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Hello, I introduce myself I am 17 years old I was doing the following stack for 8 months:

MK 677 (10-25mg) every day
Melatonin (3 mg) 5 times a week
Anastrozole (1 mg) 3 times a week
D3 + K2 (5000 iu) every day

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At the beginning I did not feel the effects of MK 677, it is more I had insomnia and anxiety compared to today that I feel pulsations in my legs, arms and spine I wake up refreshed as if I will add 4 more hours of sleep, accompany with melatonin all this time to fall asleep and empower hgh, there are days when I feel like shit, depressed and frustrated I just go for a run and it goes away. At school I was 1.70 at 16 years old and weighed just 55 kilos, currently I gain considerable muscle and I measure 1.74, I went to get my identity document where I was standing in line for almost 3 hours there they measured me, I think I can be 1.75 strong in the mornings.

My goal is 1.80, I play soccer every weekend, all my cousins were much taller than me now after the pandemic I am intermediate, the highest is 1.81 weak. I have no idea how to run the following peptides, I have infinite money, please recommend me a dose that does not screw me so much.

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s/ 210 = 60 $

I will also add Ashwagandha and Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) to my stack

Recommend peptides or how to execute correctly, it is greatly appreciated


soon I will post my progress with photos and videos.
 
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have you been monitoring your blood glucose levels? diabetes runs in my family and im taking mk-677 and dont wanna become a diabetic so after 8 months have u noticed a change in your insulin resistance? thanks
 
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What we need:
1. Methilation
2.
3.

Strike_poseidon's stack (the best one so far):

MSM (Tablets) - is widely used in the alternative medicine field and by people looking for a natural way to relieve joint pain, reduce inflammation and boost immunity. 1000mg - Doctor's Best, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with OptiMSM, 360 Veggie Capsules
Item Price: $35.76

Glucosamine & chondroitin (Tablets) - Glucosamine and chondroitin are structural components of cartilage, the tissue that cushions the joints. Both are produced naturally in the body. They are also available as dietary supplements. 1500mg for Glucosamine /// 1200mg for chondroitin

SAM - E (enteric tabs only) - For methylation. There have been also studies showing that it redistributes mercury in the brain but there's nothing much to worry about since i'm gonna be making thread regarding heavy metal poisoning and how to detoxify yourself. Take 2 grams -
Doctor's Best, SAM-e, 200 mg, 60 Enteric Coated Tablets
Item Price: $23.84 (so $1480 yearly, 10 tablets a day)

✅ Another source (400mg // 120 tabs // Australian $98) ... Now do your own research on yearly basis cost, i'm lazy)

Xcrunner has tried on 2 of his clients in his trials(ages 15 and 17), although they had inactive plates to begin with. He Gave them 2g of sam-e enteric coated tablet form plus about 500-800mcg folic acid and pure puerarin (basically weakened form of hexarelin)..today they are now both 21 and the 17 year old is now 23. The 23 year old is 6ft 3 and still growing!, he still has the same amount of facial hair since he was 17 and no hair on his legs still His plates never became inactive as a result, and the crazy thing is, his mum is 5ft 3 and dad 5ft 6. This suggests that increasing DNA methylation will make the body continue growing as it never gets physically older to realise it's time to stop increasing proliferation so fast, so this could be a way to physical anti-aging for puberty heightmaxxing

SAM-E and MSM in some of his trials were able to make the inactive plate people grow, why? Because of articular cartilage. Inactive growth plate means they can't grow anymore unless the pubertal hormone and protein environment is made again, this can be done with the chemicals. Anyway high dose sam-e before growth plate closure is better than after, i don't know how long it'll last but take it folinic acid, folic acid and SAM-E your plates will remain open almost forever

--------------
(Relaxin) - relaxin can give some height increase, however I think SAM-e method, even though it takes much longer to reactivate and once it does finally reactivate, chondrogenesis is seriously limited as most of cartilage is ossified so it an only rely on hyaline cartilage, anyway better than relaxin in general, nice find tho!
--------------

Folic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Now Foods, Folic Acid, 800 mcg, 250 Tablets
Item Price: $5.06 ($11 yearly (and you are left with more))

Folinic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Source Naturals, MegaFolinic, 120 Tablets
Item Price: $10.64 ($32 yearly)

--------------
(L-5-MTHF) - You can use it as an replacement for folic and folinic acid
(methylfolate) - You can use it as an replacement for folic
--------------

Glucosamine sulphate (Tablets) - Regular supplementation with glucosamine sulfate has shown to have a small to moderate effect by slowing the rate of joint cartilage degeneration if taken regularly for three years, might help you grow 3cm after plates close... 1500mg

Ecodysterone (Tablets) -

Si-Wu-tang extract (tablets) - Activates pi3k for bone formation...

Curcumin (Tablets) - 1000mg

Meclizine (Tablets) - Induces growth through some unrelated pathway, redistributes mercury (which can cause autism btw).. Take it on your own risk, but stay tuned cause i'll upload a thread on how to get rid out of heavy metals from your body, so i will confidently use meclizine. 400mg

BMP () - I have figured out how BMP can revert inactive growth plate back into MSC. $54.99

Hexarelin (injections) -

Resveratrol (Tablets) - 400mg

Rosuvastatin (Tablets) -

Doxycycline (Tablets) -

Astragalus (Tablets) - 1400mg

---------------
ADDITIONAL TO STACK:

IGF-1 LR3 (Injections) - In other words, you'll grow, vertically and horizontally... This is why children grow rapidly during puberty. Factors that are known to cause variation in the levels of growth hormone (GH) and IGF-1 in the circulation include insulin levels, genetic make-up, the time of day, age, sex, exercise status, stress levels, nutrition level and body mass index, disease state, ethnicity, and estrogen status. https://austeroids.is/product/igf-1-lr3-1mg-vial-peptide/

I'm not going to be citing studies for IGF-1, as GH and IGF-1 fall in the same category, the GH/IGF-1 axis is what influences growth.

.
..
...

Combine IGF-1 LR3 with heightmaxing stack, 100mcg daily would last you 100 days, it would cost $1400 yearly, maybe with all the shipping. Costing varies from source to source obviously, but it'd cost a shit tonne due to IGF1 Lr3 being hard to manufacture.

* IGF-1 DES (Injections) - the polypeptides IGF-LR3 and IGF-DES have a low affinity to bind to the IGFBP's, meaning they are up to 3x more potent than regular endogenous IGF-1. IGF-1LR3 also happens to have a half-life of up to 30 hours. IGF-DES is even more potent than LR3, the only downside is that it has a 30-minute half-life before it is metabolized by the body, DES also happens to be more localized, so we are going to opt for LR3 in this method as it is more systemic than DES. The combination of HGH and exogenous IGF-1 will guarantee growth. (if your plates are open of course). 50mcg daily

Levothyroxine (Tablets) - Upregulating thyroid function, might increase IGF-1 through taking it... 50mcg



T3 (Liothyronine) 25MCG X 100 Tablets [Core Anabolics] – Buy Steroids Within Australia


ozgear.is




Delta sleep inducing peptide (Nasal spray) - Used for sleeping purposes. DSIP also blocks the release of somatostatin. Somatostatins role is to lower growth hormone, so by blocking the release of this hormone, we are preventing our blood serum level of GH dropping.

Eat more protein - Protein intake increases IGF-1 levels in humans, independent of total calorie consumption. You can consider supplementing it. Glucose is needed for IGF-1 conversion.



Use an AI - Depending on your bodyfat levels, aromatasing ability, exogenous exposure to estrogen... Decide whether you need an mild AI, or stronger AI, do the bloodwork before taking it, and then take it accordingly so you don't crash your estrogen levels. YOU'LL NEED AI IF YOU HOP ON HGH !

* Letrozole is easy to source, pharma-grade can be costly though. Generic is less costly, even better, you could buy pure letrozole powder and if you have a scale you could save a shit tonne of money. 100g of straight letrozole powder costs around $80, which could last you 106 years if you dosed it every single day at 2.5mg. I've got sources so pm me if you're interested.

teens who used the letrozole had an age of 17.4 but had bone age of 15.3: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27710241 they took it for 24-36 months.

GH rapidly aged the bone, whereas GH and AI didn't. AI's seriously make a difference.

DHT-max - Basically injecting testosterone with high androgen derivates, or you can naturally DHTmax. Follow my guide to know what i'm talking about.







COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Is there a way to avoid insulin resistance while on sarms/hgh?
- Use metformin

Is usage of hgh dangerous?
- No, exogenous usage of growth hormone will never create a negative feedback loop, it doesn't affect the hypothalamus/pituitary axis the way that exogenous usage of testosterone does.

But your body can get the protein off from glucose, right?
- yeah but it's not the bodies prefered usage.

how peptides can affect your insulin sensitivity
- https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/50/8/1891
just eat a good diet, exercise and fucking sleep well, dont stress out too much, eat healthy foods especially during this time and you won't have a problem with insulin sensitivity

Is MK-677 legit
- MK677 alone is weak and should be used in conjunction with a GHRH analog or 'receptor agonist', as MK677 has a longer half-life than most Growth hormone-secretagogue-receptor agonists using it with CJC-1295 (DAC) would work well for keeping serum GH elevated. I don't recommend MK677 at all as it interferes with the insulin/GH/IGF-1 axis, it will cause insulin resistance over time, and eventually diabetes if abused.

But where are the RESULTS ???
- Results have not been shown with HGH/peptides , AI AND igf-1 lr3 because noone in this forum has ever done a stack like that (or maybe they have but they ain't telling us) nevertheless there are results from compromised versions i forgot which thread it was on tho...

The GH and AI treatment actually slowed down bone age more than actual AI itself how is that possible ?
- well high amounts of GH cause temporary hypogonadism. Could be it.

PubMed Central, Figure 4.: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2016 Dec; 101(12): 4984–4993. Published online 2016 Oct 6. doi: 10.1210/jc.2016-2891

How to measure bone age, did i stopped growing?
- http://growingupboys.info/Calculators/TannerStage.htm


Will this give me acromeghalia?
- Acromeghalia is a chad trait. Also, acromeghaly isn't just due to super high HGH levels, and IGF-1, yes they are quite important but it's mainly due to HGH and DNA hypermethylation .

Special thanks to strike Poseidon and Ethan Asia
@Henry_Gandy

I wrote this thank me later
 
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he needed it brother
Help me to ascend!
Wlll u take cjc dac 1295? You can get equivalent to 10IUs of HGH with that combo.
But research about its side effects,also take zinc-20-30mg,calcium,boron,magnesium. Also,why aren't u taking aromasin/exemestane? I think it's better than armidiex? What do you think @TeenAscender
 
he needed it brother
Help me to ascend!
Dont take HGH i think exogenous Hgh dosent find the proper binding proteins for height ,so it gives u very little growth,instead the organs in the body and irregular bones grow,this is what I have read,but what u do it all depends on you .
Currently I am 179-180cm ,18 years old,wanting to get to 185, i don't have much money but thinking of running an mk677+aromasin+Huperzine and later adding cjc dac midway in the cycle.
 
Also,@TeenAscender, what do you think of SAM-E and hexerelin? Any side effects,I heard SAM-E gives mercury poisoning in brain but there's a way to prevent it
 
have you been monitoring your blood glucose levels? diabetes runs in my family and im taking mk-677 and dont wanna become a diabetic so after 8 months have u noticed a change in your insulin resistance? thanks
Take berberine and there's 2 other things that reduces hyperglycemia,so u can couple it with mk677.
 
What we need:
1. Methilation
2.
3.

Strike_poseidon's stack (the best one so far):

MSM (Tablets) - is widely used in the alternative medicine field and by people looking for a natural way to relieve joint pain, reduce inflammation and boost immunity. 1000mg - Doctor's Best, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with OptiMSM, 360 Veggie Capsules
Item Price: $35.76

Glucosamine & chondroitin (Tablets) - Glucosamine and chondroitin are structural components of cartilage, the tissue that cushions the joints. Both are produced naturally in the body. They are also available as dietary supplements. 1500mg for Glucosamine /// 1200mg for chondroitin

SAM - E (enteric tabs only) - For methylation. There have been also studies showing that it redistributes mercury in the brain but there's nothing much to worry about since i'm gonna be making thread regarding heavy metal poisoning and how to detoxify yourself. Take 2 grams -
Doctor's Best, SAM-e, 200 mg, 60 Enteric Coated Tablets
Item Price: $23.84 (so $1480 yearly, 10 tablets a day)

✅ Another source (400mg // 120 tabs // Australian $98) ... Now do your own research on yearly basis cost, i'm lazy)

Xcrunner has tried on 2 of his clients in his trials(ages 15 and 17), although they had inactive plates to begin with. He Gave them 2g of sam-e enteric coated tablet form plus about 500-800mcg folic acid and pure puerarin (basically weakened form of hexarelin)..today they are now both 21 and the 17 year old is now 23. The 23 year old is 6ft 3 and still growing!, he still has the same amount of facial hair since he was 17 and no hair on his legs still His plates never became inactive as a result, and the crazy thing is, his mum is 5ft 3 and dad 5ft 6. This suggests that increasing DNA methylation will make the body continue growing as it never gets physically older to realise it's time to stop increasing proliferation so fast, so this could be a way to physical anti-aging for puberty heightmaxxing

SAM-E and MSM in some of his trials were able to make the inactive plate people grow, why? Because of articular cartilage. Inactive growth plate means they can't grow anymore unless the pubertal hormone and protein environment is made again, this can be done with the chemicals. Anyway high dose sam-e before growth plate closure is better than after, i don't know how long it'll last but take it folinic acid, folic acid and SAM-E your plates will remain open almost forever

--------------
(Relaxin) - relaxin can give some height increase, however I think SAM-e method, even though it takes much longer to reactivate and once it does finally reactivate, chondrogenesis is seriously limited as most of cartilage is ossified so it an only rely on hyaline cartilage, anyway better than relaxin in general, nice find tho!
--------------

Folic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Now Foods, Folic Acid, 800 mcg, 250 Tablets
Item Price: $5.06 ($11 yearly (and you are left with more))

Folinic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Source Naturals, MegaFolinic, 120 Tablets
Item Price: $10.64 ($32 yearly)

--------------
(L-5-MTHF) - You can use it as an replacement for folic and folinic acid
(methylfolate) - You can use it as an replacement for folic
--------------

Glucosamine sulphate (Tablets) - Regular supplementation with glucosamine sulfate has shown to have a small to moderate effect by slowing the rate of joint cartilage degeneration if taken regularly for three years, might help you grow 3cm after plates close... 1500mg

Ecodysterone (Tablets) -

Si-Wu-tang extract (tablets) - Activates pi3k for bone formation...

Curcumin (Tablets) - 1000mg

Meclizine (Tablets) - Induces growth through some unrelated pathway, redistributes mercury (which can cause autism btw).. Take it on your own risk, but stay tuned cause i'll upload a thread on how to get rid out of heavy metals from your body, so i will confidently use meclizine. 400mg

BMP () - I have figured out how BMP can revert inactive growth plate back into MSC. $54.99

Hexarelin (injections) -

Resveratrol (Tablets) - 400mg

Rosuvastatin (Tablets) -

Doxycycline (Tablets) -

Astragalus (Tablets) - 1400mg

---------------
ADDITIONAL TO STACK:

IGF-1 LR3 (Injections) - In other words, you'll grow, vertically and horizontally... This is why children grow rapidly during puberty. Factors that are known to cause variation in the levels of growth hormone (GH) and IGF-1 in the circulation include insulin levels, genetic make-up, the time of day, age, sex, exercise status, stress levels, nutrition level and body mass index, disease state, ethnicity, and estrogen status. https://austeroids.is/product/igf-1-lr3-1mg-vial-peptide/

I'm not going to be citing studies for IGF-1, as GH and IGF-1 fall in the same category, the GH/IGF-1 axis is what influences growth.

.
..
...

Combine IGF-1 LR3 with heightmaxing stack, 100mcg daily would last you 100 days, it would cost $1400 yearly, maybe with all the shipping. Costing varies from source to source obviously, but it'd cost a shit tonne due to IGF1 Lr3 being hard to manufacture.

* IGF-1 DES (Injections) - the polypeptides IGF-LR3 and IGF-DES have a low affinity to bind to the IGFBP's, meaning they are up to 3x more potent than regular endogenous IGF-1. IGF-1LR3 also happens to have a half-life of up to 30 hours. IGF-DES is even more potent than LR3, the only downside is that it has a 30-minute half-life before it is metabolized by the body, DES also happens to be more localized, so we are going to opt for LR3 in this method as it is more systemic than DES. The combination of HGH and exogenous IGF-1 will guarantee growth. (if your plates are open of course). 50mcg daily

Levothyroxine (Tablets) - Upregulating thyroid function, might increase IGF-1 through taking it... 50mcg



T3 (Liothyronine) 25MCG X 100 Tablets [Core Anabolics] – Buy Steroids Within Australia


ozgear.is




Delta sleep inducing peptide (Nasal spray) - Used for sleeping purposes. DSIP also blocks the release of somatostatin. Somatostatins role is to lower growth hormone, so by blocking the release of this hormone, we are preventing our blood serum level of GH dropping.

Eat more protein - Protein intake increases IGF-1 levels in humans, independent of total calorie consumption. You can consider supplementing it. Glucose is needed for IGF-1 conversion.



Use an AI - Depending on your bodyfat levels, aromatasing ability, exogenous exposure to estrogen... Decide whether you need an mild AI, or stronger AI, do the bloodwork before taking it, and then take it accordingly so you don't crash your estrogen levels. YOU'LL NEED AI IF YOU HOP ON HGH !

* Letrozole is easy to source, pharma-grade can be costly though. Generic is less costly, even better, you could buy pure letrozole powder and if you have a scale you could save a shit tonne of money. 100g of straight letrozole powder costs around $80, which could last you 106 years if you dosed it every single day at 2.5mg. I've got sources so pm me if you're interested.

teens who used the letrozole had an age of 17.4 but had bone age of 15.3: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27710241 they took it for 24-36 months.

GH rapidly aged the bone, whereas GH and AI didn't. AI's seriously make a difference.

DHT-max - Basically injecting testosterone with high androgen derivates, or you can naturally DHTmax. Follow my guide to know what i'm talking about.







COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Is there a way to avoid insulin resistance while on sarms/hgh?
- Use metformin

Is usage of hgh dangerous?
- No, exogenous usage of growth hormone will never create a negative feedback loop, it doesn't affect the hypothalamus/pituitary axis the way that exogenous usage of testosterone does.

But your body can get the protein off from glucose, right?
- yeah but it's not the bodies prefered usage.

how peptides can affect your insulin sensitivity
- https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/50/8/1891
just eat a good diet, exercise and fucking sleep well, dont stress out too much, eat healthy foods especially during this time and you won't have a problem with insulin sensitivity

Is MK-677 legit
- MK677 alone is weak and should be used in conjunction with a GHRH analog or 'receptor agonist', as MK677 has a longer half-life than most Growth hormone-secretagogue-receptor agonists using it with CJC-1295 (DAC) would work well for keeping serum GH elevated. I don't recommend MK677 at all as it interferes with the insulin/GH/IGF-1 axis, it will cause insulin resistance over time, and eventually diabetes if abused.

But where are the RESULTS ???
- Results have not been shown with HGH/peptides , AI AND igf-1 lr3 because noone in this forum has ever done a stack like that (or maybe they have but they ain't telling us) nevertheless there are results from compromised versions i forgot which thread it was on tho...

The GH and AI treatment actually slowed down bone age more than actual AI itself how is that possible ?
- well high amounts of GH cause temporary hypogonadism. Could be it.

PubMed Central, Figure 4.: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2016 Dec; 101(12): 4984–4993. Published online 2016 Oct 6. doi: 10.1210/jc.2016-2891

How to measure bone age, did i stopped growing?
- http://growingupboys.info/Calculators/TannerStage.htm


Will this give me acromeghalia?
- Acromeghalia is a chad trait. Also, acromeghaly isn't just due to super high HGH levels, and IGF-1, yes they are quite important but it's mainly due to HGH and DNA hypermethylation .

Special thanks to strike Poseidon and Ethan Asia
@Henry_Gandy

I wrote this thank me later
Wont this cocktail give you cancer or decrease your IQ? Also,so many drugs in this mixture could null each other effects or give you weird side effects, please answer this.
Also,glucosamine reduces growth plate proliferation,i have a Linke https://looksmax.org/threads/glucosamine-stunts-growth-openplatecel-heightmaxxers-gtfih.415778/

Also, SAM-E alone gives you mercury poisoning in brain but there's a way to prevenet that? Also,what's the use of hexarelin and does it has any side effects?
 
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What we need:
1. Methilation
2.
3.

Strike_poseidon's stack (the best one so far):

MSM (Tablets) - is widely used in the alternative medicine field and by people looking for a natural way to relieve joint pain, reduce inflammation and boost immunity. 1000mg - Doctor's Best, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with OptiMSM, 360 Veggie Capsules
Item Price: $35.76

Glucosamine & chondroitin (Tablets) - Glucosamine and chondroitin are structural components of cartilage, the tissue that cushions the joints. Both are produced naturally in the body. They are also available as dietary supplements. 1500mg for Glucosamine /// 1200mg for chondroitin

SAM - E (enteric tabs only) - For methylation. There have been also studies showing that it redistributes mercury in the brain but there's nothing much to worry about since i'm gonna be making thread regarding heavy metal poisoning and how to detoxify yourself. Take 2 grams -
Doctor's Best, SAM-e, 200 mg, 60 Enteric Coated Tablets
Item Price: $23.84 (so $1480 yearly, 10 tablets a day)

✅ Another source (400mg // 120 tabs // Australian $98) ... Now do your own research on yearly basis cost, i'm lazy)

Xcrunner has tried on 2 of his clients in his trials(ages 15 and 17), although they had inactive plates to begin with. He Gave them 2g of sam-e enteric coated tablet form plus about 500-800mcg folic acid and pure puerarin (basically weakened form of hexarelin)..today they are now both 21 and the 17 year old is now 23. The 23 year old is 6ft 3 and still growing!, he still has the same amount of facial hair since he was 17 and no hair on his legs still His plates never became inactive as a result, and the crazy thing is, his mum is 5ft 3 and dad 5ft 6. This suggests that increasing DNA methylation will make the body continue growing as it never gets physically older to realise it's time to stop increasing proliferation so fast, so this could be a way to physical anti-aging for puberty heightmaxxing

SAM-E and MSM in some of his trials were able to make the inactive plate people grow, why? Because of articular cartilage. Inactive growth plate means they can't grow anymore unless the pubertal hormone and protein environment is made again, this can be done with the chemicals. Anyway high dose sam-e before growth plate closure is better than after, i don't know how long it'll last but take it folinic acid, folic acid and SAM-E your plates will remain open almost forever

--------------
(Relaxin) - relaxin can give some height increase, however I think SAM-e method, even though it takes much longer to reactivate and once it does finally reactivate, chondrogenesis is seriously limited as most of cartilage is ossified so it an only rely on hyaline cartilage, anyway better than relaxin in general, nice find tho!
--------------

Folic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Now Foods, Folic Acid, 800 mcg, 250 Tablets
Item Price: $5.06 ($11 yearly (and you are left with more))

Folinic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Source Naturals, MegaFolinic, 120 Tablets
Item Price: $10.64 ($32 yearly)

--------------
(L-5-MTHF) - You can use it as an replacement for folic and folinic acid
(methylfolate) - You can use it as an replacement for folic
--------------

Glucosamine sulphate (Tablets) - Regular supplementation with glucosamine sulfate has shown to have a small to moderate effect by slowing the rate of joint cartilage degeneration if taken regularly for three years, might help you grow 3cm after plates close... 1500mg

Ecodysterone (Tablets) -

Si-Wu-tang extract (tablets) - Activates pi3k for bone formation...

Curcumin (Tablets) - 1000mg

Meclizine (Tablets) - Induces growth through some unrelated pathway, redistributes mercury (which can cause autism btw).. Take it on your own risk, but stay tuned cause i'll upload a thread on how to get rid out of heavy metals from your body, so i will confidently use meclizine. 400mg

BMP () - I have figured out how BMP can revert inactive growth plate back into MSC. $54.99

Hexarelin (injections) -

Resveratrol (Tablets) - 400mg

Rosuvastatin (Tablets) -

Doxycycline (Tablets) -

Astragalus (Tablets) - 1400mg

---------------
ADDITIONAL TO STACK:

IGF-1 LR3 (Injections) - In other words, you'll grow, vertically and horizontally... This is why children grow rapidly during puberty. Factors that are known to cause variation in the levels of growth hormone (GH) and IGF-1 in the circulation include insulin levels, genetic make-up, the time of day, age, sex, exercise status, stress levels, nutrition level and body mass index, disease state, ethnicity, and estrogen status. https://austeroids.is/product/igf-1-lr3-1mg-vial-peptide/

I'm not going to be citing studies for IGF-1, as GH and IGF-1 fall in the same category, the GH/IGF-1 axis is what influences growth.

.
..
...

Combine IGF-1 LR3 with heightmaxing stack, 100mcg daily would last you 100 days, it would cost $1400 yearly, maybe with all the shipping. Costing varies from source to source obviously, but it'd cost a shit tonne due to IGF1 Lr3 being hard to manufacture.

* IGF-1 DES (Injections) - the polypeptides IGF-LR3 and IGF-DES have a low affinity to bind to the IGFBP's, meaning they are up to 3x more potent than regular endogenous IGF-1. IGF-1LR3 also happens to have a half-life of up to 30 hours. IGF-DES is even more potent than LR3, the only downside is that it has a 30-minute half-life before it is metabolized by the body, DES also happens to be more localized, so we are going to opt for LR3 in this method as it is more systemic than DES. The combination of HGH and exogenous IGF-1 will guarantee growth. (if your plates are open of course). 50mcg daily

Levothyroxine (Tablets) - Upregulating thyroid function, might increase IGF-1 through taking it... 50mcg



T3 (Liothyronine) 25MCG X 100 Tablets [Core Anabolics] – Buy Steroids Within Australia


ozgear.is




Delta sleep inducing peptide (Nasal spray) - Used for sleeping purposes. DSIP also blocks the release of somatostatin. Somatostatins role is to lower growth hormone, so by blocking the release of this hormone, we are preventing our blood serum level of GH dropping.

Eat more protein - Protein intake increases IGF-1 levels in humans, independent of total calorie consumption. You can consider supplementing it. Glucose is needed for IGF-1 conversion.



Use an AI - Depending on your bodyfat levels, aromatasing ability, exogenous exposure to estrogen... Decide whether you need an mild AI, or stronger AI, do the bloodwork before taking it, and then take it accordingly so you don't crash your estrogen levels. YOU'LL NEED AI IF YOU HOP ON HGH !

* Letrozole is easy to source, pharma-grade can be costly though. Generic is less costly, even better, you could buy pure letrozole powder and if you have a scale you could save a shit tonne of money. 100g of straight letrozole powder costs around $80, which could last you 106 years if you dosed it every single day at 2.5mg. I've got sources so pm me if you're interested.

teens who used the letrozole had an age of 17.4 but had bone age of 15.3: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27710241 they took it for 24-36 months.

GH rapidly aged the bone, whereas GH and AI didn't. AI's seriously make a difference.

DHT-max - Basically injecting testosterone with high androgen derivates, or you can naturally DHTmax. Follow my guide to know what i'm talking about.







COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Is there a way to avoid insulin resistance while on sarms/hgh?
- Use metformin

Is usage of hgh dangerous?
- No, exogenous usage of growth hormone will never create a negative feedback loop, it doesn't affect the hypothalamus/pituitary axis the way that exogenous usage of testosterone does.

But your body can get the protein off from glucose, right?
- yeah but it's not the bodies prefered usage.

how peptides can affect your insulin sensitivity
- https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/50/8/1891
just eat a good diet, exercise and fucking sleep well, dont stress out too much, eat healthy foods especially during this time and you won't have a problem with insulin sensitivity

Is MK-677 legit
- MK677 alone is weak and should be used in conjunction with a GHRH analog or 'receptor agonist', as MK677 has a longer half-life than most Growth hormone-secretagogue-receptor agonists using it with CJC-1295 (DAC) would work well for keeping serum GH elevated. I don't recommend MK677 at all as it interferes with the insulin/GH/IGF-1 axis, it will cause insulin resistance over time, and eventually diabetes if abused.

But where are the RESULTS ???
- Results have not been shown with HGH/peptides , AI AND igf-1 lr3 because noone in this forum has ever done a stack like that (or maybe they have but they ain't telling us) nevertheless there are results from compromised versions i forgot which thread it was on tho...

The GH and AI treatment actually slowed down bone age more than actual AI itself how is that possible ?
- well high amounts of GH cause temporary hypogonadism. Could be it.

PubMed Central, Figure 4.: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2016 Dec; 101(12): 4984–4993. Published online 2016 Oct 6. doi: 10.1210/jc.2016-2891

How to measure bone age, did i stopped growing?
- http://growingupboys.info/Calculators/TannerStage.htm


Will this give me acromeghalia?
- Acromeghalia is a chad trait. Also, acromeghaly isn't just due to super high HGH levels, and IGF-1, yes they are quite important but it's mainly due to HGH and DNA hypermethylation .

Special thanks to strike Poseidon and Ethan Asia
@Henry_Gandy

I wrote this thank me later
remove this, full of misinformation bro.
 
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have you been monitoring your blood glucose levels? diabetes runs in my family and im taking mk-677 and dont wanna become a diabetic so after 8 months have u noticed a change in your insulin resistance? thanks
Ran MK-677 for 1,5 months total with Berberine. I have now been at prediabetic blood sugar levels for the past month without MK, aka shit insulin resistance.

Diabetes doesn’t even run in my family and I had a low/healthy blood sugar (4,7 mmol/L) prior to starting my dose. So it really depends on the individual. I’m 16 turning 17 btw.
 
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Ran MK-677 for 1,5 months total with Berberine. I have now been at prediabetic blood sugar levels for the past month without MK, aka shit insulin resistance.

Diabetes doesn’t even run in my family and I had a low/healthy blood sugar (4,7 mmol/L) prior to starting my dose. So it really depends on the individual. I’m 16 turning 17 btw.
And I was eating a diabetes type 2 diet and consuming little to no sugar jfl
 
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DamN it really?
How will u fix this?
Prediabetes is reversable. It takes roughly 3 years to reverse the insulin resistance with a good diet (low glycemic foods) and frequent excercise. That’s what I’ll do once I’m done with MK, still got 3 bottles left.

However if you continue eating shit food and don’t excercise you will get diabetes in 5-10 years.
 
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Dont take HGH i think exogenous Hgh dosent find the proper binding proteins for height ,so it gives u very little growth,instead the organs in the body and irregular bones grow,this is what I have read,but what u do it all depends on you .
Currently I am 179-180cm ,18 years old,wanting to get to 185, i don't have much money but thinking of running an mk677+aromasin+Huperzine and later adding cjc dac midway in the cycle.
You're saying that mk-677 is better than hgh?
 
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You're saying that mk-677 is better than hgh







:feelswhy:
From what I have read here on loóksmaxx would have to cross check it.
Here is the source
Also,i read that cjc and mk677 release hgh in pulsatile patterns which resembles male growth pattern,will have to cross check it too
 
ashwaganda is useless just makes u super horny. ive been taking it for months now and tbh I dont see any difference. Take l-citrulline instead it will open up ur blood vessels and allow you get bigger pumps in the gym. Also if you have ed it might help
 
Prediabetes is reversable. It takes roughly 3 years to reverse the insulin resistance with a good diet (low glycemic foods) and frequent excercise. That’s what I’ll do once I’m done with MK, still got 3 bottles left.

However if you continue eating shit food and don’t excercise you will get diabetes in 5-10 years.
I react badly to carbs now especially processed carbs since I went on a nocarb diet. Maybe I have insulin resistance I don't know. Maybe I've always had it, but didn't know.

Are you sure it's reversible? Because I want to be able to eat seasonal fruit like berries.
 
From what I have read here on loóksmaxx would have to cross check it.
Here is the source
Also,i read that cjc and mk677 release hgh in pulsatile patterns which resembles male growth pattern,will have to cross check it too
I will need to do proper research before deciding on what to use because I have existing problems (like insulin resistance, gyno..) that I don't want to make worse
 
I will need to do proper research before deciding on what to use because I have existing problems (like insulin resistance, gyno..) that I don't want to make worse
Good, but remeber mk677 long term usage causes hyper-glycemia,and Derek from mpmd said he experinced gyno from mk+hgh
 
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What we need:
1. Methilation
2.
3.

Strike_poseidon's stack (the best one so far):

MSM (Tablets) - is widely used in the alternative medicine field and by people looking for a natural way to relieve joint pain, reduce inflammation and boost immunity. 1000mg - Doctor's Best, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with OptiMSM, 360 Veggie Capsules
Item Price: $35.76

Glucosamine & chondroitin (Tablets) - Glucosamine and chondroitin are structural components of cartilage, the tissue that cushions the joints. Both are produced naturally in the body. They are also available as dietary supplements. 1500mg for Glucosamine /// 1200mg for chondroitin

SAM - E (enteric tabs only) - For methylation. There have been also studies showing that it redistributes mercury in the brain but there's nothing much to worry about since i'm gonna be making thread regarding heavy metal poisoning and how to detoxify yourself. Take 2 grams -
Doctor's Best, SAM-e, 200 mg, 60 Enteric Coated Tablets
Item Price: $23.84 (so $1480 yearly, 10 tablets a day)

✅ Another source (400mg // 120 tabs // Australian $98) ... Now do your own research on yearly basis cost, i'm lazy)

Xcrunner has tried on 2 of his clients in his trials(ages 15 and 17), although they had inactive plates to begin with. He Gave them 2g of sam-e enteric coated tablet form plus about 500-800mcg folic acid and pure puerarin (basically weakened form of hexarelin)..today they are now both 21 and the 17 year old is now 23. The 23 year old is 6ft 3 and still growing!, he still has the same amount of facial hair since he was 17 and no hair on his legs still His plates never became inactive as a result, and the crazy thing is, his mum is 5ft 3 and dad 5ft 6. This suggests that increasing DNA methylation will make the body continue growing as it never gets physically older to realise it's time to stop increasing proliferation so fast, so this could be a way to physical anti-aging for puberty heightmaxxing

SAM-E and MSM in some of his trials were able to make the inactive plate people grow, why? Because of articular cartilage. Inactive growth plate means they can't grow anymore unless the pubertal hormone and protein environment is made again, this can be done with the chemicals. Anyway high dose sam-e before growth plate closure is better than after, i don't know how long it'll last but take it folinic acid, folic acid and SAM-E your plates will remain open almost forever

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(Relaxin) - relaxin can give some height increase, however I think SAM-e method, even though it takes much longer to reactivate and once it does finally reactivate, chondrogenesis is seriously limited as most of cartilage is ossified so it an only rely on hyaline cartilage, anyway better than relaxin in general, nice find tho!
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Folic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Now Foods, Folic Acid, 800 mcg, 250 Tablets
Item Price: $5.06 ($11 yearly (and you are left with more))

Folinic acid (tablets) - For methylation. 800ug - Source Naturals, MegaFolinic, 120 Tablets
Item Price: $10.64 ($32 yearly)

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(L-5-MTHF) - You can use it as an replacement for folic and folinic acid
(methylfolate) - You can use it as an replacement for folic
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Glucosamine sulphate (Tablets) - Regular supplementation with glucosamine sulfate has shown to have a small to moderate effect by slowing the rate of joint cartilage degeneration if taken regularly for three years, might help you grow 3cm after plates close... 1500mg

Ecodysterone (Tablets) -

Si-Wu-tang extract (tablets) - Activates pi3k for bone formation...

Curcumin (Tablets) - 1000mg

Meclizine (Tablets) - Induces growth through some unrelated pathway, redistributes mercury (which can cause autism btw).. Take it on your own risk, but stay tuned cause i'll upload a thread on how to get rid out of heavy metals from your body, so i will confidently use meclizine. 400mg

BMP () - I have figured out how BMP can revert inactive growth plate back into MSC. $54.99

Hexarelin (injections) -

Resveratrol (Tablets) - 400mg

Rosuvastatin (Tablets) -

Doxycycline (Tablets) -

Astragalus (Tablets) - 1400mg

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ADDITIONAL TO STACK:

IGF-1 LR3 (Injections) - In other words, you'll grow, vertically and horizontally... This is why children grow rapidly during puberty. Factors that are known to cause variation in the levels of growth hormone (GH) and IGF-1 in the circulation include insulin levels, genetic make-up, the time of day, age, sex, exercise status, stress levels, nutrition level and body mass index, disease state, ethnicity, and estrogen status. https://austeroids.is/product/igf-1-lr3-1mg-vial-peptide/

I'm not going to be citing studies for IGF-1, as GH and IGF-1 fall in the same category, the GH/IGF-1 axis is what influences growth.

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..
...

Combine IGF-1 LR3 with heightmaxing stack, 100mcg daily would last you 100 days, it would cost $1400 yearly, maybe with all the shipping. Costing varies from source to source obviously, but it'd cost a shit tonne due to IGF1 Lr3 being hard to manufacture.

* IGF-1 DES (Injections) - the polypeptides IGF-LR3 and IGF-DES have a low affinity to bind to the IGFBP's, meaning they are up to 3x more potent than regular endogenous IGF-1. IGF-1LR3 also happens to have a half-life of up to 30 hours. IGF-DES is even more potent than LR3, the only downside is that it has a 30-minute half-life before it is metabolized by the body, DES also happens to be more localized, so we are going to opt for LR3 in this method as it is more systemic than DES. The combination of HGH and exogenous IGF-1 will guarantee growth. (if your plates are open of course). 50mcg daily

Levothyroxine (Tablets) - Upregulating thyroid function, might increase IGF-1 through taking it... 50mcg



T3 (Liothyronine) 25MCG X 100 Tablets [Core Anabolics] – Buy Steroids Within Australia


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Delta sleep inducing peptide (Nasal spray) - Used for sleeping purposes. DSIP also blocks the release of somatostatin. Somatostatins role is to lower growth hormone, so by blocking the release of this hormone, we are preventing our blood serum level of GH dropping.

Eat more protein - Protein intake increases IGF-1 levels in humans, independent of total calorie consumption. You can consider supplementing it. Glucose is needed for IGF-1 conversion.



Use an AI - Depending on your bodyfat levels, aromatasing ability, exogenous exposure to estrogen... Decide whether you need an mild AI, or stronger AI, do the bloodwork before taking it, and then take it accordingly so you don't crash your estrogen levels. YOU'LL NEED AI IF YOU HOP ON HGH !

* Letrozole is easy to source, pharma-grade can be costly though. Generic is less costly, even better, you could buy pure letrozole powder and if you have a scale you could save a shit tonne of money. 100g of straight letrozole powder costs around $80, which could last you 106 years if you dosed it every single day at 2.5mg. I've got sources so pm me if you're interested.

teens who used the letrozole had an age of 17.4 but had bone age of 15.3: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27710241 they took it for 24-36 months.

GH rapidly aged the bone, whereas GH and AI didn't. AI's seriously make a difference.

DHT-max - Basically injecting testosterone with high androgen derivates, or you can naturally DHTmax. Follow my guide to know what i'm talking about.







COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Is there a way to avoid insulin resistance while on sarms/hgh?
- Use metformin

Is usage of hgh dangerous?
- No, exogenous usage of growth hormone will never create a negative feedback loop, it doesn't affect the hypothalamus/pituitary axis the way that exogenous usage of testosterone does.

But your body can get the protein off from glucose, right?
- yeah but it's not the bodies prefered usage.

how peptides can affect your insulin sensitivity
- https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/50/8/1891
just eat a good diet, exercise and fucking sleep well, dont stress out too much, eat healthy foods especially during this time and you won't have a problem with insulin sensitivity

Is MK-677 legit
- MK677 alone is weak and should be used in conjunction with a GHRH analog or 'receptor agonist', as MK677 has a longer half-life than most Growth hormone-secretagogue-receptor agonists using it with CJC-1295 (DAC) would work well for keeping serum GH elevated. I don't recommend MK677 at all as it interferes with the insulin/GH/IGF-1 axis, it will cause insulin resistance over time, and eventually diabetes if abused.

But where are the RESULTS ???
- Results have not been shown with HGH/peptides , AI AND igf-1 lr3 because noone in this forum has ever done a stack like that (or maybe they have but they ain't telling us) nevertheless there are results from compromised versions i forgot which thread it was on tho...

The GH and AI treatment actually slowed down bone age more than actual AI itself how is that possible ?
- well high amounts of GH cause temporary hypogonadism. Could be it.

PubMed Central, Figure 4.: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2016 Dec; 101(12): 4984–4993. Published online 2016 Oct 6. doi: 10.1210/jc.2016-2891

How to measure bone age, did i stopped growing?
- http://growingupboys.info/Calculators/TannerStage.htm


Will this give me acromeghalia?
- Acromeghalia is a chad trait. Also, acromeghaly isn't just due to super high HGH levels, and IGF-1, yes they are quite important but it's mainly due to HGH and DNA hypermethylation .

Special thanks to strike Poseidon and Ethan Asia
@Henry_Gandy

I wrote this thank me later
Caged at this mf finding all the shit forum hormone aspies and @Henry_Gandy did over the past yr and not even that CAGED at the fact, he created an faq and use y'all posts to answer it:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:

@Henry_Gandy lul my nigga
 
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Ran MK-677 for 1,5 months total with Berberine. I have now been at prediabetic blood sugar levels for the past month without MK, aka shit insulin resistance.

Diabetes doesn’t even run in my family and I had a low/healthy blood sugar (4,7 mmol/L) prior to starting my dose. So it really depends on the individual. I’m 16 turning 17 btw.
mk-677 is dogshit ur legit begigng for diabetes jfl why tf did u even run it in the first place, jokes on you.
 
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okay so considering i have been eating like normal western diet while taking mk and no berberine and not testing my blood glucose, sounds like i might become a diabetic if i don't stop soon. thanks!
And I was eating a diabetes type 2 diet and consuming little to no sugar jfl
 
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omg....words cannot explain how stupid this stack is
 
You need to stack another GH secretagogue, MPMD has a protocol that seems fine.
 
The only thing in your "stack" that isn't cope is adex. You could try replacing MK-677 with CJC-1295 + ipamorelin, add P-5-P, L-5-MTHF, methylcobalamin and TMG and increase your magnesium, potassium and choline intake while eating at least at maintenance calories, but there's no guarantee it'll work
 
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The only thing in your "stack" that isn't cope is adex. You could try replacing MK-677 with CJC-1295 + ipamorelin, add P-5-P, L-5-MTHF, methylcobalamin and TMG and increase your magnesium, potassium and choline intake while eating at least at maintenance calories, but there's no guarantee it'll work
Adex is shit,reduces igf1 by 28%,aromasin is better, increases igf1 by 18%
 
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did @Henry_Gandy and his heightmaxxing cult retire?
 
Hello, I introduce myself I am 17 years old I was doing the following stack for 8 months:

MK 677 (10-25mg) every day
Melatonin (3 mg) 5 times a week
Anastrozole (1 mg) 3 times a week
D3 + K2 (5000 iu) every day

View attachment 1487994

At the beginning I did not feel the effects of MK 677, it is more I had insomnia and anxiety compared to today that I feel pulsations in my legs, arms and spine I wake up refreshed as if I will add 4 more hours of sleep, accompany with melatonin all this time to fall asleep and empower hgh, there are days when I feel like shit, depressed and frustrated I just go for a run and it goes away. At school I was 1.70 at 16 years old and weighed just 55 kilos, currently I gain considerable muscle and I measure 1.74, I went to get my identity document where I was standing in line for almost 3 hours there they measured me, I think I can be 1.75 strong in the mornings.

My goal is 1.80, I play soccer every weekend, all my cousins were much taller than me now after the pandemic I am intermediate, the highest is 1.81 weak. I have no idea how to run the following peptides, I have infinite money, please recommend me a dose that does not screw me so much.

View attachment 1487999

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s/ 210 = 60 $

I will also add Ashwagandha and Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) to my stack

Recommend peptides or how to execute correctly, it is greatly appreciated


soon I will post my progress with photos and videos.
You are 174cm and Asian. Be glad. That's pretty good for asian standards...
 
¿Que eres? Pareces curry o algo del medio oriente o del norte de África...
I am from Latam, the most shitty third-world continent, in my photo I am 15 years old, I put it to make a comparison when I finish ascending
 
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Ran MK-677 for 1,5 months total with Berberine. I have now been at prediabetic blood sugar levels for the past month without MK, aka shit insulin resistance.

Diabetes doesn’t even run in my family and I had a low/healthy blood sugar (4,7 mmol/L) prior to starting my dose. So it really depends on the individual. I’m 16 turning 17 btw.
Stop this cope man just take 20 mg Arginin before bedtime to catch 75% more HGH during deep sleep hours, efficiency during 6+ hours
 
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I am from Latam, the most shitty third-world continent, in my photo I am 15 years old, I put it to make a comparison when I finish ascending
What is the median male height in Latin America? Probably something around 1.75m?
 

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