PUA literature and made as many approaches as me. I've tested all this shit, and tonnes of rejections and many lays. Game is just the icing on the cake. Something to help you bang a girl (not screw up) who thinks you're good looking, basically
How to escale tho?
For example I go to a date talk about some shit
So far so good
But when the talk is non sexual
And you are in public
How to edcslte from there to a kiss?
 
You need to watch this lol (ex RSD instructor)

This dude is streaming his approaches and he's LIVE right now



He's in set with some girl claiming to be 23. He's already lieing to her about being in the marines and how he teaches hand to hand combat!! lmao

ALso, he done an infield a few weeks ago where he pulled hte fattest, ugliest black lady you can imagine. I cracked up. She was about 350 lbs

Why the fuck do people find enjoyment in doing this? It just seems so tiring if you have to put in that much effort. Chad doesn't put in effort and Stacy's love him for it.
 
Pua is just an ancient superstition in 2021
 
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How to escale tho?
For example I go to a date talk about some shit
So far so good
But when the talk is non sexual
And you are in public
How to edcslte from there to a kiss?
So i've basically never had a date in my whole life. Nearly all of my lays have come from cold approaching girls at night and then taking them home so i'm not an expert on dates (since you mentioned a date)

However, if she's on a date with you she obviously finds you somewhat attractive. And you've been keeping a convo going and being normal etc. You are best to start flirting a tiny bit and there's a million ways of doing it. You don't need to overthink it. You can literally just look at her when it goes quiet and kind of smirk, and she'll be like 'What??'' and you can just tell her she's kind of cute. Whatever. You can also slowly increase touch throughout the interaction to build up to the kiss.

Another way is to simply change the subject about something remotely sexual (kind of guys she likes etc and that can move onto very sexual talk in the right environment)

Having said that, you'd also be surprised about how non smooth you can get away with being. I've succeeded before (once I could tell a girl was into me) by literally just pulling her in for a kiss without any of that stuff above being in place. Just at the bar talking, I could sense that she's into me we're standing close, and I look at her and just kiss her. I remember one girl literally telling me ''That was hot. The way you just went for it'' or something like that
 
It's also weird that nowadays, most people, even in the community, accept that it's basically all about looks and that your 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. It Can help you bang girls faster and make it less likely that you'll completely fuck it up with a girl who thinks you're hot etc - HOWEVER, the communities are still going strong with people asking for advice each day etc. And naturally the 'advice' is so common sense ('make a move on her') that it's just redundant! How are these communities still going strong now that basically everyone seems to have accepted the redpill. What advice do they think they're gonna get lol. 'Seduction' isn't possible. It's a numbers game with results closely linked to how physically attractive you are

Having said that, reading about 'pua' and game back in the day was the best thing i ever done, because it got me to approach loads of girls, which resulted in me getting laid way more than I would have without it. And some of them girls were way out of my league (fairly hot and way younger than me). And approaching so much meant I was able to find these unicorns (there are probably some hot girls out there who would bang you and it might surprise you, but it takes lots of trying to find them!)
A good written response. The shift in PUA highlights the change that took place in society. Remember that a lot of the PUA stuff began in the 2000s. It was a time before the creation of the smartphone and tinder. “Woke” culture was not a thing. If a man wanted to meet a girl back then he really only had social circle. PUA was the only way to meet a huge amounts of girls.

Now obviously the introduction of the smartphone ruined things. If you think about it the majority of critics and PUA deniers started popping up during the 2010s when social media started to take off. “Woke” culture was becoming a thing too.

Modern PUA imo is a joke. It seems so retarded. A cheesy pickup line won’t give you an edge over Chad. If you look at tinder even most Chads have “game”. Coming up with clever jokes and pickup lines. Being an ugly man with “game” won’t even give you an edge.
 
If you think about it the majority of critics and PUA deniers started popping up during the 2010s when social media started to take off
It's true.
Some people seem so convinced by it (guys who were in the game pre-smart phone) that I think 'Yeah, but surely girls were still girls? Like, just like a neg and a cold read and a dhv story isn't gonna make some insta thot wanna suck your dick, it wouldn't have worked on some hot girl back then too! If only!!''

But the way some of these guys speaks almost makes me think girls really were different back then and didn't care about looks and relaly DID care about 'game' and 'charisma' over everything else lol. LIke, I can't in seriousness believe that, but that's how it feels when I read the conviction from some of these oldschool PUA dudes

Like I don't think that the smartphone and culture stopped the PUA's tricks working. They surely never worked. I guess it's more that it's just changed the landscape in terms of competition and social norms and stuff
 
It's true.
Some people seem so convinced by it (guys who were in the game pre-smart phone) that I think 'Yeah, but surely girls were still girls? Like, just like a neg and a cold read and a dhv story isn't gonna make some insta thot wanna suck your dick, it wouldn't have worked on some hot girl back then too! If only!!''

But the way some of these guys speaks almost makes me think girls really were different back then and didn't care about looks and relaly DID care about 'game' and 'charisma' over everything else lol. LIke, I can't in seriousness believe that, but that's how it feels when I read the conviction from some of these oldschool PUA dudes

Like I don't think that the smartphone and culture stopped the PUA's tricks working. They surely never worked. I guess it's more that it's just changed the landscape in terms of competition and social norms and stuff
I get what you mean. I too assume female nature is constant. If it does not work now then it shouldn’t have worked back then nor should it work in the future.

but what if I was wrong? If a solar flare were to hit the earth and take down with it the functionality of smartphones. A world without phones. How would such a world affect the dating scene? A women will only have access to the men in her immediate circle. The average male will too be constraint by this rule unless they practice PUA. With PUA they could expand past their social circle into thousands of girls.

Men can never compete in the modern arena with a women that has a virtually unlimited supply of men. Take away the smartphone and the playing field might finally even.
 
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fairly hot Russian Girl:

 
If you even consider PUA it never began
 
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Looks don't matter, boyos. Just learn mysterymethod!

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