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muh "everyone did it and thats why i can fuck kids too because my prophet did it
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He wasn't arguing that thoeveryone did it and thats why i can fuck kids too because my prophet did it
i said "its a pedo sect", he said "no its not, a few people dont represent a whole religion"He wasn't arguing that tho
I mean is that not true? An entire religion can't be held responsible for the misdeeds of a select few.i said "its a pedo sect", he said "no its not, a few people dont represent a whole religion"
nice baitI mean is that not true? An entire religion can't be held responsible for the misdeeds of a select few.
How is this bait? I'm asking you why you think what you think. You misinterpreted his point in this thread so I'm trying to understand your reasoning.nice bait
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muh "everyone did it and thats why i can fuck kids too because my prophet did it"
lets put a pause to this shit and go destroy the freemasons and jews. the enemies of humanityThis fucking nigger didn't even mention me in his thread I try my hardest go give great arguments , he goes ahead and makes a retarded thread without any counter arguments , just wrap it up
because in islam, muhammad is the prophet, he's meant to be the "perfect example" for muslimsI mean is that not true? An entire religion can't be held responsible for the misdeeds of a select few.
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muh "everyone did it and thats why i can fuck kids too because my prophet did it"
until hindu walks inmuslims gotta have the lowest iq out of all religions
Yeah but the only reason you view that as bad is because, presumably, you grew up in a western society where that was condemned and made illegal long ago. Suppose you grew up somewhere in which that was never looked down upon nor forbidden. It'd be of no significance to you. Morality is entirely subjective.because in islam, muhammad is the prophet, he's meant to be the "perfect example" for muslims
doesnt matter if it was the norm back then, bottom line is that he is a perfect example for all muslims meaning that they permit child marriage, evident by the fact they do it very frequently today
The Western origin of the belief is irrelevant, young girls bodies aren't physically developed for sex, for example girls under 15 develop obstetric fistula at higher ratesYeah but the only reason you view that as bad is because, presumably, you grew up in a western society where that was condemned and made illegal long ago. Suppose you grew up somewhere in which that was never looked down upon nor forbidden. It'd be of no significance to you. Morality is entirely subjective.
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muh "everyone did it and thats why i can fuck kids too because my prophet did it"
To my understanding sex is not an aspect of Islamic marriage when it relates to a male marrying a prepubescent female. They typically raise them and then procreate with them once they turn 15 or have noticeable development. I certainly condone colonialism considering without it we wouldn't be here discussing these matters, don't care about slavery because I'm not a slave nor was I alive during that time, and sure, anything else is up for grabs. Torturing infants to gratify sadistic desires is genuinely not at all related to what's being discussed though. That evokes a distinct biological aversion in 99% of humans due to the fact that we are social creatures.The Western origin of the belief is irrelevant, young girls bodies aren't physically developed for sex, for example girls under 15 develop obstetric fistula at higher rates
If morality is entirely subjective and shaped by upbringing, then you also have no grounds to condemn something like colonialism, slavery, or anything else. Those were cultural norms too and the people doing them weren't raised to see them as wrong either
For example if we take torturing infants for entertainment, if you believe that's wrong everywhere and always, congratulations you're not a moral relativist and instead a larp
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Your infant torture point is weak you said it's wrong because it triggers a biological aversion in most humans which is grounding morality in something consistent across cultures, you dropped your original positionTo my understanding sex is not an aspect of Islamic marriage when it relates to a male marrying a prepubescent female. They typically raise them and then procreate with them once they turn 15 or have noticeable development. I certainly condone colonialism considering without it we wouldn't be here discussing these matters, don't care about slavery because I'm not a slave nor was I alive during that time, and sure, anything else is up for grabs. Torturing infants to gratify sadistic desires is genuinely not at all related to what's being discussed though. That evokes a distinct biological aversion in 99% of humans due to the fact that we are social creatures.
Except I never said it was wrong. Reread what I said, and you'll realize I never condemned any points you made. Besides, even if I did believe it was wrong, that would be a subjective stance, as there are plenty of people out there who honestly do not see it as wrong. The argument started with Islamic marriages and what was stated in the Qur'an, you then began fixating on my point of moral subjectivity. You are actively splitting topics and telling me my positions are changing.Your infant torture point is weak you said it's wrong because it triggers a biological aversion in most humans which is grounding morality in something consistent across cultures, you dropped your original position
Protective instincts toward children from sexual access are also documented cross-culturally. If biological response is your standard then it goes both ways
The colonialism and slavery responses tell me that your belief is personal disengagement. "I don't care because it didn't affect me" isn't claim about the nature of morality. You started with "morality is entirely subjective" and ended with two different positions
Icl the thought of raising someone with love then ‘breeding’ them is insanely disgustingTo my understanding sex is not an aspect of Islamic marriage when it relates to a male marrying a prepubescent female. They typically raise them and then procreate with them once they turn 15 or have noticeable development. I certainly condone colonialism considering without it we wouldn't be here discussing these matters, don't care about slavery because I'm not a slave nor was I alive during that time, and sure, anything else is up for grabs. Torturing infants to gratify sadistic desires is genuinely not at all related to what's being discussed though. That evokes a distinct biological aversion in 99% of humans due to the fact that we are social creatures.
I guess. I don't think of it that way though.Icl the thought of raising someone with love then ‘breeding’ them is insanely disgusting
Whats ur opinion on itI guess. I don't think of it that way though.
If it's not consanguineous there'd be no room for birth defects or genetic diseases, so I don't see an issue. If you dislike the age gap, I understand that, but I don't relate. It's difficult to put into words why that is.Whats ur opinion on it
Unfortunately, prophet muhammad tapped 9 year old aisha (water as we know) is an issue as she was pre-pubescent, which we can deduce as immoral due to biological factors.Yeah but the only reason you view that as bad is because, presumably, you grew up in a western society where that was condemned and made illegal long ago. Suppose you grew up somewhere in which that was never looked down upon nor forbidden. It'd be of no significance to you. Morality is entirely subjective.