I really don’t like the whole incel shit

[Deleted member 4362]

I really really don't like the whole "incel" shit.

Recently saw a post somewhere else talking about incel, and every time I hear or see that term it just makes me so angry. It's really not that you're involuntarily celibate guys, often it's that you're a sexist idiot who doesn't know how to interact in any semblance of a healthy way with women. I have a really, really hard time accepting that word and everything that goes along with it. I don't think I'm the only one. Any thoughts ?

 

[height]

So your conclusion is that people should just call incels ugly aspie losers

 

[Deleted member 4362]

So your conclusion is that people should just call incels ugly aspie losers

The community itself is also spectacularly depressing. It's so toxic and people seem to join initially in part to have their own negative self-perceptions validated. They feel disgusting and hideous, and then they join this group in which people agree with them, but it's okay because they are too. And then they get caught up in this culture of blaming society for all their problems, particularly women, and never consider how their own actions and perspectives may impact their lives. It's basically brainwashing, it's like a cult of incredibly lonely, bitter and sad men. As a guy, I'm kind of drawn to want to find someway to support them to escape it, but misery is addictive and it loves company.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I really really don't like the whole "incel" shit.

Recently saw a post somewhere else talking about incel, and every time I hear or see that term it just makes me so angry. It's really not that you're involuntarily celibate guys, often it's that you're a sexist idiot who doesn't know how to interact in any semblance of a healthy way with women. I have a really, really hard time accepting that word and everything that goes along with it. I don't think I'm the only one. Any thoughts ?

Its not about hating women it's about being socially autistic.

 

[height]

The community itself is also spectacularly depressing. It's so toxic and people seem to join initially in part to have their own negative self-perceptions validated. They feel disgusting and hideous, and then they join this group in which people agree with them, but it's okay because they are too. And then they get caught up in this culture of blaming society for all their problems, particularly women, and never consider how their own actions and perspectives may impact their lives. It's basically brainwashing, it's like a cult of incredibly lonely, bitter and sad men. As a guy, I'm kind of drawn to want to find someway to support them to escape it, but misery is addictive and it loves company.

I´m founding a PSL guild and no women will ever be allowed

I want to make a group based on Honour,Honesty and Brotherhood Guys helping and motivating eachother. You can be at any stage in your life but you have to be serious. If you join you have to be active and keep it real. No women allowed, no self-pity allowed, no self-hatred allowed, no bragging...

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Its not about hating women it's about being socially autistic.

The "Black Pilled" Incel community is fascinating and horrifying in the same way that you'd be fascinated and horrified by, say, ISIS. Like, you look at them and wonder "how did your tormented brain get this way?" At first, I felt some inkling of sympathy for some of the Incel guys because a lot of them will disclose that it's not really the inability to get laid that is the problem, it's the fact that no woman finds them valuable enough to ratify their worth with her love. But then they make themselves impossible to pity by being completely and utterly vile, contemptible, and violent. I remember visiting one of their forums so that I could understand them better, and when I tried to express some modicum of sympathy for one particular guy who wasn't violent or misogynistic I got instantly banned. "No sympathy allowed." Weird.

For most of them, I really do feel like their anger and depression doesn't come from just not getting laid, but a feeling that they lack purpose in their lives. "Getting a girlfriend" is just short hand for "a woman determined you were valuable enough to be your girlfriend." And so what do you do with that despondency and feelings of worthlessness? Sometimes rage feels better than profound depression.

What's perhaps not helpful is that there is no constructive place for these guys to land. I remember taking gender studies courses back in college and being surprised that virtually none of what I read attempted to help heterosexual white men understand themselves (except to just itemize all the things that were wrong with them) or help them find meaning in their lives. Basically, there is no movement or intellectual tradition on the left that makes any effort whatsoever to catch these guys. The far right is willing to listen and paint a narrative of the world where their woes "aren't their own fault," so it stands to reason that this is where they end up. It's kinda like the classic, restless young Muslim kid in Europe who isn't particularly religious, but because there was a Jihadi there to listen to his woes, he was opened to extreme right wing ideas.

I'm not really sure what to do or feel about Incels, especially since they generally will even throw your sympathy back in your face.

 

[House Lannister]

inceltears tier post

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I´m founding a PSL guild and no women will ever be allowed

I want to make a group based on Honour,Honesty and Brotherhood Guys helping and motivating eachother. You can be at any stage in your life but you have to be serious. If you join you have to be active and keep it real. No women allowed, no self-pity allowed, no self-hatred allowed, no bragging...

looksmax.org

I got into a heated argument with an incel on here. He messaged me privately and at first he was really hateful, but I talked him down. When we got to talking I found out he was 14 years old. 14 fucking years old. These older men are getting into these young minds and fucking them up before they even have a chance. It infuriates me.

 

[Deleted member 4362]

inceltears tier post

Full disclosure I'm a large man, and as such I've considered myself some variation of involuntarily celibate for years. That having been said here's my take on incels and those who refer to themselves as such:

When I first heard about them I thought "These are my guys, others who understand what it's like to not even be considered as boyfriend material."
Then I found out what they were about I noped the hell out of there. Just, I have never seen that kind of toxic hostility towards women before, and I cannot fathom the mind who thinks that if they could just get laid it would solve all their problems.

I wish I had someone to hug, and kiss, and say 'I love you' to, but I'm not bitter about it, I don't blame women for not wanting me, I also have no problem communicating with or respecting women.

I may be involuntarily celibate, but these guys are f***ing crazy. So yeah I agree with you.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

The "Black Pilled" Incel community is fascinating and horrifying in the same way that you'd be fascinated and horrified by, say, ISIS. Like, you look at them and wonder "how did your tormented brain get this way?" At first, I felt some inkling of sympathy for some of the Incel guys because a lot of them will disclose that it's not really the inability to get laid that is the problem, it's the fact that no woman finds them valuable enough to ratify their worth with her love. But then they make themselves impossible to pity by being completely and utterly vile, contemptible, and violent. I remember visiting one of their forums so that I could understand them better, and when I tried to express some modicum of sympathy for one particular guy who wasn't violent or misogynistic I got instantly banned. "No sympathy allowed." Weird.

For most of them, I really do feel like their anger and depression doesn't come from just not getting laid, but a feeling that they lack purpose in their lives. "Getting a girlfriend" is just short hand for "a woman determined you were valuable enough to be your girlfriend." And so what do you do with that despondency and feelings of worthlessness? Sometimes rage feels better than profound depression.

What's perhaps not helpful is that there is no constructive place for these guys to land. I remember taking gender studies courses back in college and being surprised that virtually none of what I read attempted to help heterosexual white men understand themselves (except to just itemize all the things that were wrong with them) or help them find meaning in their lives. Basically, there is no movement or intellectual tradition on the left that makes any effort whatsoever to catch these guys. The far right is willing to listen and paint a narrative of the world where their woes "aren't their own fault," so it stands to reason that this is where they end up. It's kinda like the classic, restless young Muslim kid in Europe who isn't particularly religious, but because there was a Jihadi there to listen to his woes, he was opened to extreme right wing ideas.

I'm not really sure what to do or feel about Incels, especially since they generally will even throw your sympathy back in your face.

Dnrd but none of that is true it's just social autism that prevents us from having any game.

Being ugly makes it difficult to practice as well.

Most mtn guys can get a girl I agree

 

[wollet2]

The "Black Pilled" Incel community is fascinating and horrifying in the same way that you'd be fascinated and horrified by, say, ISIS. Like, you look at them and wonder "how did your tormented brain get this way?" At first, I felt some inkling of sympathy for some of the Incel guys because a lot of them will disclose that it's not really the inability to get laid that is the problem, it's the fact that no woman finds them valuable enough to ratify their worth with her love. But then they make themselves impossible to pity by being completely and utterly vile, contemptible, and violent. I remember visiting one of their forums so that I could understand them better, and when I tried to express some modicum of sympathy for one particular guy who wasn't violent or misogynistic I got instantly banned. "No sympathy allowed." Weird.

For most of them, I really do feel like their anger and depression doesn't come from just not getting laid, but a feeling that they lack purpose in their lives. "Getting a girlfriend" is just short hand for "a woman determined you were valuable enough to be your girlfriend." And so what do you do with that despondency and feelings of worthlessness? Sometimes rage feels better than profound depression.

What's perhaps not helpful is that there is no constructive place for these guys to land. I remember taking gender studies courses back in college and being surprised that virtually none of what I read attempted to help heterosexual white men understand themselves (except to just itemize all the things that were wrong with them) or help them find meaning in their lives. Basically, there is no movement or intellectual tradition on the left that makes any effort whatsoever to catch these guys. The far right is willing to listen and paint a narrative of the world where their woes "aren't their own fault," so it stands to reason that this is where they end up. It's kinda like the classic, restless young Muslim kid in Europe who isn't particularly religious, but because there was a Jihadi there to listen to his woes, he was opened to extreme right wing ideas.

I'm not really sure what to do or feel about Incels, especially since they generally will even throw your sympathy back in your face.

Amazing post by a amazing woman. Cant be found in this frum

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Dnrd but none of that is true it's just social autism that prevents us from having any game.

Being ugly makes it difficult to practice as well.

Most mtn guys can get a girl I agree

Incel has become a dangerous subculture, there was a series talking about this on the BBC a while back and the most common theme seemed to be men looking for help (which did not exist) falling into almost cult-like forums in the darkest places of the internet. It seems to follow the same pattern that facilitates the disenfranchised being easily indoctrinated into terrorist cells or gangs.

There are many reasons someone can be alone but not want to be and a more positive label/subculture may help some people, but I've no idea how such a group could be set up without it becoming infected by the nihilistic Incel community.

I prefer the term confirmed bachelor

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Amazing post by a amazing woman. Cant be found in this frum

I don't think anyone likes the incel thing.

It seems just to be an excuse for some people to ignore their shitty attitude or lack of a drive for self improvement.

That women should fall all over them just for being the people they are.

When I had horrible luck with women in my college years, I started swimming for fitness, got a license as a massage practitioner, and took bartending classes.

That all completely backfired as I hurt my wrists after getting my license and the job as a bartender ended up being for a catering company for the LGBT community. Though that was probably the most fun job I've ever had.

The swimming was good just to get me in shape and years later I got married to a girl who hated massages, preferred beer to cocktails, and couldn't swim... Though she said what first attracted her to me were my 'swimmer's shoulders.'

Just be a better person, and even if you hit a dozen speed bumps along the way, just keep moving forward and you'll eventually get where you are going.

 

[Deleted member 18244]

Jfl @ the people falling for this bait

 

[House Lannister]

Full disclosure I'm a large man, and as such I've considered myself some variation of involuntarily celibate for years. That having been said here's my take on incels and those who refer to themselves as such:

When I first heard about them I thought "These are my guys, others who understand what it's like to not even be considered as boyfriend material."
Then I found out what they were about I noped the hell out of there. Just, I have never seen that kind of toxic hostility towards women before, and I cannot fathom the mind who thinks that if they could just get laid it would solve all their problems.

I wish I had someone to hug, and kiss, and say 'I love you' to, but I'm not bitter about it, I don't blame women for not wanting me, I also have no problem communicating with or respecting women.

I may be involuntarily celibate, but these guys are f***ing crazy. So yeah I agree with you.

You tell them sweaty.

 

[House Lannister]

Y’all men just got small dicks that’s why u hate women Period

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Incel has become a dangerous subculture, there was a series talking about this on the BBC a while back and the most common theme seemed to be men looking for help (which did not exist) falling into almost cult-like forums in the darkest places of the internet. It seems to follow the same pattern that facilitates the disenfranchised being easily indoctrinated into terrorist cells or gangs.

There are many reasons someone can be alone but not want to be and a more positive label/subculture may help some people, but I've no idea how such a group could be set up without it becoming infected by the nihilistic Incel community.

I prefer the term confirmed bachelor

Read 2 sentences and you're just ranting about extremist shit that is not accurate for anyone but a small minority and not addressing what I said

 

[House Lannister]

Read 2 sentences and you're just ranting about extremist shit that is not accurate for anyone but a small minority and not addressing what I said

Small dick alert Period sis Preach

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

@LilChico you on Addy rn?

 

[RAITEIII]

Chad issues. I wish I could care about this.

 

[wollet2]

I don't think anyone likes the incel thing.

It seems just to be an excuse for some people to ignore their shitty attitude or lack of a drive for self improvement.

That women should fall all over them just for being the people they are.

When I had horrible luck with women in my college years, I started swimming for fitness, got a license as a massage practitioner, and took bartending classes.

That all completely backfired as I hurt my wrists after getting my license and the job as a bartender ended up being for a catering company for the LGBT community. Though that was probably the most fun job I've ever had.

The swimming was good just to get me in shape and years later I got married to a girl who hated massages, preferred beer to cocktails, and couldn't swim... Though she said what first attracted her to me were my 'swimmer's shoulders.'

Just be a better person, and even if you hit a dozen speed bumps along the way, just keep moving forward and you'll eventually get where you are going.

Terrible post from first few sentences then it reveals its a man writing. Classic

 

[wollet2]

Y’all men just got small dicks that’s why u hate women Period

By the way i am trolling in most of my posts, im borderline misogynist and this is probably the only partially correct thing they get. Dickpill is just too brutal

 

[House Lannister]

By the way i am trolling in most of my posts, im borderline misogynist and this is probably the only partially correct thing they get. Dickpill is just too brutal

I will worry about dickpill when I can get to that stage

 

[wollet2]

I will worry about dickpill when I can get to that stage

Tbh its better being incel and never expose to it as a dickcel. Its just traumatising

 

[Deleted member 1851]

The community itself is also spectacularly depressing. It's so toxic and people seem to join initially in part to have their own negative self-perceptions validated. They feel disgusting and hideous, and then they join this group in which people agree with them, but it's okay because they are too. And then they get caught up in this culture of blaming society for all their problems, particularly women, and never consider how their own actions and perspectives may impact their lives. It's basically brainwashing, it's like a cult of incredibly lonely, bitter and sad men. As a guy, I'm kind of drawn to want to find someway to support them to escape it, but misery is addictive and it loves company.

looksmaxxing is about recognizing you are the problem and improving yourself, not saying that women are the problem.