I have totally left the disgusting religion of islam

[Htnn]

Cognitive dissonance.

Nothing Really Hard to Understand. The Only Source is Quran.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

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[Part-Time Chad]

I hope this doesn't mean you're turning into a libshit.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

İslam Doesn't Allow Child Marriage. İt Would Be A Horrible Sin That You'd 100% Go To Hell. However, There Are Some Made Up Hadiths Claiming Our Prophet Married A Child. (Which İs not True) İn İslam, İf A Hadidth Doesn't Match With The Quran, İt Means That Hadith is Made Up. We Don't Take Hadiths As a Source. The Only Source İn İslam İs The Holy Quran. The Hadith Book İs Almost Completely Corrupted. So İt Got Nothing To Do With İslam.

Sura 66 makes it clear you can slay children, according to Quran there’s no age of consent dude and you know it don’t play dumb.

He did marry a child it’s not one Hadith it’s multiple and yes even Shia sources back up this claim

Both sahih mulsim and sahih bukhari from various authors say she was 9

And now Shia sources state the same and some Shia sources say Fatima was 9 years old lol.

In Al-Fadl ibn al-Hasan al-Tabrisi it says
Al-Tabarsi (d. 1153 CE)” In his famous Quranic exegesis Majma al-Bayan, he referenced Sunni reports, including narrations that suggested Aisha was a child at the time of consummation.


2. Al-Allama Al-Hilli (d. 1325 CE) “ While not focusing extensively on Aisha’s age, he referenced Sunni narrations that reported she was around 9 years old.


3. Other classical Shia scholars often transmitted or acknowledged Sunni reports on this issue, but they usually did not emphasize Aishas age since her marriage was not as central in Shia theology compared to Sunni discourse.


Don’t you find it funny how the 2 Shia scholars which disagree with this are from 2007 and 2010

Isn’t that funny

Meanwhile the ones from the 12 and 14th century state that she was child and agree with Sunni sources

 

[Htnn]

Sura 66 makes it clear you can slay children, according to Quran there’s no age of consent dude and you know it don’t play dumb.

He did marry a child it’s not one Hadith it’s multiple and yes even Shia sources back up this claim

Both sahih mulsim and sahih bukhari from various authors say she was 9

And now Shia sources state the same and some Shia sources say Fatima was 9 years old lol.

In Al-Fadl ibn al-Hasan al-Tabrisi it says
Al-Tabarsi (d. 1153 CE)” In his famous Quranic exegesis Majma al-Bayan, he referenced Sunni reports, including narrations that suggested Aisha was a child at the time of consummation.


2. Al-Allama Al-Hilli (d. 1325 CE) “ While not focusing extensively on Aisha’s age, he referenced Sunni narrations that reported she was around 9 years old.


3. Other classical Shia scholars often transmitted or acknowledged Sunni reports on this issue, but they usually did not emphasize Aishas age since her marriage was not as central in Shia theology compared to Sunni discourse.


Don’t you find it funny how the 2 Shia scholars which disagree with this are from 2007 and 2010

Isn’t that funny

Meanwhile the ones from the 12 and 14th century state that she was child and agree with Sunni sources

Don't Think You Get it. The Most Strongly Considered Hadith Book (Sakikh Buhari) Has So Many Fantastic Stories İn İt That Neither Matches With The Psyhics/Laws Nor With The Quran. We Don't Care What Scholars Or Denominations Say About İslam. We Are Supposed To Only Care About The Quran. Some Sources Say She Was 9 Years Old While Some Say 6. While Allah Says İn The Quran "Who İs More Cruel Than One That Makes Up Lies About Me (11/18)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Don't Think You Get it. The Most Strongly Considered Hadith Book (Sakikh Buhari) Has So Many Fantastic Stories İn İt That Neither Matches With The Psyhics/Laws Nor With The Quran. We Don't Care What Scholars Or Denominations Say About İslam. We Are Supposed To Only Care About The Quran. Some Sources Say She Was 9 Years Old While Some Say 6. While Allah Says İn The Quran "Who İs More Cruel Than One That Makes Up Lies About Me (11/18)

At so you’re a Muslim Protestant

Ok then tell me who were Mohammed’s Sahaba?

How do you follow the Sunna without Islamic traditions of Hadith


As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.

Your greatest Islamic expositor of the verse Ibn Kathir

QURAN LETS YOU FUCK KIDS

 

[Htnn]

At so you’re a Muslim Protestant

Ok then tell me who were Mohammed’s Sahaba?

How do you follow the Sunna without Islamic traditions of Hadith


As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.

Your greatest Islamic expositor of the verse Ibn Kathir
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QURAN LETS YOU FUCK KIDS

The first thing that needs to be reminded to those who attack our Prophet by using the age of Hazrat Aisha as an excuse and claim that child marriage is allowed in the Quran is that the provisions will only be learned from the Quran and that they should not give credit to sources that are not in agreement with the Quran. Allah says, "We have not left anything out in the book..." (Surah An'am, 38). In the Quran, which is complete, of course, the time of an important issue such as marriage is also mentioned.

Try the orphans until they reach the age of marriage; If you see any maturity in them, give them their property immediately. .. (Surah Nisa, 6)

“Do not approach the orphan's property - except in the most beautiful (way) - until he reaches the age of puberty…” (Surah An'am, 152)

If you read the verses carefully, it says to try the orphans "until they reach the age of marriage". If you see "maturity" in them, give them their property, he says. In the second verse, it is said not to touch the orphan's property except in the most beautiful way "until he reaches the age of maturity when he can control his property." A small child does not know the concept of money. He does not know what savings are, what is affordable shopping, and in which area he can increase his money by investing it. If you give the child money, he will either buy candy or chocolate with it. Therefore, the age at which he will control his property is not the age of physical maturity, but the age of mental maturity. Likewise, the age at which they will reach marriage is not the adolescence period when they reach physical maturity, but the adolescence/youth period when they reach mental maturity and can control their property.

The word "rushden" is used in the verse. It means that men and women must be "of age".

“Rushd: The ability to find the right path
Rashid: The person who shows the right path to others.
Rashid: A person who has the capacity to come to the right path.
Mürşid: "The one who guides, educates and enlightens"

Mehir is the money or property that a man gives to a woman when he marries in Islamic Law. Mehir is given directly to the woman, not to the woman's family. According to the above verses, the age at which goods are delivered to their owner is the age at which that person can control his property. Therefore, the woman who receives dower must be of an age where she can control this property or money.

Hz. Claims that Ayşe married at the age of 6-9 do not comply with the age specified for marriage in the Quran. The marriage age indicated in the Quran is fully compatible with the age limit in our current Civil Code. Also Hz. Bukhari, the addressee of the sources where Aysha's age is narrated, lived 238 years after our prophet, Muslim 243 years, Tirmidhi 260 years, Abu Dawud 256 years, Nasai 238 years, Ibn Maja 263 years. Hz. Ayşe's age is reported as 6 in some sources, 9 in some sources, and 18 in some sources. In general, the reference for marriage age is the Quran. The Quran marks the age of mental maturity for marriage.
However, ignoring this clear evidence, some atheists claim that the phrase "not menstruating" in verse 4 of Surah Talak refers to a small child.

“If you hesitate about the iddah of those among your women who have stopped menstruating (entering menopause), their iddah period is three months. The periods of those who do not menstruate are also like this. The iddah of pregnant women ends when they give birth to their children. "Whoever fears God and protects himself from disobeying Him, God will make it easy for him in his work." (Talak, 4)

The waiting period for women who have stopped menstruating, that is, who have entered the menopause period, is 3 months. Why wait 3 months? To find out if you are pregnant. Can a child who does not menstruate become pregnant? No. Then there is no need to wait 3 months. A woman who becomes pregnant does not menstruate. However, it takes time to realize that you are pregnant. For women in this situation, the waiting period is 3 months. Those who are certain of pregnancy wait until birth.

The expression 'vellai lem yahidne', which is translated as girls who have not menstruated in the translations, is the condition called "secondary amenorrhea" medically. In other words, it refers to women who do not menstruate because their menstrual cycle is disrupted (who normally menstruate but do not menstruate for a period of 3 months or more for various reasons).



In verse 4 of Surah Talak, the expression "not yet menstruated" is not mentioned in some translations. In order to say that she has not yet menstruated, the word "ellaaiii lemma yahidne" must be mentioned.

Lem: It means that it will never happen, or it has never happened.

Lemma: It means that it has not happened yet but will happen.

The word "Nisa" in the verse is a word used for adult women. If the person who did not menstruate was a child, then the words "Vildan, Veled, Benat..." should have been mentioned. However, the word "Nisa", which describes adult women, is mentioned in the verse.

As a result, the Quran does not allow child marriage. Only societies far from the Quran practice this type of wrong practice. Due to wrong and deliberate translations, atheists and bigots claim that Islam allows child marriage. Children are beings that need compassion, no one can find evidence from the Quran for their perverted views.

 

[Htnn]

At so you’re a Muslim Protestant

Ok then tell me who were Mohammed’s Sahaba?

How do you follow the Sunna without Islamic traditions of Hadith


As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.

Your greatest Islamic expositor of the verse Ibn Kathir
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QURAN LETS YOU FUCK KIDS

İts Over For The

At so you’re a Muslim Protestant

Ok then tell me who were Mohammed’s Sahaba?

How do you follow the Sunna without Islamic traditions of Hadith


As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.

Your greatest Islamic expositor of the verse Ibn Kathir
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QURAN LETS YOU FUCK KIDS

Anyway İts Over For The Copecels

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The first thing that needs to be reminded to those who attack our Prophet by using the age of Hazrat Aisha as an excuse and claim that child marriage is allowed in the Quran is that the provisions will only be learned from the Quran and that they should not give credit to sources that are not in agreement with the Quran. Allah says, "We have not left anything out in the book..." (Surah An'am, 38). In the Quran, which is complete, of course, the time of an important issue such as marriage is also mentioned.

Try the orphans until they reach the age of marriage; If you see any maturity in them, give them their property immediately. .. (Surah Nisa, 6)

“Do not approach the orphan's property - except in the most beautiful (way) - until he reaches the age of puberty…” (Surah An'am, 152)

If you read the verses carefully, it says to try the orphans "until they reach the age of marriage". If you see "maturity" in them, give them their property, he says. In the second verse, it is said not to touch the orphan's property except in the most beautiful way "until he reaches the age of maturity when he can control his property." A small child does not know the concept of money. He does not know what savings are, what is affordable shopping, and in which area he can increase his money by investing it. If you give the child money, he will either buy candy or chocolate with it. Therefore, the age at which he will control his property is not the age of physical maturity, but the age of mental maturity. Likewise, the age at which they will reach marriage is not the adolescence period when they reach physical maturity, but the adolescence/youth period when they reach mental maturity and can control their property.

The word "rushden" is used in the verse. It means that men and women must be "of age".

“Rushd: The ability to find the right path
Rashid: The person who shows the right path to others.
Rashid: A person who has the capacity to come to the right path.
Mürşid: "The one who guides, educates and enlightens"

Mehir is the money or property that a man gives to a woman when he marries in Islamic Law. Mehir is given directly to the woman, not to the woman's family. According to the above verses, the age at which goods are delivered to their owner is the age at which that person can control his property. Therefore, the woman who receives dower must be of an age where she can control this property or money.

Hz. Claims that Ayşe married at the age of 6-9 do not comply with the age specified for marriage in the Quran. The marriage age indicated in the Quran is fully compatible with the age limit in our current Civil Code. Also Hz. Bukhari, the addressee of the sources where Aysha's age is narrated, lived 238 years after our prophet, Muslim 243 years, Tirmidhi 260 years, Abu Dawud 256 years, Nasai 238 years, Ibn Maja 263 years. Hz. Ayşe's age is reported as 6 in some sources, 9 in some sources, and 18 in some sources. In general, the reference for marriage age is the Quran. The Quran marks the age of mental maturity for marriage.
However, ignoring this clear evidence, some atheists claim that the phrase "not menstruating" in verse 4 of Surah Talak refers to a small child.

“If you hesitate about the iddah of those among your women who have stopped menstruating (entering menopause), their iddah period is three months. The periods of those who do not menstruate are also like this. The iddah of pregnant women ends when they give birth to their children. "Whoever fears God and protects himself from disobeying Him, God will make it easy for him in his work." (Talak, 4)

The waiting period for women who have stopped menstruating, that is, who have entered the menopause period, is 3 months. Why wait 3 months? To find out if you are pregnant. Can a child who does not menstruate become pregnant? No. Then there is no need to wait 3 months. A woman who becomes pregnant does not menstruate. However, it takes time to realize that you are pregnant. For women in this situation, the waiting period is 3 months. Those who are certain of pregnancy wait until birth.

The expression 'vellai lem yahidne', which is translated as girls who have not menstruated in the translations, is the condition called "secondary amenorrhea" medically. In other words, it refers to women who do not menstruate because their menstrual cycle is disrupted (who normally menstruate but do not menstruate for a period of 3 months or more for various reasons).



In verse 4 of Surah Talak, the expression "not yet menstruated" is not mentioned in some translations. In order to say that she has not yet menstruated, the word "ellaaiii lemma yahidne" must be mentioned.

Lem: It means that it will never happen, or it has never happened.

Lemma: It means that it has not happened yet but will happen.

The word "Nisa" in the verse is a word used for adult women. If the person who did not menstruate was a child, then the words "Vildan, Veled, Benat..." should have been mentioned. However, the word "Nisa", which describes adult women, is mentioned in the verse.

As a result, the Quran does not allow child marriage. Only societies far from the Quran practice this type of wrong practice. Due to wrong and deliberate translations, atheists and bigots claim that Islam allows child marriage. Children are beings that need compassion, no one can find evidence from the Quran for their perverted views.

The joke is you can’t even say her age or who she was because you don’t have a tradition to follow . Also I’m not reading that essay book sorry just answer the question so your silly point is that it’s nebulous meaning… and yet the Sahaba and all Islamic sources state she was a kid (Aisha) so yes you can fuck kiddies

She isn’t even mentioned in the Quran so your “refutation” fails to begin with LOL

And yes Quran does allow sex with kids that’s why Muslims can and do, do it and why sharia law historically has allowed for it and why today Iraq has lowered AOC to 9.

You can make the cope and try to say it’s nebulous but the reality is… NOBODY UNTIL THE MODERN ERA HAS MADE THESE CRINGE ARGUMENTS SO YES YOUR PROPHET IS A PEODPHILE

BUT I will concede that yes many MODERN Quran only Kafir scholars lile
Yourself for example because you are a Kafir dog deny Hadith like the kafir Dayouth you are, deny this being about prepubescents… even though that’s what the word says lol

Even the word “Nisa” is subjective and we know they considered “Kids” adults in instances so yeah no issue here

The word Lem and Lemma I agree does mean “Not mensutuated” but how does this help your point?… not having menstuated is normal for a prepubescent. There’s a reason why Islamic scholars all agreed this was about prepubescents you absolute idiot I have no idea how this would help you in any way?

 

[Htnn]

The joke is you can’t even say her age or who she was because you don’t have a tradition to follow . Also I’m not reading that essay book sorry just answer the question so your silly point is that it’s nebulous meaning… and yet the Sahaba and all Islamic sources state she was a kid (Aisha) so yes you can fuck kiddies

She isn’t even mentioned in the Quran so your “refutation” fails to begin with LOL

And yes Quran does allow sex with kids that’s why Muslims can and do, do it and why sharia law historically has allowed for it and why today Iraq has lowered AOC to 9.

You can make the cope and try to say it’s nebulous but the reality is… NOBODY UNTIL THE MODERN ERA HAS MADE THESE CRINGE ARGUMENTS SO YES YOUR PROPHET IS A PEODPHILE

BUT I will concede that yes many MODERN Quran only Kafir scholars lile
Yourself for example because you are a Kafir dog deny Hadith like the kafir Dayouth you are, deny this being about prepubescents… even though that’s what the word says lol

Bro Arguing With Me Without Bothering To Read My Post... Can You Even Bring Me A Verse From The Quran That Allows Child Marriage

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Bro Arguing With Me Without Bothering To Read My Post... Can You Even Bring Me A Verse From The Quran That Allows Child Marriage

That’s the verse and your scholars (not modern liberal scholars but REAL MUSLIM
SCHOLARS WHO I TRUST TO BE MORE ACCURATE THAN YOI STATE AS MUCH)

In Islam there isn’t an AOC. Neither is there in the Bible, but the difference is if the girl hits her Menses in islam she is fair game, but then again 65:4 makes it very clear if girls haven’t hit their menses she is also GAME and no it’s not referring to Old people but to those with disability and children. So yes it allows this and aligns with the Tasfirs who know more than you and modern Muslim COPERS, and aligns with the Hadiths.

Reality Aisha was a kid, Mohammed fucked a kid and Quran allows you to fuck kids even before their menses. It is what it is this is your religion if you’re embarrassed fuck right off

Now the real question is why should I even listen to you? Why and who gave you authority over the ancient Islamic expositors such as Ibn Kathir and who gave you authority above that of the Sahaba and Hadith collections? WHO TF ARE YOU?

You are nobody that’s who and what you are you are nought but a coper. Follow the Sunna of Allah your Quran says follow the ways of the prophet…. OH YEAH YOU CANNNOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE HADITHS LOL


MUSLIM PROTESTANTS ARE AS COOKED AS CHRISTIAN ONES BUT AT LEAST CHRISTIAN ONES HAVE SOME ARGUMENTS and don’t REJECT THE CHRUCH FATHERS (well they do a little bit )

 

[Htnn]

That’s the verse and your scholars (not modern liberal scholars but REAL MUSLIM
SCHOLARS WHO I TRUST TO BE MORE ACCURATE THAN YOI STATE AS MUCH)

In Islam there isn’t an AOC. Neither is there in the Bible, but the difference is if the girl hits her Menses in islam she is fair game, but then again 65:4 makes it very clear if girls haven’t hit their menses she is also GAME and no it’s not referring to Old people but to those with disability and children. So yes it allows this and aligns with the Tasfirs who know more than you and modern Muslim COPERS, and aligns with the Hadiths.

Reality Aisha was a kid, Mohammed fucked a kid and Quran allows you to fuck kids even before their menses. It is what it is this is your religion if you’re embarrassed fuck right off

Now the real question is why should I even listen to you? Why and who gave you authority over the ancient Islamic expositors such as Ibn Kathir and who gave you authority above that of the Sahaba and Hadith collections? WHO TF ARE YOU?

You are nobody that’s who and what you are you are nought but a coper. Follow the Sunna of Allah your Quran says follow the ways of the prophet…. OH YEAH YOU CANNNOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE HADITHS LOL


MUSLIM PROTESTANTS ARE AS COOKED AS CHRISTIAN ONES BUT AT LEAST CHRISTIAN ONES HAVE SOME ARGUMENTS and don’t REJECT THE CHRUCH FATHERS (well they do a little bit )

I Knew The Only Verse You Could Come Up İs 65:4 So, I Already Explained 65:4 İn My Essay You Are So Pathetic. You Once Again, Failed to Refute Me Also, I Mentioned Those Hadidths. Stop Embarrasing Yourself. You've Gone Way Too Much Embarrasing Yourself. I Felt So Bad For You. İmagine Being Debunked But Still Poping Off Like This "" And Not Bothering To Read The Answer. Bro İs Still Bringing Up Already Debunked Arguments. And As A Base, All He Could Bring İs Some Made Up Fake Hadiths And Denomination Scholars. (Seriously, Stop it!)
We Muslims Mission İs, to Read Quran And Apply İt To Our Lifestyle. And Don't Forget, Put This İnfo İnto Your Non-Exsiting Brain. There is no "Sunnah" Our Prophet Only Has One Sunnah And That is The Holy Quran Book. Hadiths Are Not A Guidance. The Only Guidance İs Quran. Hadiths Only Talks About Our Prophets Life Or Gives Us Small Tips.
Yeah Bro Denomiantion Who The Fuck Does Bro Think He is? As İf Bro Lived 1400 Years Ago And Witnessed Muhammad's Life. Seriously, Get The Fuck Off. You Argue Without Knowing A Shit. Nobody Would Take You Seriously And Argue With You That Long.



My Last Advice to you Get The Fuck out And Go Read My Previous Long Post. I Explained Everything İn There.

You Can Still Pop Off Tho. I'd Be Pleasured To See You Barking. Im Looking Forward To İt.
We Can Keep Arguing.