The money isn't in writing code with AI, it's in needing 5 people instead of 30 to do the same work and pocketing the difference. You can build a company now with AI at the heart of it and employees just guiding it. The real skill is knowing what's worth building in the first place, AI just makes the execution fast and cheap. For developing AI skills, I'm a top 0.1% ChatGPT user and the honest answer is just use it for everything (writing, research, code, decisions) until it becomes second nature in as many aspects of your life as possible and you'll start seeing opportunities other people miss. Everything is definitely more complicated than I made it out to be. I manage a team of devs I pay 150k+ each now. The people who truly know how to direct AI in the right way at the highest level are rare, but ironically it's not hard to get to that level.
Thanks, I’ll try to research more
Claude Code solos everything, it handles backend, multi-file refactors, and architecture stuff amazingly. For UI refinements on the frontend you want Cursor since you can see changes live and easily paste in screenshots or have it use its built in browser to inspect its work. If you're starting from scratch V0/Lovable are way more talented at design than traditional coding agents, but since they're third party websites you need to pull the prototype into Cursor to actually make it scalable. Stack all three and you're set. I personally use Claude Code for 95% of my changes, but I built out my entire MVP and raised just using cursor because I didn't know believe Claude Code was marginally better at the time. If you are running the terminal version you can open multiple up and have them working on multiple tasks in different parts of the codebase simultaneously.
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This isn't a "how to make $300 from drop shipping/reselling" thread. If you're not genuinely trying to build something real, this probably isn't for you. Also if you're not high IQ deadass just stop reading here and value your time. But if you're one of the few people on this forum who actually has the drive to do something with their life, carry on. I'm not gonna gatekeep too much.
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- Why I Dropped Out of a T1 University -
Search up Top CS schools, mine is there. I wasn't failing. In fact, I won every term project and hackathon my last semester there. I left on purpose.
Here's why: AI is going to eliminate 95% of software engineering jobs in due time. Not just software, but almost all white collar work in general. The genius CEO's I meet regularly know it too and couldn't care less. The remaining 5% of SWE roles are going to be no-life wageslaves grinding 80 hour weeks competing with a million other devs for scraps while AI does the work of entire engineering teams. Meanwhile the rest of the world will be dealing with unpredictable automation driven layoffs. I'm very confident in this vision of the future. It might seem obvious, yet when I look around no one is actually doing anything about this, and just lazily carrying on with their life hoping it will work out. If you don't want your wife leaving you in the future because you can't pay the bills, you need to take control of your own destiny.
So instead of sitting in lectures learning concepts that'll be obsolete before I graduate, I dropped out and decided I'm going to be the one the profiting off AI replacing the job market.
Less than 60 days later I had $2M in the bank from some of the most serious investors in tech. I already bought myself a motorcycle with their money and moved into a luxury 9k a month San Francisco apartment JFL. Billionaire angels who've built companies you've definitely heard of. Venture Capital Firms that carry worldwide prestige.
Due to industry giants like Anthropic and OpenAI's recent announcements, the fundraising opportunities are getting more difficult, but the rapidly closing window is still open.
Scaling AI for everyone
Today we’re announcing $110B in new investment at a $730B pre money valuation. This includes $30B from SoftBank, $30B from NVIDIA, and $50B from Amazon.openai.com
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- How It Actually Happened (The Real Version) -
Not gonna reveal what the company does or who the customers are for obvious reasons. But I'm gonna be more honest with you guys than I would be anywhere else because this is an alt and idgaf
● I barely wrote any of the code myself.
Maybe 5% of it. The rest? I found a solid open source repository that already did 80% of what I needed, forked it, built on top of it, and positioned the whole thing as our proprietary tech. Then polish and add in your own features with an AI tool of your choice. This is not some shameful secret — this is how the game works. Almost every startup you've heard of started by building on top of existing open source. The difference is whether you're smart enough to pick the right foundation and skilled enough to make it look like a product worth millions.
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● Investors are not programmers.
This is the part nobody tells you. The people writing $500K+ checks are finance guys, ex-operators, former founders
The Co-Founder Conundrum: Sam Altman's Guide to Startup Partnerships
In the high-stakes world of startups, few decisions matter more than choosing the right co-founder. Sam Altman—former president of Y Combinator and current CEO of OpenAI—has seen thousands of startups rise and fall. His insights are not just opinions; they are data-backed wisdom that can...www.startupbell.net
● Sold to people who already spend money.
Our customers are enterprises that drop hundreds of thousands per engagement without thinking twice. If your business plan involves selling to broke consumers, especially if you're a dumbass building a study tool or dating app you're going to have a bad time. There's nothing worse than selling to a penny pincher, they're broke and will heavily scrutinize your product. Find problems that companies or wealthy buyers already pay to solve. Then solve it cheaper, better, and faster. Do not make a product or service that is a thin layer on top of an LLM giant like Anthropic. Your product will not exist in 2 years even if it seems like a good idea now.
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- What I'd Do If I Was 16 On This Forum Right Now -
If you're young and on forums like this you 're sitting on a gold mine. Here's what actually matters:
● Schoolmaxx. Hard. Your GPA and SAT are literally your life right now.
I know this sounds like something your parents would say but hear me out. The only reason investors believed in me — a 21 year old with no track record — is because I had a T1 school on my resume. That credential alone bought me credibility I hadn't earned yet. If I went to an average state school, I would have stood zero chance. The absolute best case for a student at one of those is a job at Capital One or IBM, and you'd have to fight for even that. Barely even FAANG. Your school name is a cheat code for the rest of your life whether you use the degree or not. I dropped out and it still carries weight. Lock in on GPA and SAT scores like your future depends on it, because it genuinely does. If it means your looks are temporarily suboptimal to attain this, so be it.
● You don't need to "learn to code" in the traditional sense anymore.
Vibecoding is real. You can build functional products right now by sitting at your computer for 16 hours straight describing what you want to AI and iterating on the output. Many of us on this forum are already specialists at sitting in front of a screen for unhealthy amounts of time — congratulations, that's now a marketable skill. The barrier to building software has basically collapsed. The advantage goes to whoever has the most insane tolerance for sitting in a chair and grinding on a problem until it's solved. Just don't read this and start building a product thinking you're going to make it because you honestly won't, building your network needs to be done as well which is way more important and most pre seed startups don't even need a product to raise money, it's more about the people. I personally run multiple Claude Code terminals, and use cursor for fine tuning the UI. Be willing to bootstrap money for frontier models, I spent 2k on tokens before ever speaking to an investor.
● Stop consuming. Start producing.
Every hour you spend scrolling this forum reading about money is an hour you're not making any. The information game has diminishing returns. At some point you just have to go build the thing. One of my biggest regrets is spending 6000+ hours on Fortnite in high school. I became one of the best in North America and gained basically nothing in retrospect. Thoroughly evaluate how you spend your free time and fix that shit, especially if you have a friend group of bums, it's far better to be alone than surrounded by weak minded people.
● Make a LinkedIn.
Be careful it's very easy to be cringe here. If you make a substantial achievement share it here, otherwise just spam connection requests. My team didn't post once on here and were fine.
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- Looksmaxxing Update -
Since this is .org I might as well. Got rated a split between HMTN and LHTN on here before on my main. Currently dating the most attractive girl at my entire university HHTB-SL and I say that with zero bias — multiple guys told me that independently before I even met her. Also helps that 90% of my uni was subhuman.
Here's what actually moved the needle for me out of everything I tried:
● Gymcelling — by far the highest ROI softmaxx. Nothing else comes close.
● Accutane — cleared my skin completely. Should be mandatory for anyone with even minor acne.
● Lifts — just don't use AF1's, get shoes like Blazers that cover your ankles so you can use 2.5 inch inserts and look natty. Also wear baggy pants that cover your ankles and it's 100% undetectable.
● Peptides — running CJC-1295 IPA no DAC, Semax, and GHK-Cu currently. CJC is the only one I've noticed a significant difference with.
I've tried basically everything else this forum recommends and I'll be honest — the basics above are really all that matter. 90% of the advanced stuff people obsess on here like lipmaxxing aren't worth the work compared to just being lean, having clear skin, and not being short.
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If you have questions drop them below — I'll come back and answer.
Genuinely the highest value thread I've actually ever read, applies to me perfectly.View attachment 4760973
This isn't a "how to make $300 from drop shipping/reselling" thread
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- Why I Dropped Out of a T1 University -
Search up Top CS schools, mine is there. I wasn't failing. In fact, I won every term project and hackathon my last semester there. I left on purpose.
Here's why: AI is going to eliminate 95% of software engineering jobs in due time. Not just software, but almost all white collar work in general. The genius CEO's I meet regularly know it too and couldn't care less. The remaining 5% of SWE roles are going to be no-life wageslaves grinding 80 hour weeks competing with a million other devs for scraps while AI does the work of entire engineering teams. Meanwhile the rest of the world will be dealing with unpredictable automation driven layoffs. I'm very confident in this vision of the future. It might seem obvious, yet when I look around no one is actually doing anything about this, and just lazily carrying on with their life hoping it will work out. If you don't want your wife leaving you in the future because you can't pay the bills, you need to take control of your own destiny.
So instead of sitting in lectures learning concepts that'll be obsolete before I graduate, I dropped out and decided I'm going to be the one the profiting off AI replacing the job market.
Less than 60 days later I had $2M in the bank from some of the most serious investors in tech. I already bought myself a motorcycle with their money and moved into a luxury 9k a month San Francisco apartment JFL. Billionaire angels who've built companies you've definitely heard of. Venture Capital Firms that carry worldwide prestige.
Due to industry giants like Anthropic and OpenAI's recent announcements, the fundraising opportunities are getting more difficult, but the rapidly closing window is still open.
Scaling AI for everyone
Today we’re announcing $110B in new investment at a $730B pre money valuation. This includes $30B from SoftBank, $30B from NVIDIA, and $50B from Amazon.
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- How It Actually Happened (The Real Version) -
Not gonna reveal what the company does or who the customers are for obvious reasons. But I'm gonna be more honest with you guys than I would be anywhere else because this is an alt and idgaf
● I barely wrote any of the code myself.
Maybe 5% of it. The rest? I found a solid open source repository that already did 80% of what I needed, forked it, built on top of it, and positioned the whole thing as our proprietary tech. Then polish and add in your own features with an AI tool of your choice. This is not some shameful secret — this is how the game works. Almost every startup you've heard of started by building on top of existing open source. The difference is whether you're smart enough to pick the right foundation and skilled enough to make it look like a product worth millions.
View attachment 4760957
● Investors are not programmers.
This is the part nobody tells you. The people writing $500K+ checks are finance guys, ex-operators, former founders
The Co-Founder Conundrum: Sam Altman's Guide to Startup Partnerships
In the high-stakes world of startups, few decisions matter more than choosing the right co-founder. Sam Altman—former president of Y Combinator and current CEO of OpenAI—has seen thousands of startups rise and fall. His insights are not just opinions; they are data-backed wisdom that can...
● Sold to people who already spend money.
Our customers are enterprises that drop hundreds of thousands per engagement without thinking twice. If your business plan involves selling to broke consumers, especially if you're a dumbass building a study tool or dating app you're going to have a bad time. There's nothing worse than selling to a penny pincher, they're broke and will heavily scrutinize your product. Find problems that companies or wealthy buyers already pay to solve. Then solve it cheaper, better, and faster. Do not make a product or service that is a thin layer on top of an LLM giant like Anthropic. Your product will not exist in 2 years even if it seems like a good idea now.
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- What I'd Do If I Was 16 On This Forum Right Now -
If you're young and on forums like this you 're sitting on a gold mine. Here's what actually matters:
● Schoolmaxx. Hard. Your GPA and SAT are literally your life right now.
I know this sounds like something your parents would say but hear me out. The only reason investors believed in me — a 21 year old with no track record — is because I had a T1 school on my resume. That credential alone bought me credibility I hadn't earned yet. If I went to an average state school, I would have stood zero chance. The absolute best case for a student at one of those is a job at Capital One or IBM, and you'd have to fight for even that. Barely even FAANG. Your school name is a cheat code for the rest of your life whether you use the degree or not. I dropped out and it still carries weight. Lock in on GPA and SAT scores like your future depends on it, because it genuinely does. If it means your looks are temporarily suboptimal to attain this, so be it.
● You don't need to "learn to code" in the traditional sense anymore.
Vibecoding is real. You can build functional products right now by sitting at your computer for 16 hours straight describing what you want to AI and iterating on the output. Many of us on this forum are already specialists at sitting in front of a screen for unhealthy amounts of time — congratulations, that's now a marketable skill. The barrier to building software has basically collapsed. The advantage goes to whoever has the most insane tolerance for sitting in a chair and grinding on a problem until it's solved. Just don't read this and start building a product thinking you're going to make it because you honestly won't, building your network needs to be done as well which is way more important and most pre seed startups don't even need a product to raise money, it's more about the people. I personally run multiple Claude Code terminals, and use cursor for fine tuning the UI. Be willing to bootstrap money for frontier models, I spent 2k on tokens before ever speaking to an investor.
● Stop consuming. Start producing.
Every hour you spend scrolling this forum reading about money is an hour you're not making any. The information game has diminishing returns. At some point you just have to go build the thing. One of my biggest regrets is spending 6000+ hours on Fortnite in high school. I became one of the best in North America and gained basically nothing in retrospect. Thoroughly evaluate how you spend your free time and fix that shit, especially if you have a friend group of bums, it's far better to be alone than surrounded by weak minded people.
● Make a LinkedIn.
Be careful it's very easy to be cringe here. If you make a substantial achievement share it here, otherwise just spam connection requests. My team didn't post once on here and were fine.
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- Looksmaxxing Update -
Since this is .org I might as well. Got rated a split between HMTN and LHTN on here before on my main. Currently dating the most attractive girl at my entire university HHTB-SL and I say that with zero bias — multiple guys told me that independently before I even met her. Also helps that 90% of my uni was subhuman.
Here's what actually moved the needle for me out of everything I tried:
● Gymcelling — by far the highest ROI softmaxx. Nothing else comes close.
● Accutane — cleared my skin completely. Should be mandatory for anyone with even minor acne.
● Lifts — just don't use AF1's, get shoes like Blazers that cover your ankles so you can use 2.5 inch inserts and look natty. Also wear baggy pants that cover your ankles and it's 100% undetectable.
● Peptides — running CJC-1295 IPA no DAC, Semax, and GHK-Cu currently. CJC is the only one I've noticed a significant difference with.
I've tried basically everything else this forum recommends and I'll be honest — the basics above are really all that matter. 90% of the advanced stuff people obsess on here like lipmaxxing aren't worth the work compared to just being lean, having clear skin, and not being short.
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If you have questions drop them below — I'll come back and answer.
Thanks. If the apps are B2C focused (made for the general population) then your goal should be to generate as much attention as possible for them, so having a LinkedIn presence is a must. It would be much better to hire people and creators to do this for you instead of jestering yourself. Meanwhile if the apps are B2B focused (selling to businesses) your app popping up on a random's feed is pretty useless so posting about it can be avoided mostly. Regardless, the best route to take for either option would be to get in front of investors who can give you the capital to scale your product and team, things will naturally fall into place from there. It's a very ubiquitous concept that investors never want to be the first mover, why would they invest in you if no one else has? It will take a ton of effort to get that first one but from there it's 100x easier. The game is very people oriented, so you usually have to get investors or founders to intro you to other investors. It sucks when you're not in those circles but once you break in it's so easy.
MCPs aren't really a game changer for building in my experience, but they're fun to mess around with. I used the shadcn MCP to get more accurate frontend components generated which was nice. With Playwright MCP, Cursor released a built-in browser that does basically all the same stuff without burning extra tokens, so I'd just use that instead unless you're a claude code user. I think MCP's are much more powerful when actually embedded inside of the application you're building. For example, if you have a platform which has AI chat, users can feed in context from MCPs like Google Drive, Slack, and whatever other tools they use directly into your app so their live data can be utilized.2 worlds collide. Any specific MCP and skills you used that helped with your building? I was gonna use PlayRight to see how it looks as I build, but heard it burns through tokens. Also, do you have any other tips regarding building and learning about this type of stuff.
