I hate having to take sides between Jews and Muslims as a christian

[yandex99]

So I get that hurting Israel is wrong from a Christian biblical POV it's touching the cornea of gods eye in Bible

At same time I don't mindlessly hate muslims and even have some Muslim family like my sister

I don't like to pretend I hate Jews around Muslims and I dont like to pretend to hate muslims with my Jewish friend

 

[coolman985]

So I get that hurting Israel is wrong from a Christian biblical POV it's touching the cornea of gods eye in Bible

At same time I don't mindlessly hate muslims and even have some Muslim family like my sister

I don't like to pretend I hate Jews around Muslims and I dont like to pretend to hate muslims with my Jewish friend

How tf is hating on the modern country of Israel against the Bible they are the ones bombing churches

 

[yandex99]

How tf is hating on the modern country of Israel against the Bible they are the ones bombing churches

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

 

[coolman985]

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

@yussimania @Gengar so if Jews are going to heaven why don’t you become Jew then?

 

[Gengar]

@yussimania @Gengar so if Jews are going to heaven why don’t you become Jew then?

They’re not. OP is just saying shit.

Then again I don’t really believe in an afterlife. Ngl.

 

[coolman985]

They’re not. OP is just saying shit.

Then again I don’t really believe in an afterlife. Ngl.

I thought u were Muslim?

 

[yandex99]

@yussimania @Gengar so if Jews are going to heaven why don’t you become Jew then?

Because I love Christ?he saved me deep in my sins thru his free grace.

I am so thankful to him that I am saved regardless of my work that I seek to serve him as the bible says from slaves to sons

 

[yandex99]

They’re not. OP is just saying shit.

Then again I don’t really believe in an afterlife. Ngl.

In charismatic Christianity it's our theology

 

[symmetrymax]

bro it depends who ur talking abt, ACTUAL jews, not the jews we know of today and ACTUAL muslims are not that different, u dont have to take sides between them if ygm

 

[yussimania]

@yussimania @Gengar so if Jews are going to heaven why don’t you become Jew then?

who said jews are going to heaven what. I'm Muslim

Also OP keeps switching sides don't take him seriously he is retarded, when i first joined he was Muslim then he became a jew and now he's a protestant

 

[coolman985]

who said jews are going to heaven what. I'm Muslim

Also OP keeps switching sides don't take him seriously he is retarded, when i first joined he was Muslim then he became a jew and now he's a protestant

No I was just tagging u I was replying to op

 

[TungTungTungSahur]

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

Good doggy

 

[Gengar]

I thought u were Muslim?

I am but the idea of an afterlife seems like cope to me ngl.

 

[Gengar]

In charismatic Christianity it's our theology

That Jews go to heaven?

 

[yandex99]

That Jews go to heaven?

Yes,we even think Elvis went to heaven because he became a Jew before his death it's on the sid roth it's supernatural show which is a famous charismatic Christianity show

 

[Gengar]

Yes,we even think Elvis went to heaven because he became a Jew before his death it's on the sid roth it's supernatural show which is a famous charismatic Christianity show

That’s interesting. I was speaking from an Islamic point of view, but idk, personally I don’t believe in an afterlife. I think we’re just coping with the fact life is so bleak. An afterlife sounds to good to be true. I know it’s weird coming from me since I identify as Islamic, but it’s just a feeling I can’t shake off.

 

[yandex99]

That’s interesting. I was speaking from an Islamic point of view, but idk, personally I don’t believe in an afterlife. I think we’re just coping with the fact life is so bleak. An afterlife sounds to good to be true. I know it’s weird coming from me since I identify as Islamic, but it’s just a feeling I can’t shake off.

How do you explain veridical out of body experiences and professional astral projectors ?

 

[yandex99]

That’s interesting. I was speaking from an Islamic point of view, but idk, personally I don’t believe in an afterlife. I think we’re just coping with the fact life is so bleak. An afterlife sounds to good to be true. I know it’s weird coming from me since I identify as Islamic, but it’s just a feeling I can’t shake off.

You can test this with Robert monroes hemi sync

 

[Gengar]

How do you explain veridical out of body experiences and professional astral projectors ?

Brain chemicals. But our brain activity stops a few minutes after death, after that we will enter the same state we were in before: non-consciousness. Permanently. Sounds awful and bleak, right? That’s because it is.

 

[yandex99]

Brain chemicals. But our brain activity stops a few minutes after death, after that we will enter the same state we were in before: non-consciousness. Permanently. Sounds awful and bleak, right? That’s because it is.

Have you read the spanda karika bhasya by jaidev Singh?he explained in a few stanza that unconscious state cannot logically exist and that consciousness is changeless even though it seems potential

 

[coolman985]

Brain chemicals. But our brain activity stops a few minutes after death, after that we will enter the same state we were in before: non-consciousness. Permanently. Sounds awful and bleak, right? That’s because it is.

Yeah but then what’s the point of adhering to ıslam if you don’t believe in the afterlife ?

 

[Gengar]

Have you read the spanda karika bhasya by jaidev Singh?he explained in a few stanza that unconscious state cannot logically exist and that consciousness is changeless even though it seems potential

I haven’t read it, but I think all these guys are just coping in their own way. I don’t believe in it at all.

 

[Gengar]

Yeah but then what’s the point of adhering to ıslam if you don’t believe in the afterlife ?

Because Islam is not just a religion; it’s a way of life as well. I believe it leads to a great society if practiced properly. I know I’m contradicting myself, but I do believe God exists. However, I don’t believe an afterlife actually exists.

 

[yandex99]

I haven’t read it, but I think all these guys are just coping in their own way. I don’t believe in it at all.

Well I think you should come to Christ

You'll be unpleasant surprised to go to eternal fire rather than oblivion

No offense I care about you and you only have to believe once without trusting on your own works to go to heaven

 

[coolman985]

Because Islam is not just a religion; it’s a way of life as well. I believe it leads to a great society if practiced properly. I know I’m contradicting myself, but I do believe God exists. However, I don’t believe an afterlife actually exists.

So basically u belief in the teachings but not the theology?

 

[Gengar]

Well I think you should come to Christ

You'll be unpleasant surprised to go to eternal fire rather than oblivion

No offense I care about you and you only have to believe once without trusting on your own works to go to heaven

I appreciate your kindness. I actually grew up with a Christian parent figure. They were Protestant. And very critical of today’s Christians. Their criticism applies to Islamic communities as well. Lots of hypocrisy, with the biggest hypocrites sitting in the front row of church. That’s what they often told me. They shared many stories with me. They passed away years ago, sadly.

 

[Gengar]

So basically u belief in the teachings but not the theology?

I guess, yeah. I believe in the teachings but I don’t believe in the afterlife stuff.

 

[Brus Wane]

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

 

[coolman985]

I guess, yeah. I believe in the teachings but I don’t believe in the afterlife stuff.

Why not though? I would like to hear your reasoning even if you think it’s cope that doesn’t necessarily mean its untrue

 

[JohnDoe]

Is this thread real? Jews literally have in their books that Jesus is burning in excrement in hell. Muslims love and consider jesus a prophet and hold him in high regard, it's why jews will get angry when jesus is mentioned and always talk shit while Muslims will never talk bad about Jesus because he was prophet, infact we also think he is the savior. I really don't understand how any real christian can side with the jews over muslims, do you have a brain or what?

 

[Gengar]

Why not though? I would like to hear your reasoning even if you think it’s cope that doesn’t necessarily mean its untrue

I feel like it’s too good to be true. A life after this one where people can live happily ever after? It sounds like something that’s pure copium. But I don’t buy it.

 

[coolman985]

I feel like it’s too good to be true. A life after this one where people can live happily ever after? It sounds like something that’s pure copium. But I don’t buy it.

I get your point but I think just because something sound too good to be true doesn’t necessarily prove anything

 

[Gengar]

I get your point but I think just because something sound too good to be true doesn’t necessarily prove anything

It just seems very unrealistic.

 

[yandex99]

It just seems very unrealistic.

Nigga look up inspiring philosophy on YouTube and his playlists on quantum physics

 

[JohnDoe]

How do you explain veridical out of body experiences and professional astral projectors ?

If you thoroughly and extensively research Near death experiences, it becomes illogical to not believe in an afterlife. The "scientific" reasoning of NDEs simply being DMT release is incorrect and has been debunked already. Furthermore there is no scientific explanation for things like this, e.g: A patient undergoing surgery had an out of body experience, they heard the doctors words even though they are unconscious and the doctor is in a completely different room away from the operating theatre, it's simply not possible to know what was said unless the out of body experience is real. Astral projection, etc it's all real. "Science" is a sham, they won't even accept that every human being is encased in an electromagnetic field.

 

[coolman985]

It just seems very unrealistic.

Ig but you could say that for any aspect of any religion

 

[Gengar]

Nigga look up inspiring philosophy on YouTube and his playlists on quantum physics

I’m a true nihilistic pessimist.

 

[Gengar]

Ig but you could say that for any aspect of any religion

Hmm.. the afterlife stuff? Sure. Don’t even get me on meme stuff like reincarnation.

 

[ikramy]

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

No way nigga
@Mogsgymmaxx @iblamexyz

 

[yandex99]

If you thoroughly and extensively research Near death experiences, it becomes illogical to not believe in an afterlife. The "scientific" reasoning of NDEs simply being DMT release is incorrect and has been debunked already. Furthermore there is no scientific explanation for things like this, e.g: A patient undergoing surgery had an out of body experience, they heard the doctors words even though they are unconscious and the doctor is in a completely different room away from the operating theatre, it's simply not possible to know what was said unless the out of body experience is real. Astral projection, etc it's all real. "Science" is a sham, they won't even accept that every human being is encased in an electromagnetic field.

Science aka physics accepts everything is consciousness

It's biology you mean

It's still stuck in the age of Charles darwin

 

[coolman985]

Hmm.. the afterlife stuff? Sure. Don’t even get me on meme stuff like reincarnation.

Like the existence of god or that prophets were sent by god the whole point is that they are supposed to be extraordinary

 

[SecularIslamist]

I am but the idea of an afterlife seems like cope to me ngl.

Then again I don’t really believe in an afterlife. Ngl.

You are 100% kafir for saying that. You are basically a cultural Muslim. Actually there is no difference than you and so called ex Muslims. You just want to borrow certain norms, legal codes and values which are part of Islam but ignore the metaphysical foundations. Actually if you did the OPPOSITE and believed in the foundations but ignored the rules and norms that is a MILLION TIMES BETTER!!! You're going against one of the pillars not just ignoring a rule you don't like.

There is no point responding with an essay. Calling me an Islamist. A hypocrite. A takfiri..wahhabi. Idc. You are 100% a kafir even a liberal Muzzie would takfir you.

 

[JohnDoe]

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

How can this make sense for Christians when the jews have it written in their holy book that your "god" aka jesus is in hell? do christians not have a functioning brain or what is this?

 

[iblamexyz]

No way nigga
@Mogsgymmaxx @iblamexyz

Genuinely what is he yapping about

 

[JohnDoe]

You are 100% kafir for saying that. You are basically a cultural Muslim. Actually there is no difference than you and so called ex Muslims. You just want to borrow certain norms, legal codes and values which are part of Islam but ignore the metaphysical foundations. Actually if you did the OPPOSITE and believed in the foundations but ignored the rules and norms that is a MILLION TIMES BETTER!!! You're going against one of the pillars not just ignoring a rule you don't like.

There is no point responding with an essay. Calling me an Islamist. A hypocrite. A takfiri..wahhabi. Idc. You are 100% a kafir even a liberal Muzzie would takfir you.

Unfortunately i have to agree, i don't think @Gengar can call himself Muslim because you can't say you don't believe in an afterlife, it just doesn't work like that.

 

[SecularIslamist]

Brain chemicals. But our brain activity stops a few minutes after death, after that we will enter the same state we were in before: non-consciousness. Permanently. Sounds awful and bleak, right? That’s because it is.

Kufr confirmed. You could say it's just a state of mind like ibn sina - who is still a kafir. But he didn't deny an afterlife in theory.

 

[Gengar]

Like the existence of god or that prophets were sent by god the whole point is that they are supposed to be extraordinary

Well, I do believe God is real because I don’t believe we just came into existence after some coincidental explosion in the sky. And that we were one-celled and involved into what we are now. There is a Creator, I think this is the logical conclusion for any scientist. Too many variables that come into play, which cannot be brushed off as a mere coincidence. As for prophets, they were sent to spread the word, of the existence of God. However, I just don’t buy the afterlife stuff, even though that’s integral and preached as well. I’m a pessimistic nihilist, so it’s impossible for me to believe in something that sounds so good.

 

[Gengar]

Unfortunately i have to agree, i don't think @Gengar can call himself Muslim because you can't say you don't believe in an afterlife, it just doesn't work like that.

Kufr confirmed. You could say it's just a state of mind like ibn sina - who is still a kafir. But he didn't deny an afterlife in theory.

Cue the righteous Muslim men who are going to tell me what I am and what I’m not.

 

[lucifer88]

I'll explain to you

For us the Jewish nation is like what the masjid al haram is for you guys

Even if Jews tried to genocide us all we protestant christian believe all of Israel will be saved and all Jews go to heaven and they are still the chosen people

It's just the merit of their ancestors like Isaac Abraham and Jacob not their own merit it has to do with the promises to the patriarchs

ur a funny dude let me tell u that

 

[Gengar]

You are 100% kafir for saying that. You are basically a cultural Muslim. Actually there is no difference than you and so called ex Muslims. You just want to borrow certain norms, legal codes and values which are part of Islam but ignore the metaphysical foundations. Actually if you did the OPPOSITE and believed in the foundations but ignored the rules and norms that is a MILLION TIMES BETTER!!! You're going against one of the pillars not just ignoring a rule you don't like.

There is no point responding with an essay. Calling me an Islamist. A hypocrite. A takfiri..wahhabi. Idc. You are 100% a kafir even a liberal Muzzie would takfir you.

No offense, but I don’t really care about what you or anyone else thinks. I don’t think I’m a kafir and neither you nor @JohnDoe can convince me otherwise.