I need braces. HELP.

[Sal]

I need braces, however I have a short (or narrow) lips/mouth and I want to make
my lips longer not bigger but horizontally longer. I know this correlates with your
palate and if you have a narrow palate then you'd have a narrow mouth/lips.

So the question I'm asking is, as a 20 year old is it worth getting a palate expander
with the braces I'm going to get for the benefit of getting a wider smile/lips.

I think my teeth are pretty wide already

What I got rn:





Goals:

 

[Warlow]

you getting a pheno transplant as well?

 

[lonelycurry]

Yes but u might not be even be a candidate for a palate expander bcuz ur lower arch already matches up you your top

 

[WonderChad]

Are your gums recessed? If so they can cause bone loss around your chin and under your nose

 

[Truemaxxer]

Dont get a palate expander the "lips widening gains" are neglectable + ur nose will widen too

Also for ur goal you need a need a completly different pheno even if its just the mouth anyone here could tell he is lightskin you are Indian

 

[datboijj]

lel

 

[Deleted member 14166]

I need braces, however I have a short (or narrow) lips/mouth and I want to make
my lips longer not bigger but horizontally longer. I know this correlates with your
palate and if you have a narrow palate then you'd have a narrow mouth/lips.

So the question I'm asking is, as a 20 year old is it worth getting a palate expander
with the braces I'm going to get for the benefit of getting a wider smile/lips.

I think my teeth are pretty wide already

What I got rn:





Goals:
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mew and chew ,personally in my opinion it has done wonders for me , but I started at an early age ,give It a try tho

 

[Deleted member 5786]

Why do some vote "yes" jfl

 

[Sal]

Dont get a palate expander the "lips widening gains" are neglectable + ur nose will widen too

Also for ur goal you need a need a completly different pheno even if its just the mouth anyone here could tell he is lightskin you are Indian

Im literally mixed.... not indian. I just got LED light strips in my room

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Your mouth is goving terrorist/school shooter/Breivik vibes ngl. That being said, your upper and lower dentoalveolar arches match up perfectly, therefore you're not a candidate for SARPE.
Mandible expansion is possible too theoretically, but it's prone to asymmetry and some studies report canine necrosis...

Your teeth are slightly pointing inwards, so get your ortho to push them outwards, and for your mouth I suggest bimax with masseter repositioning, there's no other fix for it

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Your mouth is goving terrorist/school shooter/Breivik vibes ngl. That being said, your upper and lower dentoalveolar arches match up perfectly, therefore you're not a candidate for SARPE.
Mandible expansion is possible too theoretically, but it's prone to asymmetry and some studies report canine necrosis...

Your teeth are slightly pointing inwards, so get your ortho to push them outwards, and for your mouth I suggest bimax with masseter repositioning, there's no other fix for it

what does masseter repositioning do?
sounds very invasive

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

what does masseter repositioning do?
sounds very invasive

Nah it's not, it's just releasing the masseter and pterygoid muscle insertions off the ramus while keeoing the masseter-pterygoid sling together, and reposition it a little further back to debloat the face.
The masseter is released during every chin wing and literally the only issue that I had was that I couldn't really open my mouth for a week but thats it.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Nah it's not, it's just releasing the masseter and pterygoid muscle insertions off the ramus while keeoing the masseter-pterygoid sling together, and reposition it a little further back to debloat the face.
The masseter is released during every chin wing and literally the only issue that I had was that I couldn't really open my mouth for a week but thats it.

nice, would ascend me by 0.25 psl
dr z im cominggg

 

[Sal]

Your mouth is goving terrorist/school shooter/Breivik vibes ngl. That being said, your upper and lower dentoalveolar arches match up perfectly, therefore you're not a candidate for SARPE.
Mandible expansion is possible too theoretically, but it's prone to asymmetry and some studies report canine necrosis...

Your teeth are slightly pointing inwards, so get your ortho to push them outwards, and for your mouth I suggest bimax with masseter repositioning, there's no other fix for it

Thanks for the high iQ repsonse. I think I might go with braces + Chin/Mandible implant. I'm hella overweight due to covid.
This is me before covid. Before I gained like 40 pounds