I have no sex appeal

Always Stay You

Always Stay You

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I can't imagine girls seeing me as a sexual being. I'm gymcelled, average height, tan, average face and maxxed in any ways, but I just don't have a sexual vibe. I'm not high energy enough. I'm monotone and depressed. Also, my hair isn't dark enough. Guys with blondeish light brown hair can't look sexy.

My eye area is too rounded as well, so, despite my naturally ideal brows and lashes, it just doesn't have that predator look to make girls wet. My jaw is average - a bit recessed and quite down grown. My midface is long as well.

Hopefully my eye area surgeries next summer can ascend me, combined with dying my hair dark brown.

How else can you gain sex appeal? Is it possible?
 
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u think your bad? imagine a cutecel ):, be grateful
 
I'm Polish / English but look completely anglo and have that friendly white guy phenotype. I don't look aggressive and my voice is too deep and monotone, yet also slightly nasally. I look like LTR material who will make her a bowl of popcorn on movie night. I'm so ugly :feelskek:
 
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I'm Polish / English but look completely anglo and have that friendly white guy phenotype. I don't look aggressive and my voice is too deep and monotone, yet also slightly nasally. I look like LTR material who will make her a bowl of popcorn on movie night. I'm so ugly :feelskek:
You're looking for fwb/slays?
 
u think your bad? imagine a cutecel ):, be grateful
Having my appearance is basically cutecel nowadays. Girls can easily get severe aggressive looking robust chads with tattoos so easily. They see guys who look like me as the guy to take them on 5 dates before they let me fuck them. They probably think I'm vanilla even though I would be more twisted and brutal sexually than anyone they've met :ogre:
 
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Having my appearance is basically cutecel nowadays. Girls can easily get severe aggressive looking robust chads with tattoos so easily. They see guys who look like me as the guy to take them on 5 dates before they let me fuck them. They probably think I'm vanilla even though I would be more twisted and brutal sexually than anyone they've met :ogre:
aaaahhh how tall are you? im also polish so maybe its our fate

also pm face
 
You're looking for fwb/slays?
FWB tbh. I want girls to see me and be satisfied with a brief, purely sexual relationship. I want to have sex appeal to girls, but rn I look like a fella who will take shyly request a date.
 
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FWB tbh. I want girls to see me and be satisfied with a brief, purely sexual relationship. I want to have sex appeal to girls, but rn I look like a fella who will take shyly request a date.
ironically fashionmaxx and stubblemaxx and dye hair with fluffy hair
 
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ironically fashionmaxx and stubblemaxx
I have, but I think I'm too boneless and have too much of a cucky high trust long face. I will fashionmaxx hard af though. Also, my facial hair is blonde which is giga failo. I'd ascend so hard with dark brown facial hair.

and dye hair with fluffy hair

Dye dark brown?
 
Just be med pheno theory

Dark hair, colorful eyes and dark eyebrows/lashes
 
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Girls used to tell me I looked cute when I was lean
 
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Just be med pheno theory

Dark hair, colorful eyes and dark eyebrows/lashes
It's law, especially in the UK. Any hint of nordcuck colouring past the age of 16 is such a failo unless you have extreme bones
 
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I can't imagine girls seeing me as a sexual being. I'm gymcelled, average height, tan, average face and maxxed in any ways, but I just don't have a sexual vibe. I'm not high energy enough. I'm monotone and depressed. Also, my hair isn't dark enough. Guys with blondeish light brown hair can't look sexy.

My eye area is too rounded as well, so, despite my naturally ideal brows and lashes, it just doesn't have that predator look to make girls wet. My jaw is average - a bit recessed and quite down grown. My midface is long as well.

Hopefully my eye area surgeries next summer can ascend me, combined with dying my hair dark brown.

How else can you gain sex appeal? Is it possible?
Healing from within will make you appealing
 
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same, but i can fix it easy, just need to grow up, lose fat and get more hair, atlanto med pheno carries me
 
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I think you're probably already looksmaxed
I kind of agree, and I have done more than 99% of this forum (veneers, tanning, clothing, skinmaxxing (to an extent)), but I still think I need better looks to compensate for my natural deficiencies. I've never felt "normal" - always been a loner, high inhib, unable to compel normies to wanna befriend me, despite efforts & being a friendly guy. When I consider all of these things, and then see my eyes, which are completely LTN standard and just haloed by brows and lashes, I feel like I must correct them. And blonde hair is just a failo in general sans bones imo
 
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I kind of agree, and I have done more than 99% of this forum (veneers, tanning, clothing, skinmaxxing (to an extent)), but I still think I need better looks to compensate for my natural deficiencies. I've never felt "normal" - always been a loner, high inhib, unable to compel normies to wanna befriend me, despite efforts & being a friendly guy. When I consider all of these things, and then see my eyes, which are completely LTN standard and just haloed by brows and lashes, I feel like I must correct them. And blonde hair is just a failo in general sans bones imo
You need to feel worthy first. Your hair colour probably is not holding you back. You can make a series of efforts to become more social and uninhibited and it will be difficult, but I don't think looks is the priority. That's the case for me too.
 
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I can't imagine girls seeing me as a sexual being. I'm gymcelled, average height, tan, average face and maxxed in any ways, but I just don't have a sexual vibe. I'm not high energy enough. I'm monotone and depressed. Also, my hair isn't dark enough. Guys with blondeish light brown hair can't look sexy.

My eye area is too rounded as well, so, despite my naturally ideal brows and lashes, it just doesn't have that predator look to make girls wet. My jaw is average - a bit recessed and quite down grown. My midface is long as well.

Hopefully my eye area surgeries next summer can ascend me, combined with dying my hair dark brown.

How else can you gain sex appeal? Is it possible?
i'll need to see an actual picture of your face in order to help you
 
You can make a series of efforts to become more social and uninhibited and it will be difficult, but I don't think looks is the priority. That's the case for me too.
But how do we do that? Like I said, I've put myself in social situations many, many times. I still do, although you're right I should do it even more. But just showing up there doesn't make normies like you. Even if I my hardest to match their energy, jokes and interests, they still seem to sense that I'm some kind of isolated freak, and I can tell they have no intention of inviting me into their world. So I feel like I have to make myself worthy physically for them to be more forgiving to my ND vibes. And I'm not some autistic freak either. I function well in professional and social settings. Yet, I feel like normies have a sixth sense for telling if you live a bit of a different lifestyle and have different interests and views :forcedsmile:
 
But how do we do that? Like I said, I've put myself in social situations many, many times. I still do, although you're right I should do it even more. But just showing up there doesn't make normies like you. Even if I my hardest to match their energy, jokes and interests, they still seem to sense that I'm some kind of isolated freak, and I can tell they have no intention of inviting me into their world. So I feel like I have to make myself worthy physically for them to be more forgiving to my ND vibes. And I'm not some autistic freak either. I function well in professional and social settings. Yet, I feel like normies have a sixth sense for telling if you live a bit of a different lifestyle and have different interests and views :forcedsmile:
I think you’ve done enough on the physical side. I think the best idea is to keep meeting new people and trying your best to stay present in the moment with people and to enjoy others company but don’t force anything. Meeting up around a shared interest or activity is always really good. Or just showing up around normies more will increase the chances of being invited places by them (in work or wherever). Try gamify it, as if you’re trying to maximise your luck socially.

Try viewing hanging around with normies as social looksmaxxing. I.e., 3 reps of talking with normies in the canteen or by the water cooler per week. Even if it kills you, it’s important and you need to force yourself to do it and natural relationships will come.

Don’t try force friendships though. But I’m just trying to emphasise that improving your looks any further probably won’t help out.

And you’re right about normies being intuitive and having a 6th sense about things, but you’re not a freak or a loner and I doubt others think that.

It starts with your thinking and a bit of action. Treat it like a game at the start.
 
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start acting like a loud disrespectful douchebag
 
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Try viewing hanging around with normies as social looksmaxxing. I.e., 3 reps of talking with normies in the canteen or by the water cooler per week. Even if it kills you, it’s important and you need to force yourself to do it and natural relationships will come.
I've done this for many years, but still I'm incel with no friends. Every girl I've ever had relations with came from cold approaching, I have never met girls the normal way through shared social circles or clubbing or the bar. It was all sober trying to be charming to get a phone number. I can talk to people fine, it's just something is lacking to where I don't make enough of an impression on people. There will always be some other normie who has more social proof they can choose instead it feels like.

That said, lately I have stopped trying to sharpen my social skills through random conversations etc., and my social anxiety has gone up and my social skills have waned. I will get back to social skills practice maxxing tomorrow because it's worth it just to stay sharp in case I do see a cool girl I want to approach, so thanks (y)
 
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start acting like a loud disrespectful douchebag
You can't disguise your natural temperament that easily. If I attempted to do that it would seem so unnatural, normies would assume I am having some kind of psychotic episode/mental health crisis. I'm a chill, friendly guy
 

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