I fucking hate sunscreen

[Edgar]

Can I get away with not using sunscreen if I wear a cap? I am on 60mg daily Accutane. I won't be out in the sun for a long time and will try to walk in the shadows as much as possible

 

[Edgar]

@Hopelessmofoker @Mongrelcel @ItsNotADream

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Just put a sunscreen jfl, you don't want to fuck up your skin even more

 

[Edgar]

Just put a sunscreen jfl, you don't want to fuck up your skin even more

It is goopy as hell

 

[.👽.]

no u cant get away. buy a chemical sunscreen then, it won't feel greasy/oily

 

[Mongrelcel]

no, you should be using sunscreen even inside your house

 

[BrickTop]

Sunscreen is going to make u ghey

 

[Deleted member 7044]

why not? its wet, sticky and white and feels good

 

[Deleted member 1476]

sunscreen is a con

 

[Edgar]

sunscreen is a con

how

 

[Deleted member 1476]

how

you have to use loads for adequate protection AND reapply throughout the day, it stinks and is gross on the skin, better to just stay out of midday sun and cover up

 

[Edgar]

you have to use loads for adequate protection AND reapply throughout the day, it stinks and is gross on the skin, better to just stay out of midday sun and cover up

how to cover up? I wear a cap

 

[Deleted member 1476]

how to cover up? I wear a cap

cap or bucket hat, sunglasses

 

[jesuischriste]

Can I get away with not using sunscreen if I wear a cap? I am on 60mg daily Accutane. I won't be out in the sun for a long time and will try to walk in the shadows as much as possible

i use a stick version bcos i hate liquid sunscreen not sure how well it works tho

Mineral Sunscreen Stick for On-the-Go Protection | CeraVe

Mineral Sunscreen Stick SPF 50 with zinc oxide and titanium dioxide provides broad spectrum UVA/UVB protection plus essential ceramides and a clear finish.

www.cerave.com

 

[sensen]

Can I get away with not using sunscreen if I wear a cap? I am on 60mg daily Accutane. I won't be out in the sun for a long time and will try to walk in the shadows as much as possible

Don't use sunscreen bruh. Just put on a cap and stop overthinking. Sun is good on short doses. Fuck anyone who says different.

 

[kalefartbomb]

Sunscreen is useless. Expose your skin more frequently to short amounts of sunshine and you will be less likely to burn and also healthier. This idea that the sun causes ageing and cancer is probably the most idiotic belief on this website. Imagine, hundreds of incels hiding in their basements all summer slathering on spf50 every day thinking it will make them chad.

 

[Edgar]

i use a stick version bcos i hate liquid sunscreen not sure how well it works tho

Mineral Sunscreen Stick for On-the-Go Protection | CeraVe

Mineral Sunscreen Stick SPF 50 with zinc oxide and titanium dioxide provides broad spectrum UVA/UVB protection plus essential ceramides and a clear finish.

www.cerave.com

Stick fucked me up

 

[Timelessbrah]

Sunscreen is useless. Expose your skin more frequently to short amounts of sunshine and you will be less likely to burn and also healthier. This idea that the sun causes ageing and cancer is probably the most idiotic belief on this website. Imagine, hundreds of incels hiding in their basements all summer slathering on spf50 every day thinking it will make them chad.

Unironically I wear sunscreen everyday and I look better than most young people who smoke and don't protect their skin.

 

[Edgar]

Don't use sunscreen bruh. Just put on a cap and stop overthinking. Sun is good on short doses. Fuck anyone who says different.

Yeah it is not like I am tanning jfk. I don't think I have ever gotten sunburned even once tbh

 

[Edgar]

Unironically I wear sunscreen everyday and I look better than most young people who smoke and don't protect their skin.

What kinda sunscreen do you use bra

 

[Deleted member 643]

Sunscreen is useless. Expose your skin more frequently to short amounts of sunshine and you will be less likely to burn and also healthier. This idea that the sun causes ageing and cancer is probably the most idiotic belief on this website. Imagine, hundreds of incels hiding in their basements all summer slathering on spf50 every day thinking it will make them chad.

You're a fucking idiot. There's literally mountains of peer-reviewed evidence demonstrating that exposure to ultraviolet radiation from the sun causes aging and cancer. Nobody thinks that applying sunscreen will make them Chad, either.

 

[Timelessbrah]

What kinda sunscreen do you use bra

This is the one I use the most because it's transparent and its 50+ SPF . There's another one similar to this but the color is red because it contains base like the makeup to women and its oil based, so I wouldn't recommend it, only the one in the image.

The Neutrogena Age Shield Face 110 + PSF is the best one on the market I think and its non oil based.

 

[Deleted member 643]

This is the one I use the most because it's transparent and its 50+ SPF . There's another one similar to this but the color is red because it contains base like the makeup to women and its oil based, so I wouldn't recommend it, only the one in the image.
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The Neutrogena Age Shield Face 110 + PSF is the best one on the market I think and its non oil based.

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1) SPF only measures protection from UVB rays. UVA rays are the cause of aging.
2) Most American sunscreen SPF labels are extremely unreliable. Sunscreens labeled 50 SPF generally have an actual SPF of around 20.
3) Anything labeled over 50 SPF in the USA is almost certainly a lie or misleading marketing.

 

[Edgar]

1) SPF only measures protection from UVB rays. UVA rays are the cause of aging.
2) Most American sunscreen SPF labels are extremely unreliable. Sunscreens labeled 50 SPF generally have an actual SPF of around 20.
3) Anything labeled over 50 SPF in the USA is almost certainly a lie or misleading marketing.

How do you protect from uva rays. My sunscreen says uvb+uva protection on it

 

[Deleted member 643]

How do you protect from uva rays. My sunscreen says uvb+uva protection on it

1) Avoid the sunlight from 10 AM to 5 PM. This should actually be your primary strategy.
2) Wear a wide-brimmed hat and sunglasses if you must go outside.
3) If you must go outside, also wear a broad spectrum sunscreen; it should have either 3% avobenzone or - preferably - at least 15% zinc oxide. Re-apply at least every two hours.

 

[Edgar]

1) Avoid the sunlight from 10 AM to 5 PM. This should actually be your primary strategy.
2) Wear a wide-brimmed hat and sunglasses if you must go outside.
3) If you must go outside, also wear a broad spectrum sunscreen; it should have either 3% avobenzone or - preferably - at least 15% zinc oxide. Re-apply at least every two hours.

Too much work bro

 

[Timelessbrah]

1) SPF only measures protection from UVB rays. UVA rays are the cause of aging.
2) Most American sunscreen SPF labels are extremely unreliable. Sunscreens labeled 50 SPF generally have an actual SPF of around 20.
3) Anything labeled over 50 SPF in the USA is almost certainly a lie or misleading marketing.

Nigga, what do you want me to say? Saw this 2 seconds after googling sunscreen.

If you aren't sure of anyhting, then find some trustworthy brands.

 

[nastynas]

sunscreen slander will not be tolerated.

 

[jesuischriste]

Stick fucked me up

oh shi how

 

[Lawton88]

1) Avoid the sunlight from 10 AM to 5 PM. This should actually be your primary strategy.
2) Wear a wide-brimmed hat and sunglasses if you must go outside.
3) If you must go outside, also wear a broad spectrum sunscreen; it should have either 3% avobenzone or - preferably - at least 15% zinc oxide. Re-apply at least every two hours.

Do you get any vitamin D3 if its not 10 to 5?

 

[Deleted member 643]

Do you get any vitamin D3 if its not 10 to 5?

No, vitamin D is generated only from UVB, which is significantly attenuated after 5 PM. Get it in your diet or through supplements. It's not safe to rely on sunshine for vitamin D, and certainly not acceptable for looksmaxxers who care about anti-aging.

 

[Deleted member 13094]

i've only worn sun screen in my life like once or twice

 

[JosephGarrot123]

no, you should be using sunscreen even inside your house

i have black curtains it should be fine not wearing it since im inside all the time

 

[UglyGod360]

i have black curtains it should be fine not wearing it since im inside all the time

Same. Are yours sun proof? I got some thick dark ones that are advertised as 0 light going through, from Walmart.

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Same. Are yours sun proof? I got some thick dark ones that are advertised as 0 light going through, from Walmart.

yea i got it from amazon, If I'm inside all day I don't need to waste sunscreen.
mine is newtown blackout from amazon

 

[UglyGod360]

yea i got it from amazon, If I'm inside all day I don't need to waste sunscreen.
mine is newtown blackout from amazon

Just noticed you're the same guy from the ENT specialist thread. Damn, you rot on here a lot.

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Just noticed you're the same guy from the ENT specialist thread. Damn, you rot on here a lot.

Just waiting for my appointments to get these surgeries covered by insurance in the meantime, I'm on a diet to lose weight and I'm eyebrow/eyelashmaxxing with careprost, with skincare routine with Vitamin C serum and Tretinoin 0.5%. It takes time to go to all these appointments if you're in the U.S takes like 3 weeks or a month for each one. My midface is flat and eyes are bulging with extreme sleep apnea. I can get it easily covered by insurance, I recently got a referral to see a maxillofacial surgeon hopefully he isn't bluepilled

 

[kalefartbomb]

You're a fucking idiot. There's literally mountains of peer-reviewed evidence demonstrating that exposure to ultraviolet radiation from the sun causes aging and cancer. Nobody thinks that applying sunscreen will make them Chad, either.

No there is not. There is pseudo science, associative data at best. There is no CAUSAL evidence like you are implying. Skin cancer increased about 2000% in America since sunscreen was invented. Did the sun magically get much more powerful? Or maybe is there a confounding variable? Something that has changed since the 1950s? Think a bit harder, stop repeating magazine broscience.

Premature ageing and cancer are caused primarily by diet, specifically the modern high carb diet causing chronic inflammation and mitochrondrial damage via the Warburg Effect. The clinical proof of this is that a cancerous cell nucleus can be transplanted into normal cytoplasm and the cell will not be cancerous. A healthy nucleus can be transplanted into cancerous cytoplasm and the cell will be cancerous. Thus cancer is caused in the cytoplasm (mitochrondria), NOT the nucleus.

Because cancer is fundamentally caused in the mitochrondria (ie cell metabolism) and not the nucleus (DNA) we should focus on metabolism as the basis for anti-ageing and anti-cancer strategies, rather than stupid half-witted attempts to avoid DNA damage with sunscreen, which is idiotic since every cell in the body undergoes DNA damage 10,000 times per day anyway. If DNA damage was causal with cancer and ageing we wouldn't make it out of infancy. The scientific fact is that DNA damage is a downstream result of mitochrondrial dysfunction, not the cause.

The other way to examine this topic is by studying vegans; walking evidence of how modern diets cause modern diseases. Among all the other conditions suffered by vegans, very common are premature-ageing, poor skin (both in color and elasticity), and a greater risk of cancer.

 

[Edgar]

clinical proof of this is that a cancerous cell nucleus can be transplanted into normal cytoplasm and the cell will not be cancerous. A healthy nucleus can be transplanted into cancerous cytoplasm and the cell will be cancerous. Thus cancer is caused in the cytoplasm (mitochrondria), NOT the nucleus.

Link to study please

 

[Edgar]

just fart

Sikdir gijdillag

 

[Epola]

You don't need sunscreen. UV radiation is good for you. It's the chemicals in sunscreen that cause all these skin problems. Raw sunlight is therapeutic for your body and your mind. The easiest looksmax by far.

 

[Deleted member 643]

No there is not. There is pseudo science, associative data at best. There is no CAUSAL evidence like you are implying. Skin cancer increased about 2000% in America since sunscreen was invented. Did the sun magically get much more powerful? Or maybe is there a confounding variable? Something that has changed since the 1950s? Think a bit harder, stop repeating magazine broscience.

Premature ageing and cancer are caused primarily by diet, specifically the modern high carb diet causing chronic inflammation and mitochrondrial damage via the Warburg Effect. The clinical proof of this is that a cancerous cell nucleus can be transplanted into normal cytoplasm and the cell will not be cancerous. A healthy nucleus can be transplanted into cancerous cytoplasm and the cell will be cancerous. Thus cancer is caused in the cytoplasm (mitochrondria), NOT the nucleus.

Because cancer is fundamentally caused in the mitochrondria (ie cell metabolism) and not the nucleus (DNA) we should focus on metabolism as the basis for anti-ageing and anti-cancer strategies, rather than stupid half-witted attempts to avoid DNA damage with sunscreen, which is idiotic since every cell in the body undergoes DNA damage 10,000 times per day anyway. If DNA damage was causal with cancer and ageing we wouldn't make it out of infancy. The scientific fact is that DNA damage is a downstream result of mitochrondrial dysfunction, not the cause.

The other way to examine this topic is by studying vegans; walking evidence of how modern diets cause modern diseases. Among all the other conditions suffered by vegans, very common are premature-ageing, poor skin (both in color and elasticity), and a greater risk of cancer.

You make a straw-man fallacy when you claim that your opposition states that DNA damage is the cause of skin ageing. Rather, photoaging results from damage to structural proteins such as collagen from free radicals produced by UVA radiation and has absolutely nothing to do with the DNA damage.

The mechanism is discussed in-depth in this review article, which cites other works of published science. If you think there is a lack of causal evidence present in these publications, feel free to point out the flawed methodology.

Also, to address your "counterpoint" about skin cancer rates in the U.S. rising, the answer is simple. It's the same reason as why the introduction of helmets actually caused an increase in concussions for bicyclists - people no longer wear as much sun-protective clothing or avoid the sun as often because they assume sunscreen will offer sufficient protection.

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

get the sunscreen in a spray can

much easier and quicker

 

[ugly-but-optimistic]

You don't need sunscreen. UV radiation is good for you. It's the chemicals in sunscreen that cause all these skin problems. Raw sunlight is therapeutic for your body and your mind. The easiest looksmax by far.

this is technically true in the short term. in long term it ages the face badly

 

[Lorsss]

Can I get away with not using sunscreen if I wear a cap? I am on 60mg daily Accutane. I won't be out in the sun for a long time and will try to walk in the shadows as much as possible

no, UV radiation from sunlight fucks up your skin even if you are at home and some light enters from the basement window

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

I've never touched a sunscreen that didn't feel disgusting TBH

 

[autistic_tendencies]

It’s toxic scam

 

[Edgar]

Nigga everyone is contradicting each other

 

[Epola]

this is technically true in the short term. in long term it ages the face badly

It's possible but we really just don't know. I think UVB rays are healing for your skin, I think skin ageing mostly occurs with sunscreens that block UVB rays but not UVA. Just because something prevents sunburn doesn't mean it prevents harm. I think it's probably the opposite tbh

 

[chadley]

Can I get away with not using sunscreen if I wear a cap? I am on 60mg daily Accutane. I won't be out in the sun for a long time and will try to walk in the shadows as much as possible

Bathe in mud, blood also works.