I started with PSL forums in 2013, my biggest advice : DONT SPEND YOUR LIFE HERE

[Nation]

I have rumination ocd and I spent years asking the same questions over and over ( I already do that... spinning topics once in a while).
No skills earned, no surgeries done except lasik, I didnt do anything other that what I already did before. Just more mental masturbation, some things even made me look like a jester/weird...like leanmaxing ( which Is useless of you're 5'8/9" manlet, It makes you appear like a kid ).
Or minox on face which give me good beard except for the fact I have nasolabial folds and wrinkles now.


Well, dont let your obsession about look control your Life or this would be your Life.
No amount of CBT, meditation, psichedelics or surgeries would give you the years you spent doing nothing and ruminating about your thoughts.

Life your Life even as an incel now, its Better to receive rejection than lay down and rot. Get some skills, earn some Money, get a Lefort3 if you Need It...and dont lose anymore time.

At 30 I'm living like a kid and going to clubs, trips exc...all things that makes me look like an old tryhard next to 20 years old Kids.

And no, you re not old as you look. You cant fucking trigger your brain believing your 20 while you re 30.

 

[Deleted member 40471]

I can't move an inch before looksmaxed as of the rest 80% of living man.

Socialising is cope until a certain threshold.

I can clearly imagine my confidence and life experience 180' changed after fixing my proportions and maxilla. No one 'Enjoys' being here except for forum chads

 

[mortis]

im here just to shitpost

 

[pentamogged9000]

no surgeries done except lasik,

Do you have before and after?

 

[ElTruecel]

Cope

 

[mvp2v1]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

 

[Lookologist003]

And no, you re not old as you look. You cant fucking trigger your brain believing your 20 while you re 30.

Yes you are. If you look ten years younger than you are, that's how you will be treated.
Who would refuse having the wisdom of a thirty year old, while having the social graces of a twenty year old?
Also I think your life was destined to be shit because you have a serious case of OCD.

 

[colton myers]

I have rumination ocd and I spent years asking the same questions over and over ( I already do that... spinning topics once in a while).
No skills earned, no surgeries done except lasik, I didnt do anything other that what I already did before. Just more mental masturbation, some things even made me look like a jester/weird...like leanmaxing ( which Is useless of you're 5'8/9" manlet, It makes you appear like a kid ).
Or minox on face which give me good beard except for the fact I have nasolabial folds and wrinkles now.


Well, dont let your obsession about look control your Life or this would be your Life.
No amount of CBT, meditation, psichedelics or surgeries would give you the years you spent doing nothing and ruminating about your thoughts.

Life your Life even as an incel now, its Better to receive rejection than lay down and rot. Get some skills, earn some Money, get a Lefort3 if you Need It...and dont lose anymore time.

At 30 I'm living like a kid and going to clubs, trips exc...all things that makes me look like an old tryhard next to 20 years old Kids.

And no, you re not old as you look. You cant fucking trigger your brain believing your 20 while you re 30.

This doesn't apply for me, coz I don't age..my aging genetics are top tier

 

[humanoidsub7]

Cope get surgery then enjoy life once you're chad lmaooo o!nNmnn imagine...

I can't wait to be chad... I don't care if my bones break or if i die... I will die on the surgery table...

GO FROM TRUCEL TO CHAD NOW!

 

[letsdoit]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

Why is 10mm MSE bad?

I’m getting an MSE soon for my narrow IMW

 

[mvp2v1]

Why is 10mm MSE bad?

I’m getting an MSE soon for my narrow IMW

its debatable whether it will improve your looks or looksmin. after you do it share the experience with before and after pics.

 

[futureashtray]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

could u spoonfeed me the sauce? im tryna ascend

 

[Foreverbrad]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

Socialising before looksmaxing leads to a negative feedback spiral to hell, the complete loss of your mental health and confidence.

I am getting jaw surgery and implants 2 years - 2.5 years after finding out about black pill and that includes about a year wasted on hoping coping that softmaxxes would be enough. If I had been like 20 and not 28 at the start of this it probably could have turned out alright, but I don’t get the choice.

 

[Nation]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

True, what supplements are you talking about btw?

 

[Nation]

Yes you are. If you look ten years younger than you are, that's how you will be treated.
Who would refuse having the wisdom of a thirty year old, while having the social graces of a twenty year old?
Also I think your life was destined to be shit because you have a serious case of OCD.

I know Bro, why do you think ocd would make your Life so miserable?

 

[mvp2v1]

Socialising before looksmaxing leads to a negative feedback spiral to hell, the complete loss of your mental health and confidence.

Yes but unless your plan it to kys its better to have some experience then none so when you ascend you arent a total autist. When you go without for too long you become massive autist, I know because I became a recluse from the negative incel feedback I would get from life. It was a mistake. Now Im less of an incel, more normie, but I go out and the socialization has improved my mental health.

 

[bradpittshairline]

Socialising before looksmaxing leads to a negative feedback spiral to hell, the complete loss of your mental health and confidence.

I am getting jaw surgery and implants 2 years - 2.5 years after finding out about black pill and that includes about a year wasted on hoping coping that softmaxxes would be enough. If I had been like 20 and not 28 at the start of this it probably could have turned out alright, but I don’t get the choice.

So if I can get surgery by 23-24 am I good?

 

[Foreverbrad]

So if I can get surgery by 23-24 am I good?

Particularly if you can:
1. Hold off on uni until after surgery
2. Avoid Norwood reaper
3. Build a good physique while you accumulate money
4. SPF, good diet, minimal alcohol to maintain youthful collagen

I’m RIP on points 1 and 4, all the skincare in the world isn’t bringing my collagen back at 29.

 

[bradpittshairline]

Particularly if you can:
1. Hold off on uni until after surgery
2. Avoid Norwood reaper
3. Build a good physique while you accumulate money
4. SPF, good diet, minimal alcohol to maintain youthful collagen

I’m RIP on points 1 and 4, all the skincare in the world isn’t bringing my collagen back at 29.

Ive checked 2-3, working on 4 mainly acne has photoaged my skin badly at only 20 but looking at those in my family who went through the same, they look 15 years younger at even 45+ after their acne went away.

My main concern is finishing uni which I'm halfway through, my first job will allow me to afford any surgery I want since im good with finances. It does bring me a lot of anxiety though.

Have you tried laser treatments for your skin? I think reversing skin photoaging when there's no wrinkles is very possible, bryan johnson has great skin from all his treatments but looks like a dead lizard due to being pale + lack of contrast + some minor wringing adding tho this. But isolated his skin is very good for his age

 

[alpha_provider]

the first 6-12 months of posting on lookism are the best period of my life. psl forums are underrated, they are better than rl socializing for multiple reasons

 

[Stan1]

I'm just here to shitpost. I'm autistic and because of that I will never live a normal life, just something I need to accept.

the first 6-12 months of posting on lookism are the best period of my life. psl forums are underrated, they are better than rl socializing for multiple reasons

cope tbh, these forums are fun until you're like 20. After that you realize that most people here are retarded basement dwelling teenage Indians with severe mental illnesses and closeted homosexuality.
Still, I keep coming back here every now and then because life is shit.
But these forums are way past their prime tbh and if you're 25+ and still here hanging out with aspie children you clearly had stunted development.

 

[alpha_provider]

I'm just here to shitpost. I'm autistic and because of that I will never live a normal life, just something I need to accept.


cope tbh, these forums are fun until you're like 20. After that you realize that most people here are retarded basement dwelling teenage Indians with severe mental illnesses and closeted homosexuality.
Still, I keep coming back here every now and then because life is shit.
But these forums are way past their prime tbh and if you're 25+ and still here hanging out with aspie children you clearly had stunted development.

funny how 99% of the userbase here is completely incapable of providing any kind of input on anything without mentioning indians

agree with the age part, i feel like a complete retard and a failure whenever i realize i m arguing with a kid

 

[Stan1]

funny how 99% of the userbase here is completely incapable of providing any kind of input on anything without mentioning indians

It's how it is lol. Most blackpillers are autistic hindus. Normal people don't partake in that homo nonsense.

 

[capybar]

I have rumination ocd and I spent years asking the same questions over and over ( I already do that... spinning topics once in a while).
No skills earned, no surgeries done except lasik, I didnt do anything other that what I already did before. Just more mental masturbation, some things even made me look like a jester/weird...like leanmaxing ( which Is useless of you're 5'8/9" manlet, It makes you appear like a kid ).
Or minox on face which give me good beard except for the fact I have nasolabial folds and wrinkles now.


Well, dont let your obsession about look control your Life or this would be your Life.
No amount of CBT, meditation, psichedelics or surgeries would give you the years you spent doing nothing and ruminating about your thoughts.

Life your Life even as an incel now, its Better to receive rejection than lay down and rot. Get some skills, earn some Money, get a Lefort3 if you Need It...and dont lose anymore time.

At 30 I'm living like a kid and going to clubs, trips exc...all things that makes me look like an old tryhard next to 20 years old Kids.

And no, you re not old as you look. You cant fucking trigger your brain believing your 20 while you re 30.

This forum helped you because you didn’t commit suicide out of boredom.

 

[Mr.Proper]

Socialising before looksmaxing leads to a negative feedback spiral to hell, the complete loss of your mental health and confidence.

This.
You can, of course, try to lower your inhibition and/or take a dumpster dive, but at some point that will be tryhard.

 

[Deleted member 43403]

@NarrowBones Read This Thread

 

[Deleted member 23391]

I have the same exact issues. I am also a 2013 PUAhater and have rumination OCD, lol. Agree with what you said.

 

[incel194012940]

It's how it is lol. Most blackpillers are autistic hindus. Normal people don't partake in that homo nonsense.

most blackpillers are white ltns with 30th percentile social skills from anglo or nordic countries

 

[Deleted member 23391]

things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries).

yeah lol that would have ruined your face

 

[Sub0]

Two of the biggest forum Chads on this forum are literally 5'9", you're probably Sub5, leanmaxxing is never cope

 

[Stan1]

Two of the biggest forum Chads on this forum are literally 5'9", you're probably Sub5, leanmaxxing is never cope

who
Biggest mogger is Crisick and Salludon

 

[NarrowBones]

@NarrowBones Read This Thread

I’m getting lower eyelid retraction

 

[omarthegoat195]

2013 is wild jfl i was like 6

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Im actually doing my surgerys tho

 

[KING REIDYZ]

I have rumination ocd and I spent years asking the same questions over and over ( I already do that... spinning topics once in a while).
No skills earned, no surgeries done except lasik, I didnt do anything other that what I already did before. Just more mental masturbation, some things even made me look like a jester/weird...like leanmaxing ( which Is useless of you're 5'8/9" manlet, It makes you appear like a kid ).
Or minox on face which give me good beard except for the fact I have nasolabial folds and wrinkles now.


Well, dont let your obsession about look control your Life or this would be your Life.
No amount of CBT, meditation, psichedelics or surgeries would give you the years you spent doing nothing and ruminating about your thoughts.

Life your Life even as an incel now, its Better to receive rejection than lay down and rot. Get some skills, earn some Money, get a Lefort3 if you Need It...and dont lose anymore time.

At 30 I'm living like a kid and going to clubs, trips exc...all things that makes me look like an old tryhard next to 20 years old Kids.

And no, you re not old as you look. You cant fucking trigger your brain believing your 20 while you re 30.

30 is young bro

 

[Sub0]

who
Biggest mogger is Crisick and Salludon

Amnesia and Forever gym celling

 

[Kasanova]

Why is 10mm MSE bad?

I’m getting an MSE soon for my narrow IMW

1) It's an experimental surgety
2)
3) I haven't seen any big ascend from MSE (from MTH to HTN for example), only like LTN to MTN

 

[letsdoit]

1) It's an experimental surgety
2)
3) I haven't seen any big ascend from MSE (from MTH to HTN for example), only like LTN to MTN

It’s not a surgery.

I actually have a narrow palate and need it.


Any improvement is necessary whether functional or aesthetic or even both.

I wouldn’t just tell people not to get it..

 

[Kasanova]

It’s not a surgery.

I actually have a narrow palate and need it.


Any improvement is necessary whether functional or aesthetic or even both.

I wouldn’t just tell people not to get it..

IDK, tbh i don't really dive deep, because I don't need this, but that's what I read.

Any improvement is necessary whether functional or aesthetic or even both.

Yep, if you have a narrow palate - probably. But if you don't have I don't think it's a great idea to ger MSE

 

[Deleted member 43403]

I’m getting lower eyelid retraction

WHY? Nigga

 

[mvp2v1]

yeah lol that would have ruined your face

yes, there is something wrong with MSE style expansion. Its not the same as if your skull developed properly, not the same as if your expand via some other means like tongue work or removable expanders.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

yes, there is something wrong with MSE style expansion. Its not the same as if your skull developed properly

I made a thread about it

not the same as if your expand via some other means like tongue work or removable expanders.

lmfao, doesn't work

 

[NarrowBones]

WHY? Nigga

To get Hunter eyes I have dead eyes rn its 5k dollars

 

[Deleted member 43403]

To get Hunter eyes I have dead eyes rn its 5k dollars

 

[Deleted member 32410]

TLDR: Dont waste your time, and dont wait for things to be perfect before attempting, your looksmax, or your socialization, etc. Just do it.

Personally at first glance this seems like good advice, however if I had taken it to heart, 1.5 year ago when I first got into orthotropics, looksmaxing etc I would have done things like 10mm+ MSE which I would have regretted (there are other examples like taking certain suppliments, doing certain surgeries). The fact that I kept researching and investigating different topics allowed me to come to a much better understanding of the problem and the true solutions. The only thing I regret and continue to regret is how long it takes me to get started with certain things. This problem extends outside to all aspects of life. Being lazy, not having the discipline to do the difficult things I know I need to do. And being afraid to start something unless its "perfect".

I struggle with this too, and then I always just regret not starting earlier. Is this OCD or autism or ADHD ? I’ve never been screened for these

 

[mvp2v1]

lmfao, doesn't work

It does but whatever.

 

[mvp2v1]

I made a thread about it

Could you link that post. I scrolled through ur posts couldn’t find it. Interests in your idea. I think I may have read it before.

 

[Maalik]

Socialising before looksmaxing leads to a negative feedback spiral to hell, the complete loss of your mental health and confidence.

I am getting jaw surgery and implants 2 years - 2.5 years after finding out about black pill and that includes about a year wasted on hoping coping that softmaxxes would be enough. If I had been like 20 and not 28 at the start of this it probably could have turned out alright, but I don’t get the choice.

exactly

there is no socialising as subhuman. You just learn to suppress your self expression since everything you do is interpreted with cringe and disgust. Especially if you try to behave dominantly or make sexual moves, normies will pullout the popcorn like a funny circus has propped up jfl. This is what happened in my teenage years.

The social skills a person "learns" as a subhuman (involving being meek, outwardly grey, and probably timid) are extremely different to the social skills he would learn as a HTN+. (Speaking your mind, shit talking, doing whatever you feel like).

I am 21 btw and planning orthognathic surgery too. Which surgeon are you using. I am very much troubled with balancing cost and reliability. Western surgeons want your whole life savings jfl. Though I'd be willing to go that far if needed