I got botched by famous surgeon (WARNING)

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Brazilec said:
I underwent my initial surgery with Mario Pagnoni end of 2024, unfortunately I wasn’t very clued up on a lot of things back then and seriously wish I knew then what I know now.

I was class 3 and my initial surgery plan was meant to be maxilla advancement (8mm) mandible set back (5mm) and genio advancement (2mm) 3 piece segmental split, also peek implants to address mid face hollowness, as most people will know a 2mm advancement of the chin is absolutely pointless and 100% is not worth the risk it carries, unfortunately at the time like I said I never knew this, I just trusted his judgement but looking back now this was obviously a money grab so he could get the extra cost for the Genio

After waking up from the surgery I was pretty positive, he said everything went ‘perfectly’ and I had no reason to doubt him, 2 days later I developed a 1cm fitsula in my palette, instead of doing a surgery to fix this he said let it heal naturally - I literally couldn’t drink anything at all as it was coming out my nose and choking me every time I tried, it has got better with time but still have a hole in my pallete which is now infected, if this was the only issue I could have lived with it but this was only the start of the complications

Due to this complication I did not feel comfortable travelling home so I opted to stay in Rome for 6 weeks so I could have regular check ups with him to monitor, after 6 weeks he said it was fine and I really wanted to get back so I left as it was close to Christmas.

After 12 weeks I noticed something just wasn’t right with the implants, they looked horrendous and were obviously placed incorrectly, I sent him the picture and he said ‘we can take them out if you like’ as usual one of his very vague responses not caring about his shady work, I opted to have them removed and had to pay yet again for the hospital fees which in my opinion I shouldn’t have needed to because they absolutely horrendous, literally popping out of my face. Anyway I was starting to become more and more untrusting of him after this, I got them removed and travelled home again. (Lost all feeling in my orbital area as well)

2 more months went by and I’ve noticed movement in my maxilla, could literally wiggle it up and down, I sent this to him and he said come back over for revision just like it’s a causal thing and not a completely serious matter, I didn’t know what to do or who to turn to so I decided to go back yet again where he told me he would use bone graft to fix this, which should have been done in the first place btw! My movements were huge and multiple surgeons I’ve consulted with since have been in disbelief he’s done this surgery without bone graft due to my movements being so large, he said this was due to lose screws and refused to declare it a non union, I had concerns the day before surgery and sent him a few questions and the reply I got was ‘let me know if you’re coming for surgery tomorrow or not’ well if things couldn’t get worse I came out of theatre and he told me ‘my assistant said you didn’t need bone graft so we didn’t use it’ all he done was swap a custom plate with a stock plate and why is he changing surgery plans we agreed on then taking orders from his assistant? ABSOLUTELY WILD!

Well another 4 months have went by and guess what? Maxilla is moving again with confirmed non union, not a chance I will go back to this butcher and I feel like an absolute idiot for going back for revision to begin with but I just wanted this nightmare over.

I’ve since consulted with 3 surgeons who have confirmed malpractice and have been in sheer disbelief from his shady work, luckily I’ve not had issues with my mandible YET but the surgeons have said his BSSO cut ‘lacks science’ and has no stability due to minimal bone contact so I may have future issues.

I urge anyone who is thinking about using him to think again and take this as a warning, I’ve spoken with multiple other patients who are in a similar position as me who I hope will come forward eventually once they’ve had there issues seen to.

This has taken over my life for the past 18 months and his complete disregard is shocking, he shouldn’t be allowed to operate.

LIST OF COMPLICATIONS

* misplaced peek implants

* Segmental relapse

* Fisula

* Multiple non unions

* Dislodged screws in maxilla plates

* Unstable BSSO cut

* No bone graft

* Complete numbness in my full mandible and lower lip

* Chronic pain in chin and maxilla

* Infection

I know this surgery carries risks but this is absolute butchery, this surgery was done for functional issues as I had 13mm underbite and of course to a cosmetic degree, I’ve ended up worse off than what I was prior to having it done functionality wise.

I am in the process of legal action as I’m not letting him away with it and will spend whatever it takes to hold him accountable, even if I don’t get compensation I want it on record so others can see and avoid, this man has no ethics and is only interested in money, once you’ve had the surgery he does not care and will admit no liability.

I fell for the marketing stunt all over these forums but have you noticed there’s no actual results of his work? Just people saying they’ve consulted with him.

I partly blame myself for this in hindsight and I was a bit naive going into this without a lot of knowledge on standard movements and what should be required, I don’t want anyone to go through this if it’s avoidable and I feel like if I didn’t share my experience then people wouldn’t know what he’s like, this is a very harsh surgery please don’t under estimate it and make the same mistakes I did, do serious research on your surgeon first.
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Just read this... utterly disgusting I'm glad you're trying to hold him accountable.

This nga needs to be in jail
 
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Sayori said:
Just read this... utterly disgusting I'm glad you're trying to hold him accountable.

This nga needs to be in jail
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send me 15$ to recover from botched jaw surgery
 
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Sayori said:
I really would but I lost over 400 dollars today since my package got seized:feelswhy:
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you are absolute piece of shit
what you dont have 15 $? rot in hell you son of a bitch
 
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Brazilec said:
then suck my balls faggot , hope you die from salmonella
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Man thank god you got botched

Whoever botched you is a great surgeon :lul::lul:

He did a great job by making you ugly :lul:

Oh and also you POOR BROKE FAGGOT ID FLEX BANDS ON YOU RN

ID FLEX MULTIPLE THOUSANDS ON U RN BUT I FUCKING CANT UPLOAD PICTURES NIGGER

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asdvek said:
Man thank god you got botched

Whoever botched you is a great surgeon :lul::lul:

He did a great job by making you ugly :lul:

Oh and also you POOR BROKE FAGGOT ID FLEX BANDS ON YOU RN

ID FLEX MULTIPLE THOUSANDS ON U RN BUT I FUCKING CANT UPLOAD PICTURES NIGGER

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help me with 15$ to recover from botched jaw surgery. thanks kind man
 
Brazilec said:
help me with 15$ to recover from botched jaw surgery. thanks kind man
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NIGGA I GOT 10K CASH SITTING ON MY DESK RN LOLOLOL

YOU SHOULD THANK GOD THE PICTURES OF THIS SLOW ASS FORUM ARE BROKEN
 
contact @Vermilioncore if its easier for you to help that way
he takes 12.50$ now for pics . after 2 hours it will be 15$ no excuses
 
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Brazilec said:
hey guys . there are so many dms i cant respond to anyone

since im suffering so hard and out of money, i will charge 15$ for pics . dm me for my bitcoin wallet
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Can’t believe I wasted my time reading this shit
 
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contact @Vermilioncore if its easier for you to help that way
he takes 12.50$ now for pics . after 2 hours it will be 15$ no excuses
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First come, first serve. Be quick.
 
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NIGGA I GOT 10K CASH SITTING ON MY DESK RN LOLOLOL

YOU SHOULD THANK GOD THE PICTURES OF THIS SLOW ASS FORUM ARE BROKEN
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you have 10 thousand dollars? you can help me with some

send me 45$ so i can recover from botched jaw surgery
 
ybuyhgui said:
Can’t believe I wasted my time reading this shit
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if you are poor and dont have 15$ in your pocket as an adult male you are doing something wrong

go kill yourself retard, if you dont want to help go away faggot
 
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asdvek said:
NAH U AINT GETTING SHIT

GET A JOB FAGGOT
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i lost my job as english teacher for russian kids

they laughed at me after botched jaw surgery

send me 20$ so i can recover from it and file a lawsuit
 
Brazilec said:
i lost my job as english teacher for russian kids

they laughed at me after botched jaw surgery

send me 20$ so i can recover from it and file a lawsuit
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GO WORK IN MCDONALDS FAG
 
asdvek said:
NIGGA 15 IS AN HOUR OF WORK IN MCDONALDS

JS GO MCDONALDS
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no its 5 dollars in my country
help me im getting kicked out of gas station , im with my ipad there asking people for help . good people from .org help me recover from botched jaw surgery
 
asdvek said:
NIGGA JUST WORK IN MCDONALDS

NOBODY GIVING THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

GO WORK FOR IT
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Send me 15$ help me sue the guy
 
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Brazilec said:
I underwent my initial surgery with Mario Pagnoni end of 2024, unfortunately I wasn’t very clued up on a lot of things back then and seriously wish I knew then what I know now.

I was class 3 and my initial surgery plan was meant to be maxilla advancement (8mm) mandible set back (5mm) and genio advancement (2mm) 3 piece segmental split, also peek implants to address mid face hollowness, as most people will know a 2mm advancement of the chin is absolutely pointless and 100% is not worth the risk it carries, unfortunately at the time like I said I never knew this, I just trusted his judgement but looking back now this was obviously a money grab so he could get the extra cost for the Genio

After waking up from the surgery I was pretty positive, he said everything went ‘perfectly’ and I had no reason to doubt him, 2 days later I developed a 1cm fitsula in my palette, instead of doing a surgery to fix this he said let it heal naturally - I literally couldn’t drink anything at all as it was coming out my nose and choking me every time I tried, it has got better with time but still have a hole in my pallete which is now infected, if this was the only issue I could have lived with it but this was only the start of the complications

Due to this complication I did not feel comfortable travelling home so I opted to stay in Rome for 6 weeks so I could have regular check ups with him to monitor, after 6 weeks he said it was fine and I really wanted to get back so I left as it was close to Christmas.

After 12 weeks I noticed something just wasn’t right with the implants, they looked horrendous and were obviously placed incorrectly, I sent him the picture and he said ‘we can take them out if you like’ as usual one of his very vague responses not caring about his shady work, I opted to have them removed and had to pay yet again for the hospital fees which in my opinion I shouldn’t have needed to because they absolutely horrendous, literally popping out of my face. Anyway I was starting to become more and more untrusting of him after this, I got them removed and travelled home again. (Lost all feeling in my orbital area as well)

2 more months went by and I’ve noticed movement in my maxilla, could literally wiggle it up and down, I sent this to him and he said come back over for revision just like it’s a causal thing and not a completely serious matter, I didn’t know what to do or who to turn to so I decided to go back yet again where he told me he would use bone graft to fix this, which should have been done in the first place btw! My movements were huge and multiple surgeons I’ve consulted with since have been in disbelief he’s done this surgery without bone graft due to my movements being so large, he said this was due to lose screws and refused to declare it a non union, I had concerns the day before surgery and sent him a few questions and the reply I got was ‘let me know if you’re coming for surgery tomorrow or not’ well if things couldn’t get worse I came out of theatre and he told me ‘my assistant said you didn’t need bone graft so we didn’t use it’ all he done was swap a custom plate with a stock plate and why is he changing surgery plans we agreed on then taking orders from his assistant? ABSOLUTELY WILD!

Well another 4 months have went by and guess what? Maxilla is moving again with confirmed non union, not a chance I will go back to this butcher and I feel like an absolute idiot for going back for revision to begin with but I just wanted this nightmare over.

I’ve since consulted with 3 surgeons who have confirmed malpractice and have been in sheer disbelief from his shady work, luckily I’ve not had issues with my mandible YET but the surgeons have said his BSSO cut ‘lacks science’ and has no stability due to minimal bone contact so I may have future issues.

I urge anyone who is thinking about using him to think again and take this as a warning, I’ve spoken with multiple other patients who are in a similar position as me who I hope will come forward eventually once they’ve had there issues seen to.

This has taken over my life for the past 18 months and his complete disregard is shocking, he shouldn’t be allowed to operate.

LIST OF COMPLICATIONS

* misplaced peek implants

* Segmental relapse

* Fisula

* Multiple non unions

* Dislodged screws in maxilla plates

* Unstable BSSO cut

* No bone graft

* Complete numbness in my full mandible and lower lip

* Chronic pain in chin and maxilla

* Infection

I know this surgery carries risks but this is absolute butchery, this surgery was done for functional issues as I had 13mm underbite and of course to a cosmetic degree, I’ve ended up worse off than what I was prior to having it done functionality wise.

I am in the process of legal action as I’m not letting him away with it and will spend whatever it takes to hold him accountable, even if I don’t get compensation I want it on record so others can see and avoid, this man has no ethics and is only interested in money, once you’ve had the surgery he does not care and will admit no liability.

I fell for the marketing stunt all over these forums but have you noticed there’s no actual results of his work? Just people saying they’ve consulted with him.

I partly blame myself for this in hindsight and I was a bit naive going into this without a lot of knowledge on standard movements and what should be required, I don’t want anyone to go through this if it’s avoidable and I feel like if I didn’t share my experience then people wouldn’t know what he’s like, this is a very harsh surgery please don’t under estimate it and make the same mistakes I did, do serious research on your surgeon first.
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brutal

all this just cuz you weren’t born htn+
 
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Brazilec said:
Send me 15$ . 11 people already helped me
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Bro

I swear to god

Can't mods take this down?

Like you're a SCAMMER nigga you're lying to get money you have never got surgery

@chadisbeingmade @TechnoBoss @SlayerJonas
 
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asdvek said:
Bro

I swear to god

Can't mods take this down?

Like you're a SCAMMER nigga you're lying to get money you have never got surgery

@chadisbeingmade @TechnoBoss @SlayerJonas
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You are lying
 
Send me money
 
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Where are you from? You flew to Rome and then had to stay extra time there?

I was looking into some of the Italian surgeons because they’re cheaper than here (USA) and I think of Italy as having a much better healthcare system overall. But this gives me second thoughts about traveling anywhere for jaw surgery.
 
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Where are you from? You flew to Rome and then had to stay extra time there?

I was looking into some of the Italian surgeons because they’re cheaper than here (USA) and I think of Italy as having a much better healthcare system overall. But this gives me second thoughts about traveling anywhere for jaw surgery.
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Hi im from kiyv
 
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asdvek said:
Bro

I swear to god

Can't mods take this down?

Like you're a SCAMMER nigga you're lying to get money you have never got surgery

@chadisbeingmade @TechnoBoss @SlayerJonas
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this indian faggot copied a post from reddit :lul::lul:
 
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Brazilec said:
yes its true
ive delete every single post from my previous alt so i didnt have problems at uni
i graduated this year and im making 100+ k a year already thanks to the vermi

those 100$ that i invested were well worth it
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>makes 100k a year
>needs 15 dollars to show pics

Op if this is a made up story thats really not cool and you should be perma banned if so
 
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@Gengar
@Amnesia
@medialcanthus

why larp about this and ask people for money you fucking retard kill yourself
 
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yussimania said:


@Gengar
@Amnesia
@medialcanthus

why larp about this and ask people for money you fucking retard kill yourself
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Yeah, someone else informed it was LARP. Thread will be locked.
 
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