I'm a fan of neither.
same tbh
Wish I could just live on a farm and be self sufficient and have a family at an early age just like my grandparents parents did.
Empathy will be the only thing you'll have left in a few decades, so use it wisely. But yeah, not all people can be helped. Follow your intuition, don't get taken advantage of but be kind to those who really care for you.
Cope
capitalism allows people with shit social skills or who don't appeal to normies to get ahead. in socialism it's normie mob rule. it would be fucking awful.
fair point
Nope, its about empathy and conscientiousness. Most people drawn to egalitarian ideologies dont want to see people starving or freezing to death.
You show that you don't understand the definition of socialism. High taxes can coexist with private property, BUT THIS IS NOT SOCIALISM! In the same way, nationalization is not yet socialism, but state capitalism - the state replaces the role of the capitalists.
And what does it change? Your opinion won't change the fact that they will bribe politicians if they want to.
So you're suggesting that betabuxxing is the solution?
Good luck!
Better than state mandated betabuxxing. And at least it allows clever individuals to escape the grind.
But where am I talking about state-mandated wives? I'm not a fan of the state either, just like I'm not a fan of corporations.
Does this mean that we should throw the rest of the population at the mercy of oligarchs ready to send them to next wars and crises?
I advocate for a society based on voluntary cooperation, mutual aid, and decentralized decision-making. Instead of relying on centralized authority, power would be dispersed among local communities and individuals. Economic activities would be organized through worker cooperatives and community-owned enterprises, ensuring that the benefits are shared among all participants. This model promotes individual freedoms while emphasizing social and economic equality, aiming to create a society that prioritizes human well-being over profit-driven motives.
Lol if you want to live in a soyciety in general, way more chill to just live in the countryside and have a farm or something, no reason to "progress" soyciety forward.
No country has a free market so no country is actually capitalist socialists pick and choose what socialism is and capitalism is.
You need an authoritarian state to transition into communism.
my point is that u cant argue that communism sucks as an ideology because it hasnt been properly anywhere at any timeYou need totalitarian regimes to enforce communism and socialism
Because it is a utopic dream.It would only work if everyone was a goody two shoes NPC.It would only work unironically if there was hypertotalitarian regime like Oceania in 1984.
Ironic because that essentially what Marx describes if I'm not wrong he states constant propaganda needs to be created to convince people they are still fighting capitalism and capitalists even after communism has been achieved
Ironic since he was a part of the bourgeosie he hated so much.He also hated the jews a lot even though he was technically a jew(his father converted to christianity if i am not mistaken)
it will work once theres enough automation, imagine 50% of jobs replaced by AI
And capitalism is a dystopian reality.
AI is overrated and would be more expensive than some random chinese guy
not at all
What is the free market for you? Define it first. Also, I'm wondering if you'd really want that... for abortion clinics or gay bars to exist - you need state intervention to do something about it. Intervention, so the market would not be free but regulated - not to mention that the very existence of the state requires taxes.
A free market = no state intervention
Doesn't the very existence of taxes undermine our freedom? If the free market is the absence of state intervention... then there can be no free market as long as the state exists.
Depends on what those taxes are used on if it benefits me without me knowing the no it doesn't undermine my freedom. But I do think a flat tax rate across the entire populous is a bit dumb individuals should be able to choose what they're tax goes to and how much they pay.
Rofl, if this is satirical, it's hilarious
Latin countries it’s just poor capitalism countries
Do you know why this discussion is pointless? Again and again I notice the same pattern: repeating previously refuted nonsense. Such nonsense is, for example, calling Sweden a socialist country. While it is a social democratic country (high tax capitalism, welfare state).
Yeah, I agree, if you're talking about fantasy utopia. In reality your wife would probably die in childbirth, most of your children in infancy, and then you and the rest of them would be murdered by marauders or foreign invaders. If you're talking about now, yeah sure, there's room for a tiny percent of people to escape, but you owe that opportunity to capitalism. It's like that dumb fucking "radical self sufficiency" Burning Man shit. Like, they take a bunch of shit capitalism made, or that they made in advance because of the free time that capitalism afforded them, then they go out into the desert and LARP as though they're doing it without capitalism.
Lol if you believe that jew stuff
