I invite all of you to accept islam if yall are sincere

Never been interested in religion
You dont need to be interested, if something is the truth you have to follow it its not like were following this for fun. but its simply the truth.
 
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Iam serious. If you really have interest DM me ill refute every doubt. Also how is that hadith bad? Yall looksmaxx mfers literally only live for women? What do you expect in women? Males like females thats how God created us of course you can have females in paradise lol. DM
Nigga who are you preaching to lol I'm agreeing with you. Thats one of the few things I respect about Islam. What you don't get here you'll get in Jannah if you live "righteously". Sounds like a better deal than the Christian heaven
 
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Nigga who are you preaching to lol I'm agreeing with you. Thats one of the few things I respect about Islam. What you don't get here you'll get in Jannah if you live "righteously". Sounds like a better deal than the Christian heaven
Okay because it seemed like sarcasm, if you want read the quran
 
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its not my job to convert every single one here and some will never accept no matter what you give them but if youre interested i can explain it so dm me
Why not explain it here? your message would reach more people and the ones who truly want to learn would benefit
 
Its been almost 3 weeks that i reverted now. And i ask all of you. Especially the suicidal depressed people that think theres no hope. Please. I know i will get mocked, , insulted and made fun of but please. If you are sincere and dont want to risk your afterlife with eternal hell fire please read the Quran. There is no doubt about it.
I read the quran and then i had sex with muhammad and allah and impregnated allah with my chadlite semen
 
youve choosen it
he already decreed it
you've contradicted yourself in the same sentence, if it's already been decreed (and you cant change Qadr) then you have no choice in the matter.

Qadr: refers to God's predetermined decree, the universal law that governs all things. It is believed to be absolute and unchangeable.

the definition of Qadr literally shoots down the concept of free will. everything is predetermined.
 
Its been almost 3 weeks that i reverted now. And i ask all of you. Especially the suicidal depressed people that think theres no hope. Please. I know i will get mocked, , insulted and made fun of but please. If you are sincere and dont want to risk your afterlife with eternal hell fire please read the Quran. There is no doubt about it.
No thanks, I do have common sense
 
If Allah already knows every choice you will make with absolute certainty then those choices must be fixed and unavoidableotherwise Allah’s knowledge would be wrong
why are you acting like you can comprehend this?

god is real, and his simplest concept is something far beyond our understanding, the same way we're above animals but we have a set range above them, god doesnt

that applies to every religion that believes that god is all powerful unlike hinduism in which gods can be slain :lul:
 
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why are you acting like you can comprehend this?

god is real, and his simplest concept is something far beyond our understanding, the same way we're above animals but we have a set range above them, god doesnt

that applies to every religion that believes that god is all powerful unlike hinduism in which gods can be slain :lul:
Saying that God's nature is beyond human understanding while asserting his reality is contradictory you cant meaningfully affirm the existence of something while also claiming its fundamentally incomprehensible
If Gods concept is beyond us then any statement about his existence or nature becomes speculative at best
 
you've contradicted yourself in the same sentence, if it's already been decreed (and you cant change Qadr) then you have no choice in the matter.

Qadr: refers to God's predetermined decree, the universal law that governs all things. It is believed to be absolute and unchangeable.

the definition of Qadr literally shoots down the concept of free will. everything is predetermined.
This is not contradictionary if you would actually understand what i said and its even more crazy that you and the other dude didnt even read one single aqeedah book in your life yet trying to do something here.
 
No thanks, I do have common sense
Common sense ah yes! youre right! rather believe in nothing and everything is random or in a contradictionary trinity lol!
 
What the fuck is this site?:lul:How can you be blackpilled and believe in this :forcedsmile:
 
Common sense ah yes! youre right! rather believe in nothing and everything is random or in a contradictionary trinity lol!
It isn't like your alternative is much better. I rather believe in empirical evidence, observable, measurable, replicable, not based on faith, but in what we can confirm.

I cannot trust anything else, considering everybody is saying completely different things, attacking each other, and even contradicting themselves. If you believe your religion has more weight than Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc., then you're just dumb, your religion is not special, you believe on it because of the environment you grew into, your religion has as much evidence as any other: NONE.

Scientific understanding is far from perfect or complete, but at least it doesn't try to fill in the knowledge gaps with mysticism and fantasy. Believe what you want and let other people be, your beliefs are not unique or any more right than anybody else's.
 
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What the fuck is this site?:lul:How can you be blackpilled and believe in this :forcedsmile:
How does that have anything to do with religion and god? Yes, genetics and looks are very very important in your Overall life lol. How does this contradict the idea of god?
 
How does that have anything to do with religion and god? Yes, genetics and looks are very very important in your Overall life lol. How does this contradict the idea of god?
Oh my fucking god i just cant do this shit anymore
 
It isn't like your alternative is much better. I rather believe in empirical evidence, observable, measurable, replicable, not based on faith, but in what we can confirm.

I cannot trust anything else, considering everybody is saying completely different things, attacking each other, and even contradicting themselves. If you believe your religion has more weight than Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc., then you're just dumb, your religion is not special, you believe on it because of the environment you grew into, your religion has as much evidence as any other: NONE.

Scientific understanding is far from perfect or complete, but at least it doesn't try to fill in the knowledge gaps with mysticism and fantasy

First of for starters, science doesnt contradict religion atleast not islam it actually compliments it. Second of all no. We dont believe in islam because of "Faith" if youre talking about evidence then without a doubt if youre not biased, stubborn or arrogant you will clearly see that islam has much more evidence than any other religion so its not "Faith" so yes, its special if you have zero knowledge about islam why act like you already studied it? Third, science is just a way to understand the current reality to test things which are visible to the eyes but science constantly changes, any new discovery can refute the old scientific believe and like ive mentioned bevore science and islam are not in battle with each other.
 
Okay nigger. If allah exists i want him to drown for making me a subhuman:p:p:p
Allah formed you with uglyness and defects and yes, he knows u will get rejected. Though instead of crying about it and start killing yourself maybe see why youre here in the first place
 
Allah formed you with uglyness and defects and yes, he knows u will get rejected. Though instead of crying about it and start killing yourself maybe see why youre here in the first place
Im here to violently plunge my BBIIC(BIG BROWN IRANIAN INCEL COCK) into virgin beckies
 
Btw i will continue answering some questions but i will soon delete this acc and never come back so if someone wants to DM then be fast
 
Saying that God's nature is beyond human understanding while asserting his reality is contradictory you cant meaningfully affirm the existence of something while also claiming its fundamentally incomprehensible
If Gods concept is beyond us then any statement about his existence or nature becomes speculative at best
These is from your own reasoning and logic btw
 
No, he created mankind and jinn to only worship him alone.
But why are my instincts telling me to SCHLOMP:love: beckies:love: with my BBIIC:love: then? I dont want to worship a random guy who made my life suffering while others are winning(n):p
 
Saying that God's nature is beyond human understanding while asserting his reality is contradictory you cant meaningfully affirm the existence of something while also claiming its fundamentally incomprehensible
If Gods concept is beyond us then any statement about his existence or nature becomes speculative at best
These are from your own reasoning and logic btw
 
First of for starters, science doesnt contradict religion atleast not islam it actually compliments it. Second of all no. We dont believe in islam because of "Faith" if youre talking about evidence then without a doubt if youre not biased, stubborn or arrogant you will clearly see that islam has much more evidence than any other religion so its not "Faith" so yes, its special if you have zero knowledge about islam why act like you already studied it? Third, science is just a way to understand the current reality to test things which are visible to the eyes but science constantly changes, any new discovery can refute the old scientific believe and like ive mentioned bevore science and islam are not in battle with each other.
First, yes, many claims in the book of the Quran escape scientific understanding, I don't think you can reliably part a sea or turn objects into animals. Also yeah, maybe the book does make some claims that, if you interpret them VERY LIBERALLY, could fit into scientific concepts or modern theories, but that's as far as it goes.

Second, virtually every religion claims to be the "true" one and each presents its own kind of “evidence” to support that claim. You mentioned that your religion isn't based on faith and that it has "more evidence than any other religion", guess how many times I've heard that one from Christians before? :lul: Actually, only 3 guys, but you get the point, that's still a lot.

The issue is that much of the “evidence” used by different religions is vague, anecdotal, or coincidental, not scientific or independently verifiable. You cannot claim that your religion’s evidence is strong while dismissing others’ as invalid, that’s a double standard. Either anecdotal and vague evidence is reliable, in which case all religions have it, or it isn’t, in which case no one can use it to claim exclusive truth. Picking and choosing when to accept or dismiss certain types of evidence based on your own beliefs is biased.

Third, yeah, you did a pretty good at describing science. So...?
 
But why are my instincts telling me to SCHLOMP:love: beckies:love: with my BBIIC:love: then? I dont want to worship a random guy who made my life suffering while others are winning(n):p
Here is what your Lord says about this:

*Surah Al-Hadid (57:20):*

*"Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion?"*

This verse clearly shows the temporary and deceptive nature of worldly life compared to the eternal reality of the Hereafter.
 
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Here is what your Lord says about this:

*Surah Al-Hadid (57:20):*

*"Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion?"*

This verse clearly shows the temporary and deceptive nature of worldly life compared to the eternal reality of the Hereafter.
So i need to risk everything and just accept suffering and hope that a random book is true? Why are chads getting everything then?:p
 
First, yes, many claims in the book of the Quran escape scientific understanding, I don't think you can reliably part a sea or turn objects into animals. Also yeah, maybe the book does make some claims that, if you interpret them VERY LIBERALLY, could fit into scientific concepts or modern theories, but that's as far as it goes.

Second, virtually every religion claims to be the "true" one and each presents its own kind of “evidence” to support that claim. You mentioned that your religion isn't based on faith and that it has "more evidence than any other religion", guess how many times I've heard that one from Christians before? :lul: Actually, only 3 guys, but you get the point, that's still a lot.

The issue is that much of the “evidence” used by different religions is vague, anecdotal, or coincidental, not scientific or independently verifiable. You cannot claim that your religion’s evidence is strong while dismissing others’ as invalid, that’s a double standard. Either anecdotal and vague evidence is reliable, in which case all religions have it, or it isn’t, in which case no one can use it to claim exclusive truth. Picking and choosing when to accept or dismiss certain types of evidence based on your own beliefs is biased.

Third, yeah, you did a pretty good at describing science. So...?
No, any verse in the Quran or the hadiths do not contradict openly science its not a science textbook but a guide for humanity, ofc Allah explains the 6th century arabs in their language and what they understand. But any claim you come up with can be refuted so if youre truthful bring me scientific mistake and ill refute em lol. And theres indeed science like embyrology and many more things that werent known at that time let alone to a unlettered 6th century arab in the desert.

Second the things youre brought me like splitting the sea these are MIRACLES theyre not supposed to be a normal natural occurence lol, do you think God cannot bring you a miracle that overrided natural laws? Lmao. That thinking is flawed and is brought up by layman.

Third youve mentioned that any religion has "proofs" but i tell you right now there is not a single "divine book" or text that CLAIMS that its the word of god, christians and jews openly claim its man made and agree its faith only not evidence. But the Quran claims to be the literal words of God thats btw why its not imitable and till today 1400 years later nobody could come up something with it in arabic not even a single chapter like it let alone Book. I wont explain everything now but i know what you will say now.

Fourth youre assuming science is perfect and has no mistakes so taking it as evidence for a guidance book that doesnt claim to be a science textbook is crazy lol. But if you want to know The quran aligns with modern science.

Fifth yes, i showed you the flaws of science and how its just assumption upon assumption and prone to errors
 
So i need to risk everything and just accept suffering and hope that a random book is true? Why are chads getting everything then?:p
Youre slow, you dont risk anything? Its not faith lol. Were not christians. Second youre not accepting suffering lol? You trust upon your lord and hope for the best? Also the suffering eternal hellfire is far worse in suffering that your girly problems lol. Also Chads can get what they want, doesnt matter they will if they didnt accept islam get punished eternally and God does not look at your looks lol
 
No, any verse in the Quran or the hadiths do not contradict openly science its not a science textbook but a guide for humanity, ofc Allah explains the 6th century arabs in their language and what they understand. But any claim you come up with can be refuted so if youre truthful bring me scientific mistake and ill refute em lol. And theres indeed science like embyrology and many more things that werent known at that time let alone to a unlettered 6th century arab in the desert.

Second the things youre brought me like splitting the sea these are MIRACLES theyre not supposed to be a normal natural occurence lol, do you think God cannot bring you a miracle that overrided natural laws? Lmao. That thinking is flawed and is brought up by layman.

Third youve mentioned that any religion has "proofs" but i tell you right now there is not a single "divine book" or text that CLAIMS that its the word of god, christians and jews openly claim its man made and agree its faith only not evidence. But the Quran claims to be the literal words of God thats btw why its not imitable and till today 1400 years later nobody could come up something with it in arabic not even a single chapter like it let alone Book. I wont explain everything now but i know what you will say now.

Fourth youre assuming science is perfect and has no mistakes so taking it as evidence for a guidance book that doesnt claim to be a science textbook is crazy lol. But if you want to know The quran aligns with modern science.

Fifth yes, i showed you the flaws of science and how its just assumption upon assumption and prone to errors
1. I assume you're not very open to evolution, right? What does the Qur'an say about it? Evolution is one of the most well-established scientific theories.

2. Exactly. Overriding natural laws goes beyond scientific understanding, we're on the same page there.

3. Your book's self-referential validation means nothing. I could write a book and claim it's the word of God too, but unless I can back it up, that claim is meaningless. You cannot validate a system by using the system itself, you need an external/independent framework for that, what you're doing is called a "circular reasoning fallacy".

4. I never said science is perfect, actually I said the complete opposite (I QUOTE MY OWN WORDS: "Scientific understanding is far from perfect or complete..."). But it's still one of the most reliable tools we have for filtering out bullshit. Whether or not the Qur'an claims to be scientific, it's meant to be an explanation of the natural world (created by God), which puts it in the realm of things science studies. And no, turning a staff into a snake doesn’t align with modern science.

Saying "God can override nature" is logically weak, it's an unfalsifiable claim and doesn't hold up in a discussion about what's true or not. Maybe I can’t disprove it, but can YOU prove it? Exactly, neither of us can work with such an argument, therefore it is invalid.

6. You haven’t really shown anything, you’ve just made vague comments. So which is it: is science reliable or not? Does the Qur’an align with it, or not? You seem to be flipping between positions.

7. That’s not how scientific understanding works. Science is built on observation, experimentation, hypothesis, and theory. Sure, a hypothesis starts as a guess to explain something, but it's not treated as proof. That comes later, if repeated testing across different disciplines supports it, it can become a scientific theory.

For example, I could claim that dogs are red. That claim is meaningless on its own, a hypothesis, an "assumption" like you say, but science doesn't work with hypothesis, that's just one part of the method. To prove it, I’d collect a large enough sample of dogs, measure fur color, test light wavelengths, and have others replicate the study. If the data supports my claim, then it becomes a valid theory. This process is based on evidence, not "assumptions".

You can't seriously claim the Qur’an aligns with science when you clearly don’t understand how science actually works.
 
So i need to risk everything and just accept suffering and hope that a random book is true? Why are chads getting everything then?:p
joined two days ago, genuinely believes in the bp
 
Sorry not interested in marrying 8yo like you people do!
 
based for not being an idiot about it, not based for not doing proper research

i'll try to reply properly later when I get back home
I mean if I were you I wouldn't bother, back in Quarantine I was such a goblin for online debating, specially around theological topics or science. But I have since come out to realize that all of that is meaningless, no matter what I say, I won't disrupt your faith, and you will not change my beliefs.

It's simply the nature of the argument, I value empiricism, done through observation, falsification, repeatability, and predictive power, and none of that conflates well with the metaphysical. The only way to engage with such an argument is through attacking its internal coherence, parsimony (or Occam’s Razor), whether it aligns with our lived experiences or morality.

I do not care about those kinds of discussion since they are simply unresolvable, because the two worldviews operate by different rules. I like my rules to be grounded in what's real, not in what's CLAIMED to be real.

But either way, what I'm trying to do is not deny your religion (again, that's impossible, it's unfalsifiable by definition), believe whatever you want, what I'm doing is poking holes in this guy's argument, because if there's something I hate is people who try to push their beliefs onto others.
 
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I mean if I were you I wouldn't bother, back in Quarantine I was such a goblin for online debating, specially around theological topics or science. But I have since come out to realize that all of that is meaningless, no matter what I say, I won't disrupt your faith, and you will not change my beliefs.

It's simply the nature of the argument, I value empiricism, done through observation, falsification, repeatability, and predictive power, and none of that conflates well with the metaphysical. The only way to engage with such an argument is through attacking its internal coherence, parsimony (or Occam’s Razor), whether it aligns with our lived experiences or morality.

I do not care about those kinds of discussion since they are simply unresolvable, because the two worldviews operate by different rules. I like my rules to be grounded in what's real, not in what's CLAIMED to be real.

But either way, what I'm trying to do is not deny your religion (again, that's impossible, it's unfalsifiable by definition), believe whatever you want, what I'm doing is poking holes in this guy's argument, because if there's something I hate is people who try to push their beliefs onto others.
damn, guess I wont reply then
 
Its been almost 3 weeks that i reverted now. And i ask all of you. Especially the suicidal depressed people that think theres no hope. Please. I know i will get mocked, , insulted and made fun of but please. If you are sincere and dont want to risk your afterlife with eternal hell fire please read the Quran. There is no doubt about it.
Evidence? I try to keep an open mind
 
no way you genuinely believe in the bp LMAOAOAOAO

what a clown

go back to incels.is please
Is this satire? How can anyone not realize the bp is the truth when all they have to do is open social media jfl. And no i won't go back to incels.is im trying to ascend now
 
Is this satire? How can anyone not realize the bp is the truth when all they have to do is open social media jfl. And no i won't go back to incels.is im trying to ascend now
my guy im high mtn facecard but 6'2 with a beautiful stacylite, im not even ripped im skin and bones

the bp absolutely isnt the truth depending on your situation, if you wanna ravage random women then yeah the bp matters but not for any ltr

not living in the west also helps :lul:
 

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