I fucking hate the current situation in business/entrepreneurship

[thecel]

Back in the olden days, getting rich via businessmaxing meant you had to have a product or service that enriches people’s lives. You had to be innovative, creative, and hardworking. You had to know your shit, and your team had to know their shit. With great ideas required great expertise. With great profits came a great deal of toil.

Nowadays, getting rich has more to do with luck than the quality of the product (if you even have one). The top tier of moneymakers in the new generation mainly consists of the following “ventures”:

• Online marketing
• Digital real estate
• Dropshipping
• Ad revenue
• Landing pages
• Online coaching
• Online consulting
• Cryptocurrency Trading
• Forex trading
• Stock Trading
• NFTs

So cringe. I yearn for the old days of real business to return. Back in the day when getting rich meant you had to put on an expensive suit, go to the office, and lead a team of people to victory. Back in the day when owning a business meant that being a businessman was your lifestyle. Businessman was a major element of your personality. You had to sit at a desk in a skyscraper, work your ass off, sign contracts with expensive pens, go on business trips, interact with the press, please your shareholders, etc. If you wanted to drive a Lamborghini, you had to network to build connections, acquire a team of smart experts, formulate a detailed plan to ship real products, and figure out how to do R&D, marketing, distribution, supply chain management, business economics to set prices, etc. all while keeping the investors happy, and usually it took years to get to the point at which you can finally afford that Lambo. There wasn’t such thing as a passive income. All income required actively working hard.

In 2023, you can be a “businessman” and just fiddle with your laptop 2 hours a day eating Cheetos lying on your sofa jerkin off yo dick. With your fucking landing page online advertising remote coaching business. With no high school diploma. No college degree. No experts on your team. Just a basement dweller, a laptop, and a bank account. As long as you’re fucking lucked out; 99.99999% of people who try this never make it.

The problem is that hard work no longer pays off. The people who’re successful in this age are lazy mofos. They get to the top because they got lucky. They make it without making anything. No physical product. No innovative solution. No vision, no mission.

 

[OnlyHeightMatters]

it will only get worse

 

[Deleted member 16501]

You're right. This is why I felt a lot of apathy with copywriting. I'm just writing for someone's bullshit business which probably doesn't help anyone in a profound way.

The realistic thing is though, that anyone can earn very good money within 6 months. I say get with the times and focus on using it to better your life

Be more selfish.

 

[malicieusss]

Back in the olden days, getting rich via businessmaxing meant you had to have a product or service that enriches people’s lives. You had to be innovative, creative, and hardworking. You had to know your shit, and your team had to know their shit. With great ideas required great expertise. With great profits came a great deal of toil.

Nowadays, getting rich has more to do with luck than the quality of the product (if you even have one). The top tier of moneymakers in the new generation mainly consists of the following “ventures”:

• Online marketing
• Digital real estate
• Dropshipping
• Ad revenue
• Landing pages
• Online coaching
• Online consulting
• Cryptocurrency Trading
• Forex trading
• Stock Trading
• NFTs

So cringe. I yearn for the old days of real business to return. Back in the day when getting rich meant you had to put on an expensive suit, go to the office, and lead a team of people to victory. Back in the day when owning a business meant that being a businessman was your lifestyle. Businessman was a major element of your personality. You had to sit at a desk in a skyscraper, work your ass off, sign contracts with expensive pens, go on business trips, interact with the press, please your shareholders, etc. If you wanted to drive a Lamborghini, you had to network to build connections, acquire a team of smart experts, formulate a detailed plan to ship real products, and figure out how to do R&D, marketing, distribution, supply chain management, business economics to set prices, etc. all while keeping the investors happy, and usually it took years to get to the point at which you can finally afford that Lambo. There wasn’t such thing as a passive income. All income required actively working hard.

In 2023, you can be a “businessman” and just fiddle with your laptop 2 hours a day eating Cheetos lying on your sofa jerkin off yo dick. With your fucking landing page online advertising remote coaching business. With no high school diploma. No college degree. No experts on your team. Just a basement dweller, a laptop, and a bank account. As long as you’re fucking lucked out; 99.99999% of people who try this never make it.

The problem is that hard work no longer pays off. The people who’re successful in this age are lazy mofos. They get to the top because they got lucky. They make it without making anything. No physical product. No innovative solution. No vision, no mission.

I agree with that. Barrier to entry to "real" brick and mortar or simply product creation is too high for most normies and simply not appealing anymore. Sad generation.

 

[irrumator praetor]

So cringe. I yearn for the old days of real business to return.

Don't worry. All goes as planned and someone will drop a nuke and we will return to sticks and stones.

 

[hypernormie]

Back in the olden days, getting rich via businessmaxing meant you had to have a product or service that enriches people’s lives. You had to be innovative, creative, and hardworking. You had to know your shit, and your team had to know their shit. With great ideas required great expertise. With great profits came a great deal of toil.

Nowadays, getting rich has more to do with luck than the quality of the product (if you even have one). The top tier of moneymakers in the new generation mainly consists of the following “ventures”:

• Online marketing
• Digital real estate
• Dropshipping
• Ad revenue
• Landing pages
• Online coaching
• Online consulting
• Cryptocurrency Trading
• Forex trading
• Stock Trading
• NFTs

So cringe. I yearn for the old days of real business to return. Back in the day when getting rich meant you had to put on an expensive suit, go to the office, and lead a team of people to victory. Back in the day when owning a business meant that being a businessman was your lifestyle. Businessman was a major element of your personality. You had to sit at a desk in a skyscraper, work your ass off, sign contracts with expensive pens, go on business trips, interact with the press, please your shareholders, etc. If you wanted to drive a Lamborghini, you had to network to build connections, acquire a team of smart experts, formulate a detailed plan to ship real products, and figure out how to do R&D, marketing, distribution, supply chain management, business economics to set prices, etc. all while keeping the investors happy, and usually it took years to get to the point at which you can finally afford that Lambo. There wasn’t such thing as a passive income. All income required actively working hard.

In 2023, you can be a “businessman” and just fiddle with your laptop 2 hours a day eating Cheetos lying on your sofa jerkin off yo dick. With your fucking landing page online advertising remote coaching business. With no high school diploma. No college degree. No experts on your team. Just a basement dweller, a laptop, and a bank account. As long as you’re fucking lucked out; 99.99999% of people who try this never make it.

The problem is that hard work no longer pays off. The people who’re successful in this age are lazy mofos. They get to the top because they got lucky. They make it without making anything. No physical product. No innovative solution. No vision, no mission.

When people say that if you can’t make money in the modern age with the internet it is all your fault, as worn to death this statement is, it’s true.

If you can’t make a passive income in the modern world you are either mentally deficient or terribly lazy.

Most people aren’t not rich because they are unlucky, most people are just mentally deficient and lazy.

Unless you are pursuing some high skill high risk career in sports or the arts, you don’t really have an excuse for failure.

I for example would likely be raking in passive income right now through some business venture if it wasn’t for being terribly unlucky and becoming practically disabled.

God doesn’t fuck most people like he fucked me so they don’t have any excuse.
Businessmen nowadays can still do all the shit you are talking about if they want to. They don’t have to be layed out in dark room in their underwear staring into a laptop all day. The only difference is that nowadays businessmen have the opportunity to not have to be super presentable and live a certain lifestyle to make money. They still can though. Making money is no longer tied to some specific occupation, the bar is lower and so are the expectations. Still a if businessman feels that his life of easy money laid out on his sofa working 3 hours a day is too boring he will have to make his occupation. He will have to purchase a space and hire employees himself and he will probably have to take aim at a new and bigger goal to which these things are a necessity.

Yeah a degree of accomplishment is gone but it’s not gone completely. Instead of working 20+ years for a Ferrari, you now may only have to work 5-10 years. Guess what? There’s even cooler things to buy now, there’s fucking million dollar cars out there. You just gotta level up and think of the possibilities.

 

[eduardkoopman]

enriches people’s lives..

TheEnrichingLivesCel

 

[N1666]

Lol who gives a fuck, u want to go back to the “old days” where it was harder to make money? If ur poor in 2023 it’s ur fault and the fact that ur complaining shows ur probably poor as well. If it’s easy to make money what’s the problem?

 

[Cali Yuga]

Digital real estate

• Dropshipping
• Ad revenue
• Landing pages
• Online coaching
• Online consulting
• Cryptocurrency Trading
• Forex trading
• Stock Trading
• NFTs

every single one of these things is a pipe dream scam just get a job doing something even 1% productive

only way to make money consistently and predictably is by selling courses explaining how to do the shit to other marks

 

[thecel]

Lol who gives a fuck, u want to go back to the “old days” where it was harder to make money? If ur poor in 2023 it’s ur fault and the fact that ur complaining shows ur probably poor as well. If it’s easy to make money what’s the problem?

The problem is that it’s easy to make money only for the lucky ones who make a shitton of money. It’s extremely hard for the other 99.999% to make money. It’s way harder than it used to be, except for a small handful of top individuals (for whom it’s laughably easy).

In a nutshell:

Business in the old days was a marathon; modern business is a lottery.​

 

[dhn]

I make money selling information not doing what I preach.

Metacognition is key to make money nowadays or be sucessful on anything you do.

It's the same shit as woman, study what they do, not what they tell you to do.

 

[dhn]

every single one of these things is a pipe dream scam just get a job doing something even 1% productive

only way to make money consistently and predictably is by selling courses explaining how to do the shit to other marks

True.

 

[Mr.Proper]

Luck and connections always played the biggest role, and there is a ton of survivorship bias when people talk about successful business.
BTW I find it funny when people say "Big business needs less tax", "Don't tax the rich" like they imagine themselves becoming really rich someday.