I just remeasured my bidelt width

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Measured a little over 21 inches. So I’m about 80th precentile. This actually makes more sense now to what I see irl. I used to think I’m 22 inches JFL. That 1 inch really makes a huge difference

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are you gymcelled? If untrained that is pretty good you can probably squeeze in an inch at least, a lot more according to @Arborist
 
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Face is everything
 
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are you gymcelled? If untrained that is pretty good you can probably squeeze in an inch at least, a lot more according to @Arborist
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Like 7 months natty training
I look like this currently, no pump. I think I could grow my delts way more

@Arborist @Blackgymmax thoughts?
 
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Measured a little over 21 inches. So I’m about 80th precentile. This actually makes more sense now to what I see irl. I used to think I’m 22 inches JFL. That 1 inch really makes a huge difference

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What's your height and weight/bf%
 
6’3 and about 90kg. Idk about bf
Oh yeah seems legit. I'm 6'2 20 inch bidelt always thought my frame was narrow. I'm 150lbs though
 
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Like 7 months natty training
I look like this currently, no pump. I think I could grow my delts way more

@Arborist @Blackgymmax thoughts?
width doesn’t matter as much as proportions
your bidelt doesn’t seem that high because your waist is wide
focus on getting v taper
 
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Cope harder. U can see my bicromial is wide too
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nigga ur frame is literally narrower than that of loox's before even gymcelling and his here was 18 inches iirc
who are u trying to impress here :lul:
 
width doesn’t matter as much as proportions
your bidelt doesn’t seem that high because your waist is wide
focus on getting v taper
Bro it’s a straight on shot ofc I’m gonna look narrow. Irl when I flare my arms and lats I look way bigger
 
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nigga ur frame is literally narrower than that of loox's before even gymcelling and his here was 18 inches iirc
who are u trying to impress here :lul:
Lmfao fucking retard he wasn’t 18 inches there. U know nothing
 
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nigga ur frame is literally narrower than that of loox's before even gymcelling and his here was 18 inches iirc
who are u trying to impress here :lul:
It's about the angle you take it at, you don't even see the rest of his body.

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nigga ur frame is literally narrower than that of loox's before even gymcelling and his here was 18 inches iirc
who are u trying to impress here :lul:
it looks narrower, but in total diameter it might not be, how wide your shoulders look depends a lot on other factors such as the angle your traps insert, the curvature of your clavicles, the width of your rib-cage, your hips, your waist and the size of your skull, loox has a pin-head which makes his head look more proportional to his frame.
 
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width doesn’t matter as much as proportions
your bidelt doesn’t seem that high because your waist is wide
focus on getting v taper
Im not rly wide but girls comment on my proportions
 
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it looks narrower, but in total diameter it might not be, how wide your shoulders look depends a lot on other factors such as the angle your traps insert, the curvature of your clavicles, the width of your rib-cage, your hips, your waist and the size of your skull, loox has a pin-head which makes his head look more proportional to his frame.
even if he had proportions identical to op's hed still look just as wide if still not wider unfortunately
 
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Im not rly wide but girls comment on my proportions
ye absolute width is def a cope and male gaze
superman proportions (narrow waist and hips in relation to chest) is everything for looking good without a shirt
your shoulder waist ratio is almost ideal
 
even if he had proportions identical to op's hed still look just as wide if still not wider unfortunately
ye absolute width is def a cope and male gaze
superman proportions (narrow waist and hips in relation to chest) is everything for looking good without a shirt
your shoulder waist ratio is almost ideal
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@Arborist used to look like this

Boys give me time I’ll ascend. Also angles matter a lot
 
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ye absolute width is def a cope and male gaze
superman proportions (narrow waist and hips in relation to chest) is everything for looking good without a shirt
your shoulder waist ratio is almost ideal
Narrow waist is cope. A long straight ribcage extending through your torso is ideal
 
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Im not rly wide but girls comment on my proportions
you look wide considering you don't actually have long clavicles, that's already a feat that very few achieve without adding mass in places where it doesn't look good.
even if he had proportions identical to op's hed still look just as wide if still not wider unfortunately
it's hard to estimate width accurately from pictures, you can tell whether people are wide or not, but it's all in perspective of the rest of their body, even in real life it's difficult if you don't have much of a grasp on estimating measurements which very few do unless it's related to their job.

people with relatively wide shoulders compared to the average, let's say 22~ inch untrained don't look that wide on pictures if they're also 6'+ foot tall, because all of their other proportions are also bigger.

as a result of this, it also seems as if women have big heads in pictures, but in reality that's an illusion created by the shape of their skulls and their frames being smaller than those of men.
 
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it's hard to estimate width accurately from pictures, you can tell whether people are wide or not, but it's all in perspective of the rest of their body, even in real life it's difficult if you don't have much of a grasp on estimating measurements which very few do unless it's related to their job.

people with relatively wide shoulders compared to the average, let's say 22~ inch untrained don't look that wide on pictures if they're also 6'+ foot tall, because all of their other proportions are also bigger.

as a result of this, it also seems as if women have big heads in pictures, but in reality that's an illusion created by the shape of their skulls and their frames being smaller than those of men.
my condolences to op's 30 inch skull making his 21 inch bideltoid look miniscule in that case
 
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you look wide considering you don't actually have long clavicles, that's already a feat that very few achieve without adding mass in places where it doesn't look good.

it's hard to estimate width accurately from pictures, you can tell whether people are wide or not, but it's all in perspective of the rest of their body, even in real life it's difficult if you don't have much of a grasp on estimating measurements which very few do unless it's related to their job.

people with relatively wide shoulders compared to the average, let's say 22~ inch untrained don't look that wide on pictures if they're also 6'+ foot tall, because all of their other proportions are also bigger.

as a result of this, it also seems as if women have big heads in pictures, but in reality that's an illusion created by the shape of their skulls and their frames being smaller than those of men.
Im getting clav and LL idc. Ill be like jack hanma
 
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my condolences to op's 30 inch skull making his 21 inch bideltoid look miniscule in that case
most of the models posted here have the opposite problem, they have dolichocephalic skulls and as a result their frames look disproportionally small compared to their heads, in reality they're likely still relatively wide since it's a selection criteria for models as it makes clothing look far more appealing.

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you look wide considering you don't actually have long clavicles, that's already a feat that very few achieve without adding mass in places where it doesn't look good.

it's hard to estimate width accurately from pictures, you can tell whether people are wide or not, but it's all in perspective of the rest of their body, even in real life it's difficult if you don't have much of a grasp on estimating measurements which very few do unless it's related to their job.

people with relatively wide shoulders compared to the average, let's say 22~ inch untrained don't look that wide on pictures if they're also 6'+ foot tall, because all of their other proportions are also bigger.

as a result of this, it also seems as if women have big heads in pictures, but in reality that's an illusion created by the shape of their skulls and their frames being smaller than those of men.
Are the percentiles in op accurate?
 
most of the models posted here have the opposite problem, they have dolichocephalic skulls and as a result their frames look disproportionally small compared to their heads, in reality they're likely still relatively wide since it's a selection criteria for models as it makes clothing look far more appealing.

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They are both meso
 
most of the models posted here have the opposite problem, they have dolichocephalic skulls and as a result their frames look disproportionally small compared to their heads, in reality they're likely still relatively wide since it's a selection criteria for models as it makes clothing look far more appealing.

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It’s all angles
 
Are the percentiles in op accurate?
no, they're based on american marines who are 5'6 to 5'8 on average, america is a manlet nation and any country with an average height of 6' for men is likely significantly wider.
 
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no, they're based on american marines who are 5'6 to 5'8 on average, america is a manlet nation and any country with an average height of 6' for men is likely significantly wider.
Highly doubt that what you said is true
 
he's 6'4 and his chest is approximately 40 inches, which leads me to think his shoulder circumference is likely around 52-~ which means his bidelt should be around 22 to 23 (bidelt is usually circumference - 16-20 divided by two) yet he doesn't look that wide.
 
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waistcel cope lmfao
I have the thinnest waist on this entire fucking forum, my ribs are bent in due to a deformity it absolutely sucks. Men are meant to have straight torsos, it's women who are meant to have curvy torsos not fucking men you retards
 
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I have the thinnest waist on this entire fucking forum, my ribs are bent in due to a deformity it absolutely sucks. Men are meant to have straight torsos, it's women who are meant to have curvy torsos not fucking men your retards
you prolly anorexic so it looks shit
gain some mass
men are meant to have V torso
 
my condolences to op's 30 inch skull making his 21 inch bideltoid look miniscule in that case
I have this problem and it’s not good boyo 99th percentile face width isn’t good for making your clavicles look wide

Brutal tbh
 
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I have the thinnest waist on this entire fucking forum, my ribs are bent in due to a deformity it absolutely sucks. Men are meant to have straight torsos, it's women who are meant to have curvy torsos not fucking men you retards
Literally. Small waist is feminine
 
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I have this problem and it’s not good boyo 99th percentile face width isn’t good for making your clavicles look wide

Brutal tbh
Bro Ive seen u arent u that 6’5 guy? Ur frame looked insane
 
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Highly doubt that what you said is true
all measurements scale up with height, this isn't ground breaking information.

that graph was conducted on US marines.
 
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all measurements scale up with height, this isn't ground breaking information.

that graph was conducted on US marines.
The marines being 5’6-5’8 is just comically lot true white Americans aren’t manlets
 
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I have the thinnest waist on this entire fucking forum, my ribs are bent in due to a deformity it absolutely sucks. Men are meant to have straight torsos, it's women who are meant to have curvy torsos not fucking men you retards
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I can vacuum down to sub 25 inch now.
The marines being 5’6-5’8 is just comically lot true white Americans aren’t manlets
american men are significantly shorter than the countries their ancestors are from.
 
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