I need a hobby because im gonna become NEET soon. What hobby should i have ?

[Deleted member 20652]

I need a hobby because im gonna become NEET soon. What hobby should i have ?

Penis Enlargement exercises?
Watching movies?
Online ewhore blackmail scamming?

@Alex MACHO

//BIKER GANG THOMAS

 

[Deleted member 22370]

I suggest looking into occultism

 

[Deleted member 15468]

weed + gaming

u can waste years doing that if you like it

 

[Orc]

grow plants like me.

 

[AlexBrown84]

Take a vacation to new country every week like meh

 

[Deleted member 1851]

not sure

//BIKER GANG

 

[Deleted member 14975]

weed + gaming

u can waste years doing that if you like it

What's so good about weed? smoking is for the absolute cucks of cucks what does smoking do besides destroy stamina, teeth, lungs, teeth gums, bad breath smoking has 0 benefit

 

[Deleted member 15468]

What's so good about weed? smoking is for the absolute cucks of cucks what does smoking do besides destroy stamina, teeth, lungs, teeth gums, bad breath smoking has 0 benefit

it makes you high you stupid little ape

thats the benefit

are you 12?

 

[Tusseleif]

Worldbuilding’s fun

Making your own countries, religions, cultures, landmasses, cities, lore, geopolitics, drawing maps and drawing and writing things about the world, all that shit.

I worldbuild, read or watch history and fantasy stuff. Gets the inspiration going and gets me going as a NEET, to indulge in my interests

 

[hebbewem]

Eventually it will become boring

 

[hebbewem]

Worldbuilding’s fun

Making your own countries, religions, cultures, landmasses, cities, lore, geopolitics, drawing maps and drawing and writing things about the world, all that shit.

I worldbuild, read or watch history and fantasy stuff. Gets the inspiration going and gets me going as a NEET, to indulge in my interests

I understand why you are neet

 

[Deleted member 20652]

weed + gaming

u can waste years doing that if you like it

Nah bruv if I'm gonna start spending money on actual narcotics then I'd rather spend money on opioids instead of weed. Same price for a monthly habit but opioid feels much better than weed more bang for buck , opioids might even be cheaper than weed since with long acting opioids you only need 1 dosage per day but a weed high only lasts 3 hours

I'm high inhibition about getting caught n having to pay expensive police fines though so that's what's holding me back from narcotics

Gaming yes I'm into that , but gaming computers are so damn expensive I don't know if I would ever buy one. For now I just do mobile gaming

Otherwise thanks for the suggestions nice sharing ideas with ya !

//UNCLE THOMAS

 

[Tusseleif]

I understand why you are neet

I’d love to hear some random guy’s thoughts as to why I’m a neet

 

[hebbewem]

I’d love to hear some random guy’s thoughts as to why I’m a neet

Because you are stupid

 

[fruitgunpop]

Pick up an instrument and talentmax like @curlyheadjames

 

[Tusseleif]

Because you are stupid

Says you who can’t even write properly.

Pretty random thing to say anyway since I was just stating my hobby and giving advice.

 

[hebbewem]

Says you who can’t even write properly.

Pretty random thing to say anyway since I was just stating my hobby and giving advice.

I say that . I can write better if i want. It wasn't about your hobby . Btw didn't you fail hs

 

[Deleted member 20652]

grow plants like me.

I dont have a garden bro

//BIKER GANG

 

[Deleted member 20891]

Worldbuilding’s fun

Making your own countries, religions, cultures, landmasses, cities, lore, geopolitics, drawing maps and drawing and writing things about the world, all that shit.

I worldbuild, read or watch history and fantasy stuff. Gets the inspiration going and gets me going as a NEET, to indulge in my interests

Just say that you haven't gone outside in years and are terminally online.

 

[Trilogy]

Exercise because it would lessen the negative effects of NEETdom. Also I'm jealous asf that you're gonna be a NEET soon

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Pick up an instrument and talentmax like @curlyheadjames

i play 8 and i must say it's gotten me no where playing countless gigs in 11 different bands over the span of my career
two bands i was in had chadlite bass players who all height mogged me and despite playing fucking good ass guitar solo on stage and doing tricks throwing pick into the crows after the show the girls all flirted with the chadlite and i was alone guess what? our chadlite bassist played with us at a school dance before and we played a kick ass rock song and aftre the show me the drummer rhythm guitarist keyboardist got no girls to dance with and chadlite is the only one who got a girl music is all fucking cope it's all looks

 

[Tusseleif]

Just say that you haven't gone outside in years and are terminally online.

Is it wrong that I have a hobby?

 

[Deleted member 20891]

Is it wrong that I have a hobby?

It's a retarded neckbeard hobby

 

[Tusseleif]

It's a retarded neckbeard hobby

Lots of sad af people on this forum

Dude asked for advice on a hobby and I gave him some. Tf is your problem?

 

[Tusseleif]

I say that . I can write better if i want. It wasn't about your hobby . Btw didn't you fail hs

I didn’t fail hs? Wtf are you one about, who are you

 

[hebbewem]

I didn’t fail hs? Wtf are you one about, who are you

I thought you did

 

[Deleted member 14693]

I thought you did

Cause you always make up stuff about people and act like they are facts

 

[hebbewem]

Cause you always make up stuff about people and act like they are facts

Are you this stupid i was wrong that dont mean i made something up plus he went to a special ed hs

 

[Deleted member 14693]

ent to a special ed hs

Over

 

[Tusseleif]

Cause you always make up stuff about people and act like they are facts

Either he is a legitimate retard or he purposefully writes and acts as a retard, either way it’s annoying af

 

[\/orman]

I need a hobby because im gonna become NEET soon. What hobby should i have ?

Penis Enlargement exercises?
Watching movies?
Online ewhore blackmail scamming?

@Alex MACHO

//BIKER GANG THOMAS

Reading quallity books:
Amazon product ASIN 1466466308

Amazon product ASIN 1889356107

Amazon product ASIN 0979275733

Amazon product ASIN 0976571536

 

[hebbewem]

Either he is a legitimate retard or he purposefully writes and acts as a retard, either way it’s annoying af

You went to a special ed school

 

[Allandro]

I need a hobby because im gonna become NEET soon. What hobby should i have ?

Penis Enlargement exercises?
Watching movies?
Online ewhore blackmail scamming?

@Alex MACHO

//BIKER GANG THOMAS

Open a feet onlyfans

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Pick up an instrument and talentmax like @curlyheadjames

Im Not good at instruments . Too difficult for me.

//UNCLE THOMAS

Exercise because it would lessen the negative effects of NEETdom. Also I'm jealous asf that you're gonna be a NEET soon

NEET is king

Low cortisol lifestyle n lots of free time for hobbies

Why don't you become NEET also?

//UNCLE THOMAS

 

[Deleted member 22370]

Eventually it will become boring

Drugs never get boring

 

[Deleted member 22370]

i play 8 and i must say it's gotten me no where playing countless gigs in 11 different bands over the span of my career
two bands i was in had chadlite bass players who all height mogged me and despite playing fucking good ass guitar solo on stage and doing tricks throwing pick into the crows after the show the girls all flirted with the chadlite and i was alone guess what? our chadlite bassist played with us at a school dance before and we played a kick ass rock song and aftre the show me the drummer rhythm guitarist keyboardist got no girls to dance with and chadlite is the only one who got a girl music is all fucking cope it's all looks

Keep doing music

 

[Baldingman1998]

Dnp source

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Keep doing music

i will thank u

 

[Deleted member 23017]

I suggest looking into occultism

The association of Nazism with occultism occurs in a wide range of theories, speculation, and research into the origins of Nazism and into Nazism's possible relationship with various occult traditions. Such ideas have flourished as a part of popular culture since at least the early 1940s (during World War II), and gained renewed popularity starting in the 1960s. Books on the topic include The Morning of the Magicians (1960) and The Spear of Destiny (1972). Occultism in Nazism has also been featured in numerous documentaries, films, novels, comic books, and other fictional media. Notable examples include the film Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), the Wolfenstein video-game series, the comic-book series Hellboy (1993–present), and the manga series JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (1987).

Historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke analyzed the topic in his 1985 book The Occult Roots of Nazism, in which he argued there were in fact links between some ideals of Ariosophy and Nazi ideology. He also analyzed the problems of the numerous popular occult historiography books written on the topic. Goodrick-Clarke sought to separate empiricism and sociology from the modern mythology of Nazi occultism that exists in many books which "have represented the Nazi phenomenon as the product of arcane and demonic influence".[1] He evaluated most of the 1960 to 1975 books on Nazi occultism as "sensational and under-researched".[2]

There is a persistent idea, widely canvassed in a sensational genre of literature, that the Nazis were principally inspired and directed by occult agencies from 1920 to 1945.[4]

Appendix E of Goodrick-Clarke's book is entitled The Modern Mythology of Nazi Occultism. In it, he gives a highly critical view of much of the popular literature on the topic. In his words, these books describe Hitler and the Nazis as being controlled by a "hidden power ... characterized either as a discarnate entity (e.g., 'black forces', 'invisible hierarchies', 'unknown superiors') or as a magical elite in a remote age or distant location".[5] He referred to the writers of this genre as "crypto-historians".[5] The works of the genre, he wrote,

were typically sensational and under-researched. Complete ignorance of the primary sources was common to most authors and inaccuracies and wild claims were repeated by each newcomer to the genre until abundant literature existed, based on wholly spurious 'facts' concerning the powerful Thule Society, the Nazi links with the East, and Hitler's occult initiation.[6]

In a new preface for the 2004 edition of The Occult Roots of Nazism, Goodrick-Clarke comments that in 1985, when his book first appeared, "Nazi black magic" was regarded as a topic for sensational authors in pursuit of strong sales."[7]

In his 2002 work Black Sun, which was originally intended to trace the survival of occult Nazi themes in the postwar period,[8] Goodrick-Clarke considered it necessary to readdress the topic. He devotes one chapter of the book to "the Nazi mysteries",[9] as he terms the field of Nazi occultism there. Other reliable summaries of the development of the genre have been written by German historians. The German edition of The Occult Roots of Nazism includes an essay, "Nationalsozialismus und Okkultismus" ("National Socialism and Occultism"), which traces the origins of the speculation about Nazi occultism back to publications from the late 1930s, and which was subsequently translated by Goodrick-Clarke into English. The German historian Michael Rißmann has also included a longer "excursus" about "Nationalsozialismus und Okkultismus" in his acclaimed book on Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs.[10]

According to Goodricke-Clarke, the speculation of Nazi occultism originated from "post-war fascination with Nazism".[4] The "horrid fascination" of Nazism upon the Western mind[11] emerges from the "uncanny interlude in modern history" that it presents to an observer a few decades later.[4] The idolization of Hitler in Nazi Germany, its short-lived dominion on the European continent and Nazism's extreme antisemitism set it apart from other periods of modern history.[11] "Outside a purely secular frame of reference, Nazism was felt to be the embodiment of evil in a modern twentieth-century regime, a monstrous pagan relapse in the Christian community of Europe."[11]

By the early 1960s, "one could now clearly detect a mystique of Nazism."[11] A sensationalistic and fanciful presentation of its figures and symbols, "shorn of all political and historical context", gained ground with thrillers, non-fiction books, and films and permeated "the milieu of popular culture."[11]


The Occult Roots of Nazism is commended for specifically addressing the fanciful modern depictions of Nazi occultism, as well as carefully reflecting critical scholarly work that finds associations between Ariosophy and Nazi agency. As scholar Anna Bramwell writes, "One should not be deceived by the title into thinking that it belongs to the 'modern mythology of Nazi occultism', a world of salacious fantasy convincingly dismembered by the author in an Appendix," [12] referring to the various written, depicted, and produced material that delves into Nazi occultism without providing any reliable or relevant evidence. Instead, it is through Goodrick-Clarke's work that several scholarly criticisms addressing occult relevance in conjunction with Ariosophist practices arise.

Historians like Martyn Housden and Jeremy Noakes commend Goodrick-Clarke for addressing the relationship between Ariosophic ideologies rooted in certain Germanic cultures and the actual agency of Nazi hierarchy; the problem, as Housden remarks, lies in the efficacy of these Ariosophic practices. As he remarks, "The true value of this study, therefore, lies in its painstaking elucidation of an intrinsically fascinating subculture which helped colour rather than cause aspects of Nazism. In this context, it also leaves us pondering a central issue: why on earth were Austrian and German occultists, just like the Nazi leadership, quite so susceptible to, indeed obsessed by, specifically aggressive racist beliefs anyway?"[13] Noakes continues this general thought by concluding, "[Goodrick-Clarke] provides not only a definitive account of the influence of Ariosophy on Nazism, a subject which is prone to sensationalism, but also fascinating insights into the intellectual climate of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century."[14] These reviews reflect the greatest dilemmas in Nazi occultist scholarship; the discernment between actual efficacy of possible occult practices by Nazi leaders, purpose of these practices, and modern notions and applications of occultism today largely impact the appropriate scholarship in general in making connections between plausible Nazi Ariosophic practices and blatant popular myth.[12]

The linkages Goodrick-Clarke makes concerning Ariosophy and German society are further detailed in Peter Merkl's Political Violence under the Swastika, in which "pre-1933 Nazis", various NSDAP members, volunteered to write their memoirs and recollections about the rise of the Nazi Party in order to provide a coherent, statistical analysis of the motivations and ideals these early members hoped to pursue in German politics. From the findings, Merkl has found, through statistical evidence, that there were aspects of ideology within German society that favored intense German nationalism, ranging from what was considered to be a "German Romantic", one who was "beholden to the cultural and historical traditions of old Germany..."[15] to someone classified as a part of an alleged "Nordic/Hitler Cult", one who followed Voelkisch (traditional, antisemitic) beliefs. To further prove the point, Merkl discovered that of those willing to submit their testimonies, "Protestants tended to be German Romantics, Catholics to be anti-Semites, superpatriots, and solidarists. Areas of religious homogeneity were particularly high in anti-Semitism or in the Nordic-German cult,"[16] of which members of both religious groups were prone to "Judenkoller", an alleged sudden and violent sickness that would manifest either in blatant hatred or hysteria at being within proximity of Jews. Coincidentally, Merkl mentions a relationship to this Nordic/German-agrarian cult in relation to the 19th century to a "crypto-Nazi tradition", despite being written ten years prior to The Occult Roots of Nazism.

Some of this modern mythology even touches Goodrick-Clarke's topic directly. The rumor that Adolf Hitler had encountered the Austrian monk and antisemitic publicist Lanz von Liebenfels, already at the age of 8, at Heilgenkreuz abbey, goes back to Les mystiques du soleil (1971) by Michel-Jean Angbert. "This episode is wholly imaginary."[17]

Nevertheless, Michel-Jean Angbert and the other authors discussed by Goodrick-Clarke present their accounts as real, so that this modern mythology has led to several legends that resemble conspiracy theories, concerning, for example, the Vril Society or rumours about Karl Haushofer's connection to the occult. The most influential books were Trevor Ravenscroft's The Spear of Destiny and The Morning of the Magicians by Pauwels and Bergier.

Claims[edit]​

One of the earliest claims of Nazi occultism can be found in Lewis Spence's book Occult Causes of the Present War (1940). According to Spence, Alfred Rosenberg and his book The Myth of the Twentieth Century were responsible for promoting pagan, occult and anti-Christian ideas that motivated the Nazi party.

Demonic possession of Hitler[edit]​

For a demonic influence on Hitler, Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks is brought forward as a source.[18] However, most modern scholars do not consider Rauschning reliable.[19] (As Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke summarises, "recent scholarship has almost certainly proved that Rauschning's conversations were mostly invented".)[20]

Similarly to Rauschning, August Kubizek, one of Hitler's closest friends since childhood, claims that Hitler—17 years old at the time—once spoke to him of "returning Germany to its former glory"; of this comment August said, "It was as if another being spoke out of his body, and moved him as much as it did me."[21]

An article "Hitler's Forgotten Library" by Timothy Ryback, published in The Atlantic (May 2003),[22] mentions a book from Hitler's private library authored by Ernst Schertel. Schertel, whose interests were flagellation, dance, occultism, nudism and BDSM, had also been active as an activist for sexual liberation before 1933. He had been imprisoned in Nazi Germany for seven months and his doctoral degree was revoked. He is supposed to have sent a dedicated copy of his 1923 book Magic: History, Theory and Practice to Hitler some time in the mid-1920s. Hitler is said to have marked extensive passages, including one which reads "He who does not have the demonic seed within himself will never give birth to a magical world".[23]

Theosophist Alice A. Bailey stated during World War II that Adolf Hitler was possessed by what she called the Dark Forces.[24] Her follower Benjamin Creme has stated that through Hitler (and a group of equally evil men around him in Nazi Germany, together with a group of militarists in Japan and a further group around Mussolini in Italy[25]) was released the energies of the Antichrist,[26] which, according to theosophical teachings is not an individual person but forces of destruction.

According to James Herbert Brennan in his book Occult Reich, Hitler's mentor, Dietrich Eckhart (to whom Hitler dedicates Mein Kampf), wrote to a friend of his in 1923: "Follow Hitler! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. We have given him the 'means of communication' with Them. Do not mourn for me; I shall have influenced history more than any other German."

New World Order[edit]​

Conspiracy theorists "frequently identify German National Socialism among other things as a precursor of the New World Order".[27] With regard to Hitler's later ambition of imposing the Nazi regime throughout Europe, Nazi propaganda used the term Neuordnung (often poorly translated as "the New Order", while actually referring to the "re-structurization" of state borders on the European map and the resulting post-war economic hegemony of Greater Germany),[28] so one could probably say that the Nazis pursued a new world order in terms of politics. But the claim that Hitler and the Thule Society conspired to create a New World Order (a conspiracy theory, put forward on some webpages)[29] is completely unfounded.[30]

Aleister Crowley[edit]​

There are also unverifiable rumours that the occultist Aleister Crowley sought to contact Hitler during World War II. Despite several allegations and speculations to the contrary, there is no evidence of such an encounter.[31] In 1991, John Symonds, one of Crowley's literary executors, published a book: The Medusa's Head or Conversations Between Aleister Crowley and Adolf Hitler, which has definitively been shown to be literary fiction.[31] That the edition of this book was limited to 350 also contributed to the mystery surrounding the topic.[31] Mention of a contact between Crowley and Hitler—without any sources or evidence—is also made in a letter from René Guénon to Julius Evola dated October 29, 1949, which later reached a broader audience.[31]

Erik Jan Hanussen[edit]​

The documentary Hitler and the Occult describes how Hitler "seemed endowed with even greater authority and charisma" after he had resumed public speaking in March 1927. The narrator states that "this may have been due to the influence" of the clairvoyant performer and publicist Erik Jan Hanussen. "Hanussen helped Hitler perfect a series of exaggerated poses," useful for speaking before a huge audience. The documentary then interviews Dusty Sklar about the contact between Hitler and Hanussen, and the narrator makes the statement about "occult techniques of mind control and crowd domination."

Whether Hitler had met Hanussen at all is not certain. That he even encountered him before March 1927 is not confirmed by other sources about Hanussen. In the late 1920s to early 1930s Hanussen made political predictions in his own newspaper, Hanussens Bunte Wochenschau, that gradually started to favour Hitler, but until late 1932 these predictions varied.[32] In 1929, Hanussen predicted, for example, that Wilhelm II would return to Germany in 1930 and that the problem of unemployment would be solved in 1931.[32]

Nazi mysticism, occultism, and science fiction[edit]​

Nazi mysticism in German culture is further expanded upon within Manfred Nagl's article "SF (Science Fiction), Occult Sciences, and Nazi Myths", published in the journal Science Fiction Studies. In it, Nagl writes that the racial narratives described in contemporary German Science Fiction stories, like The Last Queen of Atlantis, by Edmund Kiss, provide further notions of racial superiority under the auspices of Ariosophy, Aryanism, and alleged historic racial Mysticism, suggesting that writings associated with possible Occultism, Ariosophy, or Aryanism were products intended to influence and justify in a socio-political manner, rather than simply establish cultural heritage. The stories themselves dealt with "...heroes, charismatic leader types, (who) have been chosen by fate—with the resources of a sophisticated and extremely powerful technology".[33] Nagl considers science fiction pieces like Atlantis further fueled the violent persuasiveness of Nazi leaders, such as Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, as further justification for a "Nazi elite (envisioning) for itself in occupied East European territories".[33] This, in turn, allegedly propagated public support of Nazi ideology, summated by Nagl as "a tremendous turning back of culture, away from the age of reason and consciousness, toward the age of a 'sleepwalking certainty', the age of supra-rational magic".[34]

Crypto-historic books[edit]​

In the essay that is included in the German edition of The Occult Roots..., H. T. Hakl, an Austrian publisher of esoteric works,[35] traces the origins of the speculation about Nazism and Occultism back to several works from the early 1940s. His research was also published in a short book, Unknown sources: National Socialism and the Occult, translated by Goodrick-Clarke. Already in 1933 a pseudonymous Kurt van Emsen described Hitler as a "demonic personality", but his work was soon forgotten.[36] The first allusions that Hitler was directed by occult forces which were taken up by the later authors came from French Christian esotericist René Kopp.[37] In two articles published in the monthly esoteric journal Le Chariot from June 1934 and April 1939, he seeks to trace the source of Hitler's power to supernatural forces.[37] The second article was titled: "L'Enigme du Hitler".[37] In other French esoteric journals of the 1930s, Hakl could not find similar hints.[37] In 1939 another French author, Edouard Saby, published a book: Hitler et les Forces Occultes.[38] Saby already mentions Hanussen and Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln.[39] Hakl even hints that Edouard Saby would have the copyright on the myth of Nazi occultism.[39] However, another significant book from 1939 is better known: Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks. There it is said (in the chapter "Black and White Magic"), that "Hitler surrendered himself to forces that carried him away. ... He turned himself over to a spell, which can, with good reason and not simply in a figurative analogy, be described as demonic magic." The chapter "Hitler in private" is even more dramatic, and was left out in the German edition from 1940.[40]

Goodrick-Clarke examines several pseudo-historic "books written about Nazi occultism between 1960 and 1975", that "were typically sensational and under-researched".[41] He terms this genre "crypto-history", as its defining element and "final point of explanatory reference is an agent which has remained concealed to previous historians of National Socialism".[5] Characteristic tendencies of this literature include: (1) "a complete ignorance of primary sources" and (2) the repetition of "inaccuracies and wild claims", without the attempt being made to confirm even "wholly spurious 'facts'".[42] Books debunked in Appendix E of The Occult Roots of Nazism are:

• Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, 1960, The Morning of the Magicians[43]
• Dietrich Bronder, 1964, Bevor Hitler kam[44]
• Trevor Ravenscroft, 1972, The Spear of Destiny[45]
• Michel-Jean Angbert, 1971, Les mystiques du soleil[17]
• J. H. Brennan, 1974, The Occult Reich[44]
• Otto Rahn, 1937, Luzifers Hofgesind, eine Reise zu den guten Geistern Europas (Lucifer's Court: A Heretic's Journey in Search of the Light Bringers).

These books are only mentioned in the Appendix. Otherwise the whole book by Goodrick-Clarke does without any reference to this kind of literature; it uses other sources. This literature is not reliable; however, books published after the emergence of The Occult Roots of Nazism continue to repeat claims that have been proven false:

• Wulf Schwarzwaller, 1988, The Unknown Hitler[46]
• Alan Baker, 2000, Invisible Eagle. The History of Nazi Occultism[47]

 

[Deleted member 13626]

What's so good about weed? smoking is for the absolute cucks of cucks what does smoking do besides destroy stamina, teeth, lungs, teeth gums, bad breath smoking has 0 benefit

Dmt mogs from what i heard

I need a hobby because im gonna become NEET soon. What hobby should i have ?

Penis Enlargement exercises?
Watching movies?
Online ewhore blackmail scamming?

@Alex MACHO

//BIKER GANG THOMAS

Some sort of sport if you're outgoing. If not, gaming, YouTube, junk food, sweets, alcohol, some sort of recreational drugs, kinda like a ldar

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Also bullying people on looksmax

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Either he is a legitimate retard or he purposefully writes and acts as a retard, either way it’s annoying af

He is always hobbyshaming for no reason despite having zero hobbies himself jfl

 

[Bojack]

going er should be your main priority. It's over for you, incel.

 

[Gargantuan]

Hobbymaxxing can be quite legit it seems. I need a new hobby as well

//BIKER GANG

 

[incel194012940]

weed + gaming

u can waste years doing that if you like it

BAD IDEA FOR NEET

weed every day = 100$s of dollars a month

modern gaming = expensive PC, semi frequent update, expensive games

The association of Nazism with occultism occurs in a wide range of theories, speculation, and research into the origins of Nazism and into Nazism's possible relationship with various occult traditions. Such ideas have flourished as a part of popular culture since at least the early 1940s (during World War II), and gained renewed popularity starting in the 1960s. Books on the topic include The Morning of the Magicians (1960) and The Spear of Destiny (1972). Occultism in Nazism has also been featured in numerous documentaries, films, novels, comic books, and other fictional media. Notable examples include the film Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), the Wolfenstein video-game series, the comic-book series Hellboy (1993–present), and the manga series JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (1987).

Historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke analyzed the topic in his 1985 book The Occult Roots of Nazism, in which he argued there were in fact links between some ideals of Ariosophy and Nazi ideology. He also analyzed the problems of the numerous popular occult historiography books written on the topic. Goodrick-Clarke sought to separate empiricism and sociology from the modern mythology of Nazi occultism that exists in many books which "have represented the Nazi phenomenon as the product of arcane and demonic influence".[1] He evaluated most of the 1960 to 1975 books on Nazi occultism as "sensational and under-researched".[2]


Appendix E of Goodrick-Clarke's book is entitled The Modern Mythology of Nazi Occultism. In it, he gives a highly critical view of much of the popular literature on the topic. In his words, these books describe Hitler and the Nazis as being controlled by a "hidden power ... characterized either as a discarnate entity (e.g., 'black forces', 'invisible hierarchies', 'unknown superiors') or as a magical elite in a remote age or distant location".[5] He referred to the writers of this genre as "crypto-historians".[5] The works of the genre, he wrote,


In a new preface for the 2004 edition of The Occult Roots of Nazism, Goodrick-Clarke comments that in 1985, when his book first appeared, "Nazi black magic" was regarded as a topic for sensational authors in pursuit of strong sales."[7]

In his 2002 work Black Sun, which was originally intended to trace the survival of occult Nazi themes in the postwar period,[8] Goodrick-Clarke considered it necessary to readdress the topic. He devotes one chapter of the book to "the Nazi mysteries",[9] as he terms the field of Nazi occultism there. Other reliable summaries of the development of the genre have been written by German historians. The German edition of The Occult Roots of Nazism includes an essay, "Nationalsozialismus und Okkultismus" ("National Socialism and Occultism"), which traces the origins of the speculation about Nazi occultism back to publications from the late 1930s, and which was subsequently translated by Goodrick-Clarke into English. The German historian Michael Rißmann has also included a longer "excursus" about "Nationalsozialismus und Okkultismus" in his acclaimed book on Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs.[10]

According to Goodricke-Clarke, the speculation of Nazi occultism originated from "post-war fascination with Nazism".[4] The "horrid fascination" of Nazism upon the Western mind[11] emerges from the "uncanny interlude in modern history" that it presents to an observer a few decades later.[4] The idolization of Hitler in Nazi Germany, its short-lived dominion on the European continent and Nazism's extreme antisemitism set it apart from other periods of modern history.[11] "Outside a purely secular frame of reference, Nazism was felt to be the embodiment of evil in a modern twentieth-century regime, a monstrous pagan relapse in the Christian community of Europe."[11]

By the early 1960s, "one could now clearly detect a mystique of Nazism."[11] A sensationalistic and fanciful presentation of its figures and symbols, "shorn of all political and historical context", gained ground with thrillers, non-fiction books, and films and permeated "the milieu of popular culture."[11]


The Occult Roots of Nazism is commended for specifically addressing the fanciful modern depictions of Nazi occultism, as well as carefully reflecting critical scholarly work that finds associations between Ariosophy and Nazi agency. As scholar Anna Bramwell writes, "One should not be deceived by the title into thinking that it belongs to the 'modern mythology of Nazi occultism', a world of salacious fantasy convincingly dismembered by the author in an Appendix," [12] referring to the various written, depicted, and produced material that delves into Nazi occultism without providing any reliable or relevant evidence. Instead, it is through Goodrick-Clarke's work that several scholarly criticisms addressing occult relevance in conjunction with Ariosophist practices arise.

Historians like Martyn Housden and Jeremy Noakes commend Goodrick-Clarke for addressing the relationship between Ariosophic ideologies rooted in certain Germanic cultures and the actual agency of Nazi hierarchy; the problem, as Housden remarks, lies in the efficacy of these Ariosophic practices. As he remarks, "The true value of this study, therefore, lies in its painstaking elucidation of an intrinsically fascinating subculture which helped colour rather than cause aspects of Nazism. In this context, it also leaves us pondering a central issue: why on earth were Austrian and German occultists, just like the Nazi leadership, quite so susceptible to, indeed obsessed by, specifically aggressive racist beliefs anyway?"[13] Noakes continues this general thought by concluding, "[Goodrick-Clarke] provides not only a definitive account of the influence of Ariosophy on Nazism, a subject which is prone to sensationalism, but also fascinating insights into the intellectual climate of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century."[14] These reviews reflect the greatest dilemmas in Nazi occultist scholarship; the discernment between actual efficacy of possible occult practices by Nazi leaders, purpose of these practices, and modern notions and applications of occultism today largely impact the appropriate scholarship in general in making connections between plausible Nazi Ariosophic practices and blatant popular myth.[12]

The linkages Goodrick-Clarke makes concerning Ariosophy and German society are further detailed in Peter Merkl's Political Violence under the Swastika, in which "pre-1933 Nazis", various NSDAP members, volunteered to write their memoirs and recollections about the rise of the Nazi Party in order to provide a coherent, statistical analysis of the motivations and ideals these early members hoped to pursue in German politics. From the findings, Merkl has found, through statistical evidence, that there were aspects of ideology within German society that favored intense German nationalism, ranging from what was considered to be a "German Romantic", one who was "beholden to the cultural and historical traditions of old Germany..."[15] to someone classified as a part of an alleged "Nordic/Hitler Cult", one who followed Voelkisch (traditional, antisemitic) beliefs. To further prove the point, Merkl discovered that of those willing to submit their testimonies, "Protestants tended to be German Romantics, Catholics to be anti-Semites, superpatriots, and solidarists. Areas of religious homogeneity were particularly high in anti-Semitism or in the Nordic-German cult,"[16] of which members of both religious groups were prone to "Judenkoller", an alleged sudden and violent sickness that would manifest either in blatant hatred or hysteria at being within proximity of Jews. Coincidentally, Merkl mentions a relationship to this Nordic/German-agrarian cult in relation to the 19th century to a "crypto-Nazi tradition", despite being written ten years prior to The Occult Roots of Nazism.

Some of this modern mythology even touches Goodrick-Clarke's topic directly. The rumor that Adolf Hitler had encountered the Austrian monk and antisemitic publicist Lanz von Liebenfels, already at the age of 8, at Heilgenkreuz abbey, goes back to Les mystiques du soleil (1971) by Michel-Jean Angbert. "This episode is wholly imaginary."[17]

Nevertheless, Michel-Jean Angbert and the other authors discussed by Goodrick-Clarke present their accounts as real, so that this modern mythology has led to several legends that resemble conspiracy theories, concerning, for example, the Vril Society or rumours about Karl Haushofer's connection to the occult. The most influential books were Trevor Ravenscroft's The Spear of Destiny and The Morning of the Magicians by Pauwels and Bergier.

Claims[edit]​

One of the earliest claims of Nazi occultism can be found in Lewis Spence's book Occult Causes of the Present War (1940). According to Spence, Alfred Rosenberg and his book The Myth of the Twentieth Century were responsible for promoting pagan, occult and anti-Christian ideas that motivated the Nazi party.

Demonic possession of Hitler[edit]​

For a demonic influence on Hitler, Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks is brought forward as a source.[18] However, most modern scholars do not consider Rauschning reliable.[19] (As Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke summarises, "recent scholarship has almost certainly proved that Rauschning's conversations were mostly invented".)[20]

Similarly to Rauschning, August Kubizek, one of Hitler's closest friends since childhood, claims that Hitler—17 years old at the time—once spoke to him of "returning Germany to its former glory"; of this comment August said, "It was as if another being spoke out of his body, and moved him as much as it did me."[21]

An article "Hitler's Forgotten Library" by Timothy Ryback, published in The Atlantic (May 2003),[22] mentions a book from Hitler's private library authored by Ernst Schertel. Schertel, whose interests were flagellation, dance, occultism, nudism and BDSM, had also been active as an activist for sexual liberation before 1933. He had been imprisoned in Nazi Germany for seven months and his doctoral degree was revoked. He is supposed to have sent a dedicated copy of his 1923 book Magic: History, Theory and Practice to Hitler some time in the mid-1920s. Hitler is said to have marked extensive passages, including one which reads "He who does not have the demonic seed within himself will never give birth to a magical world".[23]

Theosophist Alice A. Bailey stated during World War II that Adolf Hitler was possessed by what she called the Dark Forces.[24] Her follower Benjamin Creme has stated that through Hitler (and a group of equally evil men around him in Nazi Germany, together with a group of militarists in Japan and a further group around Mussolini in Italy[25]) was released the energies of the Antichrist,[26] which, according to theosophical teachings is not an individual person but forces of destruction.

According to James Herbert Brennan in his book Occult Reich, Hitler's mentor, Dietrich Eckhart (to whom Hitler dedicates Mein Kampf), wrote to a friend of his in 1923: "Follow Hitler! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. We have given him the 'means of communication' with Them. Do not mourn for me; I shall have influenced history more than any other German."

New World Order[edit]​

Conspiracy theorists "frequently identify German National Socialism among other things as a precursor of the New World Order".[27] With regard to Hitler's later ambition of imposing the Nazi regime throughout Europe, Nazi propaganda used the term Neuordnung (often poorly translated as "the New Order", while actually referring to the "re-structurization" of state borders on the European map and the resulting post-war economic hegemony of Greater Germany),[28] so one could probably say that the Nazis pursued a new world order in terms of politics. But the claim that Hitler and the Thule Society conspired to create a New World Order (a conspiracy theory, put forward on some webpages)[29] is completely unfounded.[30]

Aleister Crowley[edit]​

There are also unverifiable rumours that the occultist Aleister Crowley sought to contact Hitler during World War II. Despite several allegations and speculations to the contrary, there is no evidence of such an encounter.[31] In 1991, John Symonds, one of Crowley's literary executors, published a book: The Medusa's Head or Conversations Between Aleister Crowley and Adolf Hitler, which has definitively been shown to be literary fiction.[31] That the edition of this book was limited to 350 also contributed to the mystery surrounding the topic.[31] Mention of a contact between Crowley and Hitler—without any sources or evidence—is also made in a letter from René Guénon to Julius Evola dated October 29, 1949, which later reached a broader audience.[31]

Erik Jan Hanussen[edit]​

The documentary Hitler and the Occult describes how Hitler "seemed endowed with even greater authority and charisma" after he had resumed public speaking in March 1927. The narrator states that "this may have been due to the influence" of the clairvoyant performer and publicist Erik Jan Hanussen. "Hanussen helped Hitler perfect a series of exaggerated poses," useful for speaking before a huge audience. The documentary then interviews Dusty Sklar about the contact between Hitler and Hanussen, and the narrator makes the statement about "occult techniques of mind control and crowd domination."

Whether Hitler had met Hanussen at all is not certain. That he even encountered him before March 1927 is not confirmed by other sources about Hanussen. In the late 1920s to early 1930s Hanussen made political predictions in his own newspaper, Hanussens Bunte Wochenschau, that gradually started to favour Hitler, but until late 1932 these predictions varied.[32] In 1929, Hanussen predicted, for example, that Wilhelm II would return to Germany in 1930 and that the problem of unemployment would be solved in 1931.[32]

Nazi mysticism, occultism, and science fiction[edit]​

Nazi mysticism in German culture is further expanded upon within Manfred Nagl's article "SF (Science Fiction), Occult Sciences, and Nazi Myths", published in the journal Science Fiction Studies. In it, Nagl writes that the racial narratives described in contemporary German Science Fiction stories, like The Last Queen of Atlantis, by Edmund Kiss, provide further notions of racial superiority under the auspices of Ariosophy, Aryanism, and alleged historic racial Mysticism, suggesting that writings associated with possible Occultism, Ariosophy, or Aryanism were products intended to influence and justify in a socio-political manner, rather than simply establish cultural heritage. The stories themselves dealt with "...heroes, charismatic leader types, (who) have been chosen by fate—with the resources of a sophisticated and extremely powerful technology".[33] Nagl considers science fiction pieces like Atlantis further fueled the violent persuasiveness of Nazi leaders, such as Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, as further justification for a "Nazi elite (envisioning) for itself in occupied East European territories".[33] This, in turn, allegedly propagated public support of Nazi ideology, summated by Nagl as "a tremendous turning back of culture, away from the age of reason and consciousness, toward the age of a 'sleepwalking certainty', the age of supra-rational magic".[34]

Crypto-historic books[edit]​

In the essay that is included in the German edition of The Occult Roots..., H. T. Hakl, an Austrian publisher of esoteric works,[35] traces the origins of the speculation about Nazism and Occultism back to several works from the early 1940s. His research was also published in a short book, Unknown sources: National Socialism and the Occult, translated by Goodrick-Clarke. Already in 1933 a pseudonymous Kurt van Emsen described Hitler as a "demonic personality", but his work was soon forgotten.[36] The first allusions that Hitler was directed by occult forces which were taken up by the later authors came from French Christian esotericist René Kopp.[37] In two articles published in the monthly esoteric journal Le Chariot from June 1934 and April 1939, he seeks to trace the source of Hitler's power to supernatural forces.[37] The second article was titled: "L'Enigme du Hitler".[37] In other French esoteric journals of the 1930s, Hakl could not find similar hints.[37] In 1939 another French author, Edouard Saby, published a book: Hitler et les Forces Occultes.[38] Saby already mentions Hanussen and Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln.[39] Hakl even hints that Edouard Saby would have the copyright on the myth of Nazi occultism.[39] However, another significant book from 1939 is better known: Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks. There it is said (in the chapter "Black and White Magic"), that "Hitler surrendered himself to forces that carried him away. ... He turned himself over to a spell, which can, with good reason and not simply in a figurative analogy, be described as demonic magic." The chapter "Hitler in private" is even more dramatic, and was left out in the German edition from 1940.[40]

Goodrick-Clarke examines several pseudo-historic "books written about Nazi occultism between 1960 and 1975", that "were typically sensational and under-researched".[41] He terms this genre "crypto-history", as its defining element and "final point of explanatory reference is an agent which has remained concealed to previous historians of National Socialism".[5] Characteristic tendencies of this literature include: (1) "a complete ignorance of primary sources" and (2) the repetition of "inaccuracies and wild claims", without the attempt being made to confirm even "wholly spurious 'facts'".[42] Books debunked in Appendix E of The Occult Roots of Nazism are:

• Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, 1960, The Morning of the Magicians[43]
• Dietrich Bronder, 1964, Bevor Hitler kam[44]
• Trevor Ravenscroft, 1972, The Spear of Destiny[45]
• Michel-Jean Angbert, 1971, Les mystiques du soleil[17]
• J. H. Brennan, 1974, The Occult Reich[44]
• Otto Rahn, 1937, Luzifers Hofgesind, eine Reise zu den guten Geistern Europas (Lucifer's Court: A Heretic's Journey in Search of the Light Bringers).

These books are only mentioned in the Appendix. Otherwise the whole book by Goodrick-Clarke does without any reference to this kind of literature; it uses other sources. This literature is not reliable; however, books published after the emergence of The Occult Roots of Nazism continue to repeat claims that have been proven false:

• Wulf Schwarzwaller, 1988, The Unknown Hitler[46]
• Alan Baker, 2000, Invisible Eagle. The History of Nazi Occultism[47]

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//BIKER GANG