I have gained a bit of ccw rotation

[Joaquin]

Not exactly same angles but you can see how my maxillomandibular complex rotated upwards and forward

 

[Joaquin]

@standardcel why the jfl I clearly look better lmao

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

I do see a difference, but I can't tell if it's just from posing + angles. Not completely denying there's a difference though

What did you do?

 

[Joaquin]

I do see a difference, but I can't tell if it's just from posing + angles. Not completely denying there's a difference though

What did you do?

I used to mouthbreath a lot bro.
Basically started giving my maxilla the right stimulus to grow forward and upwards and therefore making my nose straighter, better infraorbitals, chin, and gonial angle.
Basically started mewing , hard mewing, also thumbpulling and very importanlty mouth tape.
The angles are different but its very difficult to recreate the same exact angles but I think the changes are crearly visible and its not just an angles thing.
I have way more face fat now too

 

[Joaquin]

I do see a difference, but I can't tell if it's just from posing + angles. Not completely denying there's a difference though

What did you do?

I used to mouthbreath a lot bro.
Basically started giving my maxilla the right stimulus to grow forward and upwards and therefore making my nose straighter, better infraorbitals, chin, and gonial angle.
Basically started mewing , hard mewing, also thumbpulling and very importanlty mouth tape.
The angles are different but its very difficult to recreate the same exact angles but I think the changes are crearly visible and its not just an angles thing.
I have way more face fat now too

My lower third is not as large as it used to be but it still large compared to my middle third because I became downgrown due to year of bad habits

 

[Joaquin]

My lower third is not as large as it used to be but it still large compared to my middle third because I became downgrown due to year of bad habits

Im basically trying to reverse the bad changes that occured in my face due too cooked oral posture

 

[Iraniancel]

Photo comparison is not enough to draw a clear conclusion

 

[Joaquin]

Photo comparison is not enough to draw a clear conclusion

I agree but I think the changes are noticable

 

[Iraniancel]

I agree but I think the changes are noticable

From the pictures it does look like it but i don't think oral habits do shit after age 14

 

[Joaquin]

From the pictures it does look like it but i don't think oral habits do shit after age 14

Oh trust me it does

 

[Joaquin]

From the pictures it does look like it but i don't think oral habits do shit after age 14

 

[Iraniancel]

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Different posture, hair, angle and probably lens distortion+lighting.

 

[LegendaryKennen]

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some yter said he got a chin implant, dunno if true. also fixing forward head posture made the biggest difference

 

[Joaquin]

Different posture, hair, angle and probably lens distortion+lighting.

I cant bro...
posture doesnt change bone placement,angle neither.both pics have the same lens distorsion

 

[Joaquin]

some yter said he got a chin implant, dunno if true. also fixing forward head posture made the biggest difference

Yeah its clearly not true its a natural transformation

 

[Iraniancel]

I cant bro...
posture doesnt change bone placement,angle neither.both pics have the same lens distorsion

The bones did not change, it just looks like it because of the points i mentioned jfl

 

[Joaquin]

The bones did not change, it just looks like it because of the points i mentioned jfl

Yeah so basically a better posture could gave him a lower gonial angle

 

[Iraniancel]

Yeah so basically a better posture could gave him a lower gonial angle

His gonial angle did in fact not change

 

[Joaquin]

His gonial angle did in fact not change

Sure

 

[Iraniancel]

Sure

First pic is tongue on the bottom of the mouth, higher bf maybe even jaw pulled pack via neck muscle contraction. His bones did not change.

 

[Joaquin]

First pic is tongue on the bottom of the mouth, higher bf maybe even jaw pulled pack via neck muscle contraction. His bones did not change.

He did xray and his bones literammy changed so believe whatever you want lol.
Also Ive noticed the changes in my face too but you will say muh puberty muh posture muh angles

 

[Iraniancel]

He did xray and his bones literammy changed so believe whatever you want lol.
Also Ive noticed the changes in my face too but you will say muh puberty muh posture muh angles

Xray? CBCT scan you mean? Can you send it here, i find it hard to believe.

 

[Joaquin]

Xray? CBCT scan you mean? Can you send it here, i find it hard to believe.

 

[Joaquin]

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jfl if you think you cant change your face naturally

 

[Joaquin]

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@Iraniancel
can I get this transformation just by changing my posture

 

[Iraniancel]

@Iraniancel
can I get this transformation just by changing my posture

It looks like ccw but are we sure its natural?

 

[Iraniancel]

It looks like ccw but are we sure its natural?

Why is his chin bone so far behind his chin?

 

[Joaquin]

It looks like ccw but are we sure its natural?

Obviously, ive had a similar transformation, its not rocket science lmao

 

[Joaquin]

Why is his chin bone so far behind his chin?

Because some people have more fat tissue .
Anyways why does it matter, his chin became more forward regardless of how recessed it is

 

[Iraniancel]

Obviously, ive had a similar transformation, its not rocket science lmao

Why do i have a perfect gonial angle when i mouth breathed a lot? I chewed a lot yet girls have wider jaws than me? Maybe it does work tho

 

[Joaquin]

Why do i have a perfect gonial angle when i mouth breathed a lot? I chewed a lot yet girls have wider jaws than me? Maybe it does work tho

1. Whats your gonial angle
2.did you louth breath 24/7 year by year?
3.because you mouthbreathed

 

[Iraniancel]

1. Whats your gonial angle
2.did you louth breath 24/7 year by year?
3.because you mouthbreathed

I only mouth breathed sometimes during night maybe once a week max tbh and had shit posture. I do have a crossbite that im fixing rn maybe that led to jaw recession, since i had a solid jaw as a kid that got worse with age. I have mild scoliosis as well. But im not sure if that affected me a lot. Wisdom teeth extracted at 15.

 

[Iraniancel]

1. Whats your gonial angle
2.did you louth breath 24/7 year by year?
3.because you mouthbreathed

Idk exact gonial angle let me measure.

 

[Joaquin]

I only mouth breathed sometimes during night maybe once a week max tbh and had shit posture. I do have a crossbite that im fixing rn maybe that led to jaw recession, since i had a solid jaw as a kid that got worse with age. I have mild scoliosis as well. But im not sure if that affected me a lot. Wisdom teeth extracted at 15.

You have the responses there of why you have an underdeveloped jaw

 

[Iraniancel]

Idk exact gonial angle let me measure.

I dont have anything to measure rn but its so square if my gonial angle decreases i would look like a minecraft character from the side.

Mine looks like the left yet my jaw is narrow asf
edit: maybe a few degrees more but way better than the middle

 

[Joaquin]

I dont have anything to measure rn but its so square if my gonial angle decreases i would look like a minecraft character from the side. View attachment 3817116
Mine looks like the left yet my jaw is narrow asf
edit: maybe a few degrees more but way better than the middle

I can measure it for you

 

[Iraniancel]

You have the responses there of why you have an underdeveloped jaw

partially fixable at 18? Afaik jaw develops until 18-21? Im gonna chew a lot and blast roids and other stuff and pray idk if its cope but got nothing to lose

 

[Joaquin]

I dont have anything to measure rn but its so square if my gonial angle decreases i would look like a minecraft character from the side. View attachment 3817116
Mine looks like the left yet my jaw is narrow asf
edit: maybe a few degrees more but way better than the middle

If its like 110° then its not bad, the real bad starts ar 100° or less

 

[Joaquin]

partially fixable at 18? Afaik jaw develops until 18-21? Im gonna chew a lot and blast roids and other stuff and pray idk if its cope but got nothing to lose

Can you pm your face I can help you but I need to analyse everything

 

[Iraniancel]

Can you pm your face I can help you but I need to analyse everything

Im sending you wait. Had to make a pic where its impossible to trace me unless you analyze my beard pattern