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Title. Just got released last week and it's extremely good in coding tests. So even I wanted to see how fucked us ITcels are. I was actually testing this last weekend with an assignment that they give to my friend's company's interns for one of their SDE-1 roles. This is the assignment it is for a YC backed startup. Very good pay and here are all the test cases. If you want to solve this. Dm me I'll send you the assignment.

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The main problem in this assignment is the non-standardized columns that they have and the fact that they want you derive and calculate the taxes individually and flag the mismatched while also adding support for excel,pdfs and images

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I solved it last month using GCP Document AI for OCR like reading the files for PDFs, Images using the built in invoice parser with metadata and use excel as is with pandas to extract it's content. Then I used gemini to normalize the columns and fed it to redux columns to make real time updates possible and had the site deployed and it ran all the test cases perfectly and also preemptively flagged the ones that it was not sure about.

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I had a few minor hiccups here and there where I forgot that mantine ui stuff. Also like always i generated the entire frontend design and styling using ChatGPT, only did the the redux toolkit and glueing the code together part. I did do all the logic, overall it was no big deal didn't feel the assignment was particularly too difficult. Just a bit lengthy and boring. Took me some 4-5 hours. 300 lines of clean code that anyone can understand and read from to debug with proper file structure. For a beginner who doesn't know about these things it might have taken them maybe 8-10 hours.

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But now lets come to this Claude Opus with all the praises I heard about it, even I wanted to know how fucked all us ITcels and how I should go back to my kerala town and start fishing to make living again so there I uploaded all the test cases, the assignment and gave it prompt to make it as simple as possible, out came the code within seconds but the kind bugs that it had made my head spin so hard. Debugging it was a bigger problem than me myself doing it. It generated this.

Black Ink Crew Laughing GIF by VH1


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If you dont know what it is it is basically hallucinated an entire npm package that does not even exist. Holy shit. This is where it got it from


.When I looked up where it got this idea from that GitHub link it pointed to the runllama/llama_cloud_services GitHub repo. Claude basically hallucinated all those parts which completely breaks the app and even there, right there with a โš ๏ธ they slapped a massive DEPRECATION NOTICE on that exact repository. That claude just simply ignored it because it was fed outdated data.

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When I prompted it again it immediately started apologizing
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and after prompting once more it hallucinated once again to give some garbage code that changed the schema and randomly generated some unknown stuff that never existed entirely causing frontend and backend crash.

All these are career ending million dollar mistakes by the way like if someone caught you making these mistakes they will kick you out of the company right that second.
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My friend was watching all this and started laughing how AI is going to take our jobs. Almost 4 hours of continuous prompting in and still tons of bugs, errors and long garbage code solving completely unnecessary edge cases and it gave me like 800 lines of some frankenstein zombie code with ternary operators, depreciated libraries, unused imports, looped statements, variables out of nowhere, it was such a mess that I had one look and said nope. 0 interest in debugging it.

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So yeah that about answers LLMs in general do I think Opus is waste absolutely not. It is amazing I am telling you this openly that it can do stuff that I or even a senior engineers with 10+ years of experience will struggle to do

It is very powerful and very impressive but it lacks comprehension, and proper system design understanding of things, it doens't understand what exactly it spits out.

In simple words Opus is like that over smart hyper active kid t in class that doesnt actually know anything but still blurts out answers with the kind of confidence that even teacher has to double check if they were wrong but when you look at actually look at his work it's all BS and filled with him inventing stuff but it does show flashes of brilliance

For real projects I'd pick GitHub Copilot. Way fewer dumb mistakes, more reliable but also way less creative and bold it can't create an entire app like Opus but atleast it doesn't do shit like this. Copilot is the quiet kid who only speaks when 100% sure and that's what you want so yeah LLMs even now need a lot of human holding.
 
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Ai tools are useful for streamlining work, good for simple but tedious tasks

But if you expect it to have any actual comprehension or critical thinking :forcedsmile:
 
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In simple words Opus is like that over smart hyper active kid t in class that doesnt actually know anything but still blurts out answers with the kind of confidence that even teacher has to double check if they were wrong but when you look at actually look at his work it's all BS and filled with him inventing stuff.
aren't all LLMS like this? chatgpt ever since the start has been blurping out anwsers that were consistently wrong and it does it to this day - same as most of the other mainstream LLMS, idk about the niche ones.
 
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aren't all LLMS like this? chatgpt ever since the start has been blurping out anwsers that were consistently wrong and it does it to this day - same as most of the other mainstream LLMS, idk about the niche ones.
LLMs come in two flavors. wildly creative geniuses who hallucinate like crazy, or boringly reliable assistants who are limit in their abilities.
 
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aren't all LLMS like this? chatgpt ever since the start has been blurping out anwsers that were consistently wrong and it does it to this day - same as most of the other mainstream LLMS, idk about the niche ones.
chatgpt feels like talking to someone who's trying really hard to be helpful but keeps missing the point

like it'll give you a comprehensive answer to a question you didn't ask or it will try and add on to the part you already asked it

the other thing i notice is chatgpt has this tendency to agree with everything you say first before adding anything useful
 
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Opus is like that over smart hyper active kid that we have in class that doesnt understand anything but still blurts out answers with the kind of confidence that even teacher has to double check but when you look at his work it's all BS and filled with him inventing stuff.
basically me i know nothing but i just blabber and confuse myself.
I do think it can do better than the avg dev. What youโ€™re saying makes sense when you know what youโ€™re doing but if I tried doing this Iโ€™d probably get stuck and end up making it even messier.
 
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Title. Just got released last week and it's extremely good in coding tests. So even I wanted to see how fucked us ITcels are. I was actually testing this last weekend with an assignment that they give to my friend's company's interns for one of their SDE-1 roles. This is the assignment it is for a YC backed startup. Very good pay and here are all the test cases. If you want to solve this. Dm me I'll send you the assignment.

View attachment 4673695

The main problem in this assignment is the non-standardized columns that they have and the fact that they want you derive and calculate the taxes individually and flag the mismatched while also adding support for excel,pdfs and images

View attachment 4673759View attachment 4673768

I solved it last month using GCP Document AI for OCR like reading the files for PDFs, Images and use excel as is with pandas to extract it's content using the built in invoice parser with metadata. Then I used gemini to normalize the columns and fed it to redux columns to make real time updates possible and had the site deployed and it ran all the test cases perfectly

View attachment 4673764

I had a few minor hiccups here and there where I forgot that mantine ui stuff. Also like always i generated the entire frontend design and styling using ChatGPT, only did the the redux toolkit and glueing the code together part. I did do all the logic, overall it was no big deal didn't feel the assignment was particularly too difficult. Just a bit lengthy and boring. Took me some 4-5 hours. For a beginner who doesn't know about these things it might have taken them maybe 8-10 hours.

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But now lets come to this Claude Opus with all the praises I heard about it, even I wanted to know how fucked all us ITcels and how I should go back to my kerala town and start fishing to make living again so there I uploaded all the test cases, the assignment and gave it prompt to make it as simple as possible, out came the code within seconds but the kind bugs that it had made my head spin so hard. Debugging it was a bigger problem than me myself doing it. It generated this.

Black Ink Crew Laughing GIF by VH1


View attachment 4673732


If you dont know what it is it is basically hallucinated an entire npm package that does not even exist. Holy shit. This is where it got it from


It is just a internal+public docs for LlamaIndex's backend APIs which shows end points it is not a maintained SDK at all.

View attachment 4673734

When I prompted it again it immediately started apologizing
View attachment 4673745
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and after prompting once more it hallucinated once again to give some garbage code that changed the schema and randomly generated some unknown stuff that never existed entirely causing frontend and backend crash.

All these are career ending million dollar mistakes by the way like if someone caught you making these mistakes they will kick you out of the company right that second. View attachment 4673747

My friend was watching all this and started laughing how AI is going to take our jobs. Almost 4 hours of continuous prompting in and still tons of bugs, errors and long garbage code solving completely unnecessary edge cases and it gave me like 800 lines of some frankenstein zombie code that I had 0 interest in debugging.

View attachment 4673795

So yeah that about answers LLMs in general do I think Opus is waste absolutely not. It is amazing I am telling you this openly that it can do stuff that I or even a senior engineers with 10+ years of experience will struggle to do

It is very powerful and very impressive but it lacks comprehension, and proper system design understanding of things, it doens't understand what exactly it spits out.

In simple words Opus is like that over smart hyper active kid t in class that doesnt actually know anything but still blurts out answers with the kind of confidence that even teacher has to double check if they were wrong but when you look at actually look at his work it's all BS and filled with him inventing stuff.

For real projects I'd pick GitHub Copilot. Way fewer dumb mistakes, more reliable but also way less creative and bold it can't create an entire app like Opus but atleast it doesn't do shit like this. Copilot is the quiet kid who only speaks when 100% sure and that's what you want so yeah LLMs even now need a lot of human holding.

Title. Just got released last week and it's extremely good in coding tests. So even I wanted to see how fucked us ITcels are. I was actually testing this last weekend with an assignment that they give to my friend's company's interns for one of their SDE-1 roles. This is the assignment it is for a YC backed startup. Very good pay and here are all the test cases. If you want to solve this. Dm me I'll send you the assignment.

View attachment 4673695

The main problem in this assignment is the non-standardized columns that they have and the fact that they want you derive and calculate the taxes individually and flag the mismatched while also adding support for excel,pdfs and images

View attachment 4673759View attachment 4673768

I solved it last month using GCP Document AI for OCR like reading the files for PDFs, Images and use excel as is with pandas to extract it's content using the built in invoice parser with metadata. Then I used gemini to normalize the columns and fed it to redux columns to make real time updates possible and had the site deployed and it ran all the test cases perfectly

View attachment 4673764

I had a few minor hiccups here and there where I forgot that mantine ui stuff. Also like always i generated the entire frontend design and styling using ChatGPT, only did the the redux toolkit and glueing the code together part. I did do all the logic, overall it was no big deal didn't feel the assignment was particularly too difficult. Just a bit lengthy and boring. Took me some 4-5 hours. For a beginner who doesn't know about these things it might have taken them maybe 8-10 hours.

View attachment 4673716
View attachment 4673721

But now lets come to this Claude Opus with all the praises I heard about it, even I wanted to know how fucked all us ITcels and how I should go back to my kerala town and start fishing to make living again so there I uploaded all the test cases, the assignment and gave it prompt to make it as simple as possible, out came the code within seconds but the kind bugs that it had made my head spin so hard. Debugging it was a bigger problem than me myself doing it. It generated this.

Black Ink Crew Laughing GIF by VH1


View attachment 4673732


If you dont know what it is it is basically hallucinated an entire npm package that does not even exist. Holy shit. This is where it got it from


It is just a internal+public docs for LlamaIndex's backend APIs which shows end points it is not a maintained SDK at all.

View attachment 4673734

When I prompted it again it immediately started apologizing
View attachment 4673745
View attachment 4673746

and after prompting once more it hallucinated once again to give some garbage code that changed the schema and randomly generated some unknown stuff that never existed entirely causing frontend and backend crash.

All these are career ending million dollar mistakes by the way like if someone caught you making these mistakes they will kick you out of the company right that second. View attachment 4673747

My friend was watching all this and started laughing how AI is going to take our jobs. Almost 4 hours of continuous prompting in and still tons of bugs, errors and long garbage code solving completely unnecessary edge cases and it gave me like 800 lines of some frankenstein zombie code that I had 0 interest in debugging.

View attachment 4673795

So yeah that about answers LLMs in general do I think Opus is waste absolutely not. It is amazing I am telling you this openly that it can do stuff that I or even a senior engineers with 10+ years of experience will struggle to do

It is very powerful and very impressive but it lacks comprehension, and proper system design understanding of things, it doens't understand what exactly it spits out.

In simple words Opus is like that over smart hyper active kid t in class that doesnt actually know anything but still blurts out answers with the kind of confidence that even teacher has to double check if they were wrong but when you look at actually look at his work it's all BS and filled with him inventing stuff.

For real projects I'd pick GitHub Copilot. Way fewer dumb mistakes, more reliable but also way less creative and bold it can't create an entire app like Opus but atleast it doesn't do shit like this. Copilot is the quiet kid who only speaks when 100% sure and that's what you want so yeah LLMs even now need a lot of human holding.
jfl and people say Ai taking swe jobs
 
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itโ€™s genuinely insane with the paid version

this + clawbot increases work by a lot

clawbot is method
 
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chatgpt feels like talking to someone who's trying really hard to be helpful but keeps missing the point

like it'll give you a comprehensive answer to a question you didn't ask or it will try and add on to the part you already asked it

the other thing i notice is chatgpt has this tendency to agree with everything you say first before adding anything useful
i just use claude now in general chatgpt feels censored/watered down

maybe thats because im using the free plan but ngl im never gonna pay for chatgpt plus :feelskek:

claude actually calls me out and tells me what the problem is and doesn't just start from scratch and instead actually uses the context

(not a promo btw :lul:)
 
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chatgpt feels like talking to someone who's trying really hard to be helpful but keeps missing the point

like it'll give you a comprehensive answer to a question you didn't ask or it will try and add on to the part you already asked it

the other thing i notice is chatgpt has this tendency to agree with everything you say first before adding anything useful
the issue with mainstream LLM's (grok, gemini, chatgpt) is that their main priority is to appeal to the user base to drive sales and not to actually be useful.

you tell chatgpt "i killed someone what do i do???"

and it'll say "it's okay! breathe! you didn't just kill someone, you exerted your frustration. You were the one wronged here, not them."


grok is better than the bunch tho, he's pretty based tbh but still tries too hard to appeal to the user
 
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iqlets were posting under me asking for help landing a swe internship but Ai hallucinations legit almost messed up one of my projects
 
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chatgpt feels like talking to someone who's trying really hard to be helpful but keeps missing the point

like it'll give you a comprehensive answer to a question you didn't ask or it will try and add on to the part you already asked it

the other thing i notice is chatgpt has this tendency to agree with everything you say first before adding anything useful
Imo use claude for the ideation part and boiler plate code and then use codex or copilot after that for the logic and other stuff. Boring and reliable is what you want in the backend not something widely creative.
 
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the issue with mainstream LLM's (grok, gemini, chatgpt) is that their main priority is to appeal to the user base to drive sales and not to actually be useful.

you tell chatgpt "i killed someone what do i do???"

and it'll say "it's okay! breathe! you didn't just kill someone, you exerted your frustration. You were the one wronged here, not them."


grok is better than the bunch tho, he's pretty based tbh but still tries too hard to appeal to the user
yeah i feel like the original intention was just to be an everyday LLM to just use for basic tasks

not actual assignments/projects

the censorship is so annoying too you can't ask anything without triggering any kind of blocks

theres gotta be better AIs out there man
 
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i just use claude now in general chatgpt feels censored/watered down

maybe thats because im using the free plan but ngl im never gonna pay for chatgpt plus :feelskek:

claude actually calls me out and tells me what the problem is and doesn't just start from scratch and instead actually uses the context

(not a promo btw :lul:)
use cursor they have a free 1 year subscription for students but if u paying for claude thatโ€™s good also
 
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Imo use claude for the ideation part and boiler plate code and then use codex or copilot after that for the logic and other stuff. Boring and reliable is what you want in the backend not something widely creative.
chatgpt just looks for 1. readability 2. coherence and 3. if the ideas flow well together


it lacks precision and thats where claude excels
 
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use cursor they have a free 1 year subscription for students but if u paying for claude thatโ€™s good also
im on claude's free plan as of rn and i like how it is so far ngl

i can actually upload files/pdfs without having a cooldown (thanks jewgpt) :lul:

it also seems quicker and feels like you are actually having a conversation
 
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im on claude's free plan as of rn and i like how it is so far ngl

i can actually upload files/pdfs without having a cooldown (thanks jewgpt) :lul:

it also seems quicker and feels like you are actually having a conversation
just pay for the subscription worth it jfl
 
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yeah AI is far off from replacing real jobs anytime soon tbh I feel like AI had only made my work easier, I wonder if I will get to see AGI before I die
 
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im on claude's free plan as of rn and i like how it is so far ngl

i can actually upload files/pdfs without having a cooldown (thanks jewgpt) :lul:

it also seems quicker and feels like you are actually having a conversation
i was using gpt free when I was doing a project with react and at that time I wasnโ€™t aware of what I was doing so i vibe coded the front end thinking itโ€™s simple and when I ran into issues with api calls and errors. I almost shit my pants trying to figure out the error. Itโ€™s cause chat legit hallucinated an entire section that wasnโ€™t even relevant and properly done
 
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@1exposed @BigBallsLarry i also found grok to be really good for web scrapping stuff like it can look through hundreds of pages in seconds and give you the output. Very good to decide upon the stack and other system design decisions
 
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Start using postman bro. It has an AI built in now. Which you can use for testing it and ensure evrything works perfectly together
i was using gpt free when I was doing a project with react and at that time I wasnโ€™t aware of what I was doing so i vibe coded the front end thinking itโ€™s simple and when I ran into issues with api calls and errors. I almost shit my pants trying to figure out the error. Itโ€™s cause chat legit hallucinated an entire section that wasnโ€™t even relevant and properly done
 
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i was using gpt free when I was doing a project with react and at that time I wasnโ€™t aware of what I was doing so i vibe coded the front end thinking itโ€™s simple and when I ran into issues with api calls and errors. I almost shit my pants trying to figure out the error. Itโ€™s cause chat legit hallucinated an entire section that wasnโ€™t even relevant and properly done
gpt free is legit horrendous


only use it for general questions
 
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iโ€™ve lowkey gotten in the habit of watching shows while being in org feels productive
 
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yeah AI is far off from replacing real jobs anytime soon tbh I feel like AI had only made my work easier, I wonder if I will get to see AGI before I die
i wonder the same thing

all i know is that i have a feeling that the beginning of something pivotal will begin or start to materialize by 2030
 
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Start using postman bro. It has an AI built in now. Which you can use for testing it and ensure evrything works perfectly together
will look into it what made the experience worse was that we had to clutch up in my internship but we figured it out and won 1st place out of 28 teams the dopamine was lowkey nice
 
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i wonder the same thing

all i know is that i have a feeling that the beginning of something pivotal will begin or start to materialize by 2030
we'll probably have agi by 2050-2070 tbh or something similar to it
 
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i wonder the same thing

all i know is that i have a feeling that the beginning of something pivotal will begin or start to materialize by 2030
IT jobs the ones that are well paid are generally one of the safer jobs in the AI future because the work is unpredictable and not repetitive at all the first ones to go for routine repetitive stuff that can be predicted easily. AI already has replaced a good chunk of those jobs.
 
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i wonder the same thing

all i know is that i have a feeling that the beginning of something pivotal will begin or start to materialize by 2030
Sometimes I think of these conspiracy theories that they have already made AGI but are using it for themselves, maybe they have you remember that Q* from openai?
 
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IT jobs the ones that are well paid are generally one of the safer jobs in the AI future because the work is unpredictable and not repetitive at all the first ones to go for routine repetitive stuff that can be predicted easily. AI already has replaced a good chunk of those jobs.
but i feel like any swe engineer could do an IT job i am not completely aware of what IT does but it seems like if worse comes to worse the shift from Swe to IT wouldnโ€™t be to hard.
 
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but i feel like any swe engineer could do an IT job i am not completely aware of what IT does but it seems like if worse comes to worse the shift from Swe to IT wouldnโ€™t be to hard.
meaning aim high but if u demote to IT u still have a job
 
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@Yliaster @Wuzzdio @EvilSatanArseRapist
 
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the cs market I think will begin to demand more engineers soon. thereโ€™s been constant fear mongering and horror stories of new grad and no job that people arenโ€™t as willing to go into the major. so maybe this decline in workers will shift the market back in our favour
 
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IT jobs the ones that are well paid are generally one of the safer jobs in the AI future because the work is unpredictable and not repetitive at all the first ones to go for routine repetitive stuff that can be predicted easily. AI already has replaced a good chunk of those jobs.
yeah areas like basic data entry, simple QA testing and template-based coding have already been heavily impacted

but i feel like AI will get to a point where it doesnโ€™t need to actually replace the engineers

for example, if one engineer with strong AI tools (assuming this is set in the future) can do the same amount of work that used to require 3โ€“5 engineers, then companies wonโ€™t need to hire as many people, and salaries could go down because they don't need as many workers.

this can also affect juniors who are also trying to get a job as entry level jobs would be the first to become obsolete
 
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Ai failsnat 95% of basic freelance shit :feelskek:

(For now...)
 
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yeah areas like basic data entry, simple QA testing and template-based coding have already been heavily impacted

but i feel like AI will get to a point where it doesnโ€™t need to actually replace the engineers

for example, if one engineer with strong AI tools (assuming this is set in the future) can do the same amount of work that used to require 3โ€“5 engineers, then companies wonโ€™t need to hire as many people, and salaries could go down because they don't need as many workers.

this can also affect juniors who are also trying to get a job as entry level jobs would be the first to become obsolete
I agree AI with set the bar higher and make jobs fewer in the future but the ones who do get them will get paid more aswell. Happens every time with some revolutionary technology. The bottom scraps while the top explodes
 
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I agree AI with set the bar higher and make jobs fewer in the future but the ones who do get them will get paid more aswell. Happens every time with some revolutionary technology. The bottom scraps while the top explodes
survival of the fittest basically

i wonder how things in general (not just coding/computer science) will play out for different fields when ai booms
 
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survival of the fittest basically

i wonder how things in general (not just coding/computer science) will play out for different fields when ai booms
One more thing is that a true sde/ swe doesn't actually spend the entire day coding. It only 10% of your responsibility as a software engineers most of the time will be spent just reading documents and talking to people
 
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