I think dutasteride has given me erectile dysfunction tbh

[optimisticzoomer]

I'm not one to talk about muh sides, but since starting dut it seems I'm getting almost no erections, and if I get one it's never fully hard and quickly goes down

Could just be that I'm not whacking off, but I wasn't before dut either, and I would still sometimes get boners at night. I've had less since starting SR, but even less since dut

Ideal.

Inb4 penile atrophy
@Bitchwhipper2 @piec

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Shaolin monks used it for thousands of years

 

[atturki67]

Saw some users having the same problem so I think it’s quite common.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Shaolin monks used it for thousands of years

It's based af tbh

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Its honestly the best "side effect"

Back before i was even concerned about hairloss I was considering it to treat erectile overfunction

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Its honestly the best "side effect"

Back before i was even concerned about hairloss I was considering it to treat erectile overfunction

Have you had similar success?

 

[StuntmanMike]

Used fin for straight 4 years
Had no side effects
Jumped on dut
3 months later hair was thicker but side effects were real af
dut is way stronger than fin if you have side effects then quit it

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Have you had similar success?

Im not on dut.

On deca, the monk steroid rn

 

[asdvek]

Jerking off 7x a day is ideal.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Im not on dut.

On deca, the monk steroid rn

And you called me neurotic
Why do u keep changing it?

What are u on for hair loss?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

And you called me neurotic
Why do u keep changing it?

What are u on for hair loss?

Deca + RU only

Dut would make me lose hair on deca

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Used fin for straight 4 years
Had no side effects
Jumped on dut
3 months later hair was thicker but side effects were real af
dut is way stronger than fin if you have side effects then quit it

Started dut hoping for temple regrowth
Realised that's a meme
But will stay on dut to better prevent loss
Take both fin and dut everyday tbh

Less erections is a positive

 

[zslqam]

I'm not one to talk about muh sides, but since starting dut it seems I'm getting almost no erections, and if I get one it's never fully hard and quickly goes down

Could just be that I'm not whacking off, but I wasn't before dut either, and I would still sometimes get boners at night. I've had less since starting SR, but even less since dut

Ideal.

Inb4 penile atrophy
@Bitchwhipper2 @piec

ill help you get it up

 

[piec]

Dut would make me lose hair on deca

how would that even be possible

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Deca + RU only

Dut would make me lose hair on deca

Why are u taking that?
And how would dut cause u to lose hair? Lol

 

[imontheloose]

Ideal.

 

[Yeagerist]

Cant relate have morning wood after popping fin and dut

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Cant relate have morning wood after popping fin and dut

Don't remember having morning wood in weeks

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

how would that even be possible

Why are u taking that?
And how would dut cause u to lose hair? Lol

Instead of converting to dht, Nandrolone turns in to DHN which is the incel version of DHT and just clogs up the receptors and NEETs, almost like RU

If you take away 5ar like with dut you got all the nandrolone binding with its androgenicity causing hairloss

 

[Yeagerist]

Don't remember having morning wood in weeks

Wow, low T, check test levels pin test

 

[nuisance]

I don't care about women or sex on finasteride boners are mid have to work to get one going.

 

[nuisance]

Wow, low T, check test levels pin test

its the 5ar inhibition

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Instead of converting to dht, Nandrolone turns in to DHN which is the incel version of DHT and just clogs up the receptors and NEETs, almost like RU

If you take away 5ar like with dut you got all the nandrolone binding with its androgenicity causing hairloss

I'm confused as to how dut would cause loss
Maybe wouldn't stop all loss due to roiding, but wouldn't increase it. But also, RU for roiding seems like broscience tbh. Dut should work

 

[Thief]

Wow, low T, check test levels pin test

Castration is optimal for mental clarity.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Wow, low T, check test levels pin test

Only since starting dut
Didnt happen with fin

As I said, I've had less since I started semen retention almost 10 months ago, but they've decreased even more since dut

 

[nuisance]

Castration is optimal for mental clarity.

high E is the most bullshit state ive ever been in

 

[SoundnVision]

You need Cialis 5mg daily because finasteride and dutasteride inhibit nitric oxide which is why you get poor erections.
Also boron 10mg daily to make sure shbg is kept low.

 

[nuisance]

Only since starting dut
Didnt happen with fin

As I said, I've had less since I started semen retention almost 10 months ago, but they've decreased even more since dut

semen retention is a meme, kills libido jerk off once a week

 

[nuisance]

You need Cialis 5mg daily because finasteride and dutasteride inhibit nitric oxide which is why you get poor erections.
Also boron 10mg daily to make sure shbg is kept low.

its not about nitric oxide its about the desire for sex, that goes away

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I'm confused as to how dut would cause loss
Maybe wouldn't stop all loss due to roiding, but wouldn't increase it. But also, RU for roiding seems like broscience tbh. Dut should work

Dut inhibits the 5ar enzyme which converts Testosterone to DHT. Ru works by blocking the receptor itself.

Many steroids dont even have this conversion, and other like Nandrolone have a 5ar conversion leading to an androgen much weaker than its parent compound, which then basicly binds to the receptor doing almost nothing effectively blocking it off

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

kills libido

Thats the goal lil bro

 

[Everythingislaw]

I'm not one to talk about muh sides, but since starting dut it seems I'm getting almost no erections, and if I get one it's never fully hard and quickly goes down

Could just be that I'm not whacking off, but I wasn't before dut either, and I would still sometimes get boners at night. I've had less since starting SR, but even less since dut

Ideal.

Inb4 penile atrophy
@Bitchwhipper2 @piec

Did it lower your libido?

 

[nuisance]

Thats the goal lil bro

i dont like it it makes me feel emasculated

 

[SoundnVision]

its not about nitric oxide its about the desire for sex, that goes away

Desire comes from test.
DHT increases sensitivity and makes it feel better in the moment if that makes sense. But desire and drive is mainly test.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

kills libido

That's the whole point

 

[optimisticzoomer]

i dont like it it makes me feel emasculated

Nothing more masculine than being free of desire
@Bitchwhipper2

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Dut inhibits the 5ar enzyme which converts Testosterone to DHT

Many steroids dont even have this conversion, and other like Nandrolone have a 5ar conversion leading to an androgen much weaker than its parent compound, which then basicly binds to the receptor doing almost nothing effectively blocking it off

@optimisticzoomer rep my high effort reply nigga

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Did it lower your libido?

My libido has been lower since I stopped whacking off
Probably the same

 

[nuisance]

Desire comes from test.
DHT increases sensitivity and makes it feel better in the moment if that makes sense. But desire and drive is mainly test.

There are multiple factors that can cause problems, mine is estrodial. Fin ups my estradiol ALOT. Also alopreglanalone decreases.

My test is 760 the last I checked.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

@optimisticzoomer rep my high effort reply nigga

Didn't see it, and don't really understand tbh
What exactly causes the hair loss if on dut and your steroid?

 

[SoundnVision]

Take proviron 12.5mg a day.
Will make you horny and shouldn't cause hair loss at low dose

 

[nuisance]

Nothing more masculine than being free of desire
@Bitchwhipper2

There is a difference between controlling your desire, and not having it at all

 

[SoundnVision]

There are multiple factors that can cause problems, mine is estrodial. Fin ups my estradiol ALOT. Also alopreglanalone decreases.

My test is 760 the last I checked.

Try proviron 12.5 mg

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Take proviron 12.5mg a day.
Will make you horny and shouldn't cause hair loss at low dose

I don't wanna be horny

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Didn't see it, and don't really understand tbh
What exactly causes the hair loss if on dut and your steroid?

Dut makes the steroid to stay as its potent from rather allowing the steroid to convert to the anti androgen

Which is the same process as test to dht, but basicly the opposite ineffect

 

[SoundnVision]

I don't wanna be horny

Whats your issue then

 

[optimisticzoomer]

There is a difference between controlling your desire, and not having it at all

You control your desire by semen retention
It's not like you're using substances

 

[sub5outsider]

oral min made me feel dead below the belt not like im using my dick but thats the scariest shit ever

 

[User28823]

muhhh

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Dut makes the steroid to stay as its potent from rather allowing the steroid to convert to the anti androgen

Which is the same process as test to dht, but basicly the opposite ineffect

But test causing hair loss is a meme