I have the money for surgeries, what do I get?

[ducksoover]

Firstly, I'll point out my flaws and what I want to do to address them.

- long and crooked nose, RHINOPLASTY

- uneven/canted jaws, maxilla is tilted? someone let me know. Unsure how to address this flaw. It gives me assymetry.

-Bug eyes, PERIORBITAL IMPLANTS + FAT GRAFTING

-No zygo projection, ZYGO IMPLANTS

pls give me your thoughts

 

[flatcheck213]

Lefort 3

 

[ducksoover]

Lefort 3

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

 

[flatcheck213]

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

@Snicket @Ogionth @lurking truecel

 

[flatcheck213]

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

@Lefor3Laser fits the profile?

 

[Ogionth]

@Snicket @Ogionth @lurking truecel

that's gonna end badly

 

[Joaquin]

Firstly, I'll point out my flaws and what I want to do to address them.

- long and crooked nose, RHINOPLASTY

- uneven/canted jaws, maxilla is tilted? someone let me know. Unsure how to address this flaw. It gives me assymetry.

-Bug eyes, PERIORBITAL IMPLANTS + FAT GRAFTING

-No zygo projection, ZYGO IMPLANTS

pls give me your thoughts

loose weight too bro but yes those hardmaxes will ascend you

 

[flatcheck213]

loose weight too bro but yes those hardmaxes will ascend you

ascend him to gandys heaven

 

[jaymog]

LF3

BSSO+LF1, cheek implants, maybe rhino if needed but only after or during jaw surgery dependent on maxilla movement, and submentoplasty.

 

[ducksoover]

loose weight too bro but yes those hardmaxes will ascend you

I've cut down to 10% bodyfat before, I was still ugly. Being lean doesn't change my nose shape or fix my assyemtries or bug eyes. Sure I looked better, but still ugly.

 

[ducksoover]

LF3

BSSO+LF1, cheek implants, maybe rhino if needed but only after or during jaw surgery dependent on maxilla movement, and submentoplasty.

you didn't mention my biggest flaw, my eyes lol.

sorry but I can't take your analysis seriously.

 

[jaymog]

you didn't mention my biggest flaw, my eyes lol.

sorry but I can't take your analysis seriously.

Ungrateful and retarded? Deadly combo!

If you think you should tackle the eye area before doing Bimax which will massively improve sleep and thus the eye area, and cheek implants, then you’re even more retarded then I expected.

You don’t just go get 35 surgeries in one go, unless again you’re retarded (which is evident by your posts here so I guess go for it!), you get the biggest impact first, and then refine as needed.

Welp that’s it, no more helping you, you ungrateful Arabcel.

 

[Snicket]

you ungrateful Arabcel.

 

[Snicket]

that's gonna end badly

I agree. There's a story here and it doesn't have a happy ending.

 

[laworg]

Firstly, I'll point out my flaws and what I want to do to address them.

- long and crooked nose, RHINOPLASTY

- uneven/canted jaws, maxilla is tilted? someone let me know. Unsure how to address this flaw. It gives me assymetry.

-Bug eyes, PERIORBITAL IMPLANTS + FAT GRAFTING

-No zygo projection, ZYGO IMPLANTS

pls give me your thoughts

Give it to me ill tripple it

 

[copercel123]

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

You will fuck yourself up.

 

[Snicket]

You will fuck yourself up.

I disagree, trust Pepe the Frog surgeon with no medical license to plan your LeFort 3 osteotomy.
What can go wrong?

 

[ducksoover]

doing Bimax which will massively improve sleep and thus the eye area

Did you seriously suggest that fixing my death tier eyes with "better sleep broo" is going to work?

dude, I have negative orbital vector, droopy lower eyelid, upper eyelid exposure. NO amount of sleep will address these. Better sleep does not improve your eye area beyond your genetics. I just got unlucky.

The fact you are saying this just shows how low your IQ is.

 

[ducksoover]

Welp that’s it, no more helping you,

helping me? by not even mentioning my biggest flaw? LOL

 

[ducksoover]

You will fuck yourself up.

I guess I'll just wait and see.

 

[smashingdirty6s]

Did you seriously suggest that fixing my death tier eyes with "better sleep broo" is going to work?

dude, I have negative orbital vector, droopy lower eyelid, upper eyelid exposure. NO amount of sleep will address these. Better sleep does not improve your eye area beyond your genetics. I just got unlucky.

The fact you are saying this just shows how low your IQ is.

True retard cell right here. Hope u get botched badly

 

[jaymog]

Did you seriously suggest that fixing my death tier eyes with "better sleep broo" is going to work?

dude, I have negative orbital vector, droopy lower eyelid, upper eyelid exposure. NO amount of sleep will address these. Better sleep does not improve your eye area beyond your genetics. I just got unlucky.

The fact you are saying this just shows how low your IQ is.

I’ve had many more surgeries than you, you’d be surprised at how much other features on your face change or become a negative risk reward ratio from adjacent work.

You’d know this if your phenotype didn’t lend you to being a 56iq terrorist who is going to pay $40k to Pepe the frog to literally terminate your existence in the OR.

 

[Snicket]

56iq terrorist who is going to pay $40k to Pepe the frog to literally terminate your existence in the OR.

Never thought I'd see someone getting smoked by Buzz Light Year on here.

 

[ducksoover]

I’ve had many more surgeries than you, you’d be surprised at how much other features on your face change or become a negative risk reward ratio from adjacent work.

You’d know this if your phenotype didn’t lend you to being a 56iq terrorist who is going to pay $40k to Pepe the frog to literally terminate your existence in the OR.

You didn't address my point at all.

I take it that you're just trolling or incapable of having a proper conversation with someone.

You didn't address my biggest flaw because you're bad at analysing faces, that's all dude.

 

[ducksoover]

True retard cell right here. Hope u get botched badly

Anyone with a developed frontal cortex would see who's actually in the right here.

This dude actually suggested that getting a BIMAX will fix my eye area ?! LOL.

He's getting reinforcement because he used childish insults, wow I actually just reminded myself why I never took this forum full of tiktok kids seriously. This forum has gone to SHIT.

 

[jaymog]

Retard, your self perceived “biggest flaw” is literally covered up in red circles and nowhere did you mention this to be your top priority.

In my eyes as someone who’s undergone more surgery than you, your biggest flaw is multiple other points on your face.

Also JFL if you read all of the above and said IM the one who can’t have a civil conversation

 

[ducksoover]

Retard, your self perceived “biggest flaw” is literally covered up in red circles and nowhere did you mention this to be your top priority.

In my eyes as someone who’s undergone more surgery than you, your biggest flaw is multiple other points on your face.

Also JFL if you read all of the above and said IM the one who can’t have a civil conversation

I covered my pupils.. lol.. is this dude being serious? you can see all the flaws in my eye area. You are being disingenuous on purpose because you look stupid now.

and I didn't mention it being my top priority? that's because it's so damn obvious just looking at me. If you knew anything about facial aesthetics, the eye area is the most important and my eye area is straight trash.

How does having more surgery done than me mean anything? James sapphire had more surgery than you, does this mean he knows better?

I'm going to assume you're very young and I don't want to discuss anything with you further.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

What's your aesthetical goal tbh, to be a ken doll or to balance out what you can and live on your life?, chose one.

Cuz even a normal bimax could get you in many complications, so reconsider your thoughts, is it really worth it and necessary?

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I've cut down to 10% bodyfat before, I was still ugly. Being lean doesn't change my nose shape or fix my assyemtries or bug eyes. Sure I looked better, but still ugly.

Assymetry is impossible to fix, you make ur jaw symmetric , then you have ur cheekbones, you do your cheekbones, then you have temples and so on, just focus on what you can slowly.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I covered my pupils.. lol.. is this dude being serious? you can see all the flaws in my eye area. You are being disingenuous on purpose because you look stupid now.

and I didn't mention it being my top priority? that's because it's so damn obvious just looking at me. If you knew anything about facial aesthetics, the eye area is the most important and my eye area is straight trash.

How does having more surgery done than me mean anything? James sapphire had more surgery than you, does this mean he knows better?

I'm going to assume you're very young and I don't want to discuss anything with you further.

He is right tho, doing bimax could allow a better blood flow thus improving your eye area (depends).

James Sapphire is underage or was underage when he did those edits, so no, no surgeries done.

 

[Snicket]

He is right tho, doing bimax could allow a better blood flow thus improving your eye area (depends).

James Sapphire is underage or was underage when he did those edits, so no, no surgeries done.

The big issue is that many users think higher level osteotomies are chad affirming when they come with their own slew of cosmetic trade-offs that have to be managed.

The best LF3 result I have seen required multiple surgeries afterwards.

And even after all of that, she went from ugly to average looking.

“If she can go from ugly to normal, I can become Chad”

Users think surgeries yield linear improvements dependent on your starting point but that’s simply not the case in practice.

 

[LEFORT17]

I’ve had many more surgeries than you, you’d be surprised at how much other features on your face change or become a negative risk reward ratio from adjacent work.

You’d know this if your phenotype didn’t lend you to being a 56iq terrorist who is going to pay $40k to Pepe the frog to literally terminate your existence in the OR.

What have you done beside the bimax

 

[ducksoover]

He is right tho, doing bimax could allow a better blood flow thus improving your eye area (depends).

There is absolutely no way you people are suggesting that a BIMAX will fix my eye area, holy shit.

Why does anyone get work done on their eyes then? just get a bimax

how the fuck would better blood flow help with negative orbital vector and UEE?



BRAINLET FORUM

 

[sayso27]

I'm not joking when I say I actually contacted Giant for LF3.

he said $40k, I have the funds and I'm awaiting consultation.

I will be the first to undergo LF3 for cosmetic purposes in the world.

You don't need LF3, jesus christ, there's a reason why that shit is only performed on trauma victims whove had a car accident or some shit. just do LF1 + BSSO

 

[ducksoover]

You don't need LF3, jesus christ, there's a reason why that shit is only performed on trauma victims whove had a car accident or some shit. just do LF1 + BSSO

as for eye area, would periorbital implants be enough?

what about periorbital fat grafting? less chance of infection and revisions would be easier?

as for zygos, what do i need to do?

 

[Lefor3Laser]

The big issue is that many users think higher level osteotomies are chad affirming when they come with their own slew of cosmetic trade-offs that have to be managed.

I agree, they usually forget how many trade offs they do and forget how many risks are there, osteotomies themselves are very limited (to not look uncanny) and for higher cut osteotomies is even more limited.

Yes i remember seeing the thread with the girl wich had lf 3 then a normal bimax, those surgeries aren't magic bullets and are meant for normalization (what she reached afterwards with the surgeries).

But i would think that she got at least 1 or 2 complications (nerve damage for example).

Users think surgeries yield linear improvements dependent on your starting point but that’s simply not the case in practice.

Yes because they don't keep in mind that those surgeries are for normalization, even if they were reccesed (many aren't on this forum), they are recessed 1 or 2 mm's, is it worth it to undergo a risky surgery over a small change?, they can go and fix other failos (if they do have them)

 

[Lefor3Laser]

There is absolutely no way you people are suggesting that a BIMAX will fix my eye area, holy shit.

Why does anyone get work done on their eyes then? just get a bimax

how the fuck would better blood flow help with negative orbital vector and UEE?



BRAINLET FORUM

One is fixing forever and the other is to make it better, i never said get bimax to get blue eyes type of response.

If you had read closely what i've written your response could have been much better, i am here to help and not insult, if you want help then let's keep it respectul.

 

[Snicket]

I agree, they usually forget how many trade offs they do and forget how many risks are there, osteotomies themselves are very limited (to not look uncanny) and for higher cut osteotomies is even more limited.

Yes i remember seeing the thread with the girl wich had lf 3 then a normal bimax, those surgeries aren't magic bullets and are meant for normalization (what she reached afterwards with the surgeries).

But i would think that she got at least 1 or 2 complications (nerve damage for example).

Yes because they don't keep in mind that those surgeries are for normalization, even if they were reccesed (many aren't on this forum), they are recessed 1 or 2 mm's, is it worth it to undergo a risky surgery over a small change?, they can go and fix other failos (if they do have them)

I remember one guy with crouzon’s syndrome getting LF3 on Reddit and complaining that the result was underwhelming!

It was clear he also needed bimax and further soft cosmetic procedures to match his expectations.

There are few silver bullers in this life.

If you’re not good looking before surgery, odds are you will stay that way with maybe some marginal improvements.

You can’t make a silk purse of out of a sow’s ear!

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I remember one guy with crouzon’s syndrome getting LF3 on Reddit and complaining that the result was underwhelming!

It was clear he also needed bimax and further soft cosmetic procedures to match his expectations.

There are few silver bullers in this life.

If you’re not good looking before surgery, odds are you will stay that way with maybe some marginal improvements.

You can’t make a silk purse of out of a sow’s ear!

The guy with the device on his face?, if that's him, yes i've seen his result and it looks underwhelming.

I agree with the rest.

 

[Snicket]

The guy with the device on his face?, if that's him, yes i've seen his result and it looks underwhelming.

No, the guy deleted the original post.
Some user might have posted the result here though but can’t readily find it.

 

[ducksoover]

One is fixing forever and the other is to make it better, i never said get bimax to get blue eyes type of response.

If you had read closely what i've written your response could have been much better, i am here to help and not insult, if you want help then let's keep it respectul.

I'm sorry dude but like i said, bimax will not fix my eye area. I'm talking about the other poster who said so and started calling ME retarded.

 

[jaymog]

I'm sorry dude but like i said, bimax will not fix my eye area. I'm talking about the other poster who said so and started calling ME retarded.

All anyone here has done is suggest things that would help you, tell you to tick off a few bang for your buck procedures that are more routine, see how you feel after them and how they impact other areas of the face before doing more niche surgeries….

….and all you’ve done is legit have a temper tantrum about your eye area while saying the forum is filled with idiot tik tokers.

Like @Lefor3Laser said, you aren’t even reading the responses closely before firing off tantrum responses.

 

[Snicket]

All anyone here has done is suggest things that would help you, tell you to tick off a few bang for your buck procedures that are more routine, see how you feel after them and how they impact other areas of the face before doing more niche surgeries….

Funny thing is that bimax doesn’t preclude doing a higher level osteotemy at all in the future. Different parts of the maxilla can be mobilized in separate surgeries if necessary.

….and all you’ve done is legit have a temper tantrum about your eye area while saying the forum is filled with idiot tik tokers.

Like @Lefor3Laser said, you aren’t even reading the responses closely before firing off tantrum responses.

 

[ducksoover]

All anyone here has done is suggest things that would help you, tell you to tick off a few bang for your buck procedures that are more routine, see how you feel after them and how they impact other areas of the face before doing more niche surgeries….

….and all you’ve done is legit have a temper tantrum about your eye area while saying the forum is filled with idiot tik tokers.

Like @Lefor3Laser said, you aren’t even reading the responses closely before firing off tantrum responses.

bro you told me a bimax would fix my eye area gtfo

 

[ducksoover]

and look, i will consult with the surgeons and then consider his recommendations, as for now, there doesn't seem to be any good input on this thread

 

[jaymog]

Funny thing is that bimax doesn’t preclude doing a higher level osteotemy at all in the future. Different parts of the maxilla can be mobilized in separate surgeries if necessary.

Precisely. All I ever told this guy was that he for sure could use Bimax and cheeks implants, maybe rhino during the surgery if his surgeon can do both and if the maxilla movement isn’t large enough to positively impact the nose, and to see how his eye area improves from this.

obviously it won’t impact bone but many people have positive eye area soft tissue and blood flow changes after Bimax. Combined with a submentoplasty, he might find he looks 90% of the way to his goal, and riskier procedures around the eyes might not become a favorable risk reward.

And yet here we are

 

[jaymog]

bro you told me a bimax would fix my eye area gtfo

See, again, this is just you not taking the time to actually read what people are writing.

 

[Snicket]

and look, i will consult with the surgeons and then consider his recommendations, as for now, there doesn't seem to be any good input on this thread

It’s not complicated.
Bimax + infraorbital rim implants + rhinoplasty due alar base enlargement.

Maybe under-eye fat grafts.

That’s a lot.

I would only consider surgeries that directly cut into the orbitals if you’re still dissatisfied with the results.

 

[jaymog]

bro you told me a bimax would fix my eye area gtfo

I said:

massively improve sleep and thus the eye area

Nowhere did I say fix, simply improve, and then:

You’d be surprised at how much other features on your face change or become a negative risk reward ratio from adjacent work.

Followed by:

You don’t just go get 35 surgeries in one go

Again, you just can’t or don’t want to take the time to read.

If you’re the expert seasoned facial reconstructive surgeon who knows so much about what you need, stop begging on forums for advice. If you knew anything you wouldn’t be here asking.

 

[ducksoover]

Nowhere did I say fix, simply improve, and then:

it literally wouldn't, like at all