I think I will give up looksmax, I have no hope left

[CursedOne]

I dont know how to put it in words,

I've wanted to write this for a long time but I always gave myself another chance, this is why I didint make this topic until now. I think all the "looksmax" illusions are going to come to an end.

First mandatory song:

As anyone can see Im one of the "older members." I joined this forum on Feb 27, 2020. Its more than 2 years, almost 3 years in some months. How time flies. Most people do may know that Im already 27 years and Ive never dated or kissed or slept with a girl. You can call me a Khhv. Yes I admit it. I am a Kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin. To be fair Ive had girls crushing on me when I was young and last year ago (but only when I had my mask on)

I have one of the most tragic backgrounds in this forum yet everyone tries to convince that other people have it worse than me. I am saying this not because I want anybodys pity but I want other people finally to notice my plight.
Here is my very tragic story, a story full of pain and misery:
Despite being born into parents with a extremely beautiful mother (literally stacy and ramireztier bone structure) I wasnt born good looking but ugly. Early I noticed that it was my dad who is the "culprit". He has above average facial bones but very ugly soft feautures (nose, thicker skin etc.) and he is very short (167cm).
Now to me: Altough I have chad facial bonestructure (literally ssj3 tier browridge, gigachad zygos, strong jawline and chin) I am yet ugly. You are going to ask yourself how is this possible. Its simple: I am the guy with the worst soft feauture on this fucking planet. Unfortunately I was born with the WORST nosetip you could imagine. It was literally deformedtier big. Also thanks to my stupdid parents not caring about me, when I was a little boy (around 3 years old maybe, dont remember) I actually hit something with my left eyebrow giving me a permanent scar. Since I received this scar at a young age, one part of the left eyebrow developed a bit differently making the scar easy to spot. I could count 1000 other things. For example that I am or was severly hairy to the point where it bothered me that much I never went out with a tshirt or short pants. I also tend to develop pimples on the body, especially when I jerk off to porn. Iam also quite short for a guy in germany (only 177cm). even with decent lifts (7-8cm) I am atmost average height but most of the times still shorter than most young german dudes.

When I look at my childhood I understand things better now. I understand the many awkward I got myself into. How badly I was treated by classmates, by teachers etc. I can remember a situation (I think i was like 14-16) where I commented that I look shit without a beard and a very short girl (short 1,50cm bittch) replied that I look shit anyway. Even some small children called me "ugly". that Hurt me the most to this day. In school Ive noticed that a group of boys like myself and some other ugliy guys were never actually adressed by girls, We simply didint even exist in their mind. But there were like 3-4 popular boys who always got the attention of girls. I had a friend of mine (he was short but had modeltier hair and knew how to talk to girls) who had like a girlfriend every next month. I cant even remember all those girls he fucked. I never had any of those romantic moments.

All of this didint change. I actually did try to "looksmax" back then when looksmax didint even exist in the first place. I remember how I actually transformed from fat to skinny in just one Summer vacation back when I was still at school (maybe class 6 or 7, cant remember) and everybody was "Wow, how fast did you lose weight in just 1-2 months". But as you guys can imagine, it still didint work out for me. I also admit that I was fat for the most part of my life but that is NOT the source of my inceldom.
After that I actually didint struggle to somehow try again to "looksmax" for a long time. At age 24 while I was doing my apprenticeship, I saw so many beautiful ladies again and my interested in girls grew again. I actually fall in love with a very cute short blonde girl. For the first time in life Ive tried it on a girl and got rejected. I was beaten down again by life. Since that day my interested in looksmax grew and grew. I actually considered doing surgeries. Since I worked two jobs for a longer period of time I had some money to spare. Some months after that event I looked up about looks, tried chewing for a long time (a huge mistake, I would find out later), I did several bodyhair laser sessions And then some months after that I consulted a good nose surgeon and underwent my first plastic surgery in june 2020. It was rhinoplasty + septumplasty. I was very hyped after the surgery once I saw for the first time how I looked after my rhino. Thanks to that dr. I actually got a mogger resullt. It was a very natural result which I am happy with. But despite getting a mogger result ive also noticed that my nosetip is still subhuman and it will literally take years for my nosetip to finally look normal. I was devasted. As I mentioned my nosetip was deformed from the beginning. the noseshape looks fantastic but the nosetip is still subhuman.
Despite having my nose fixed, my nose is still subhuman and will continue to do so for the next few years. I was again devasted. Then I did eyebrow transplant, as I mentioned my left eyebrow is assysmtrical due to a scar. This surgery failed actually since the surgeon had literally zero skills and only implanted some thick hairs from my back to my eyebrow. also the angle of the hairs is wrong making the hair grow in a wrong direction (hard to explain.) Since to this day I also did like 20 Anti body hair sessions. I have noticbely less bodyhair. But its still too much for me on some parts (near shoulder, back etc.)
Then this year I finally decided to underwent hair transplant in a very luxurious clinic in turkey. As you may know I suffer from hairloss too and my hairloss actually got much worse after all that stress I had after my rhino. The surgeon was LITERALLY blackpilled as fuck. He told me to actually try min and fin before even considering ht, he said I still have hair on my tonsure and on my frontal too. If I would try min and fin, I could get my hair back, he said. He was more blackpilled than some of the so called blackpilled champions in this forum. So I decided to not do hairtransplant on my tonsure but only for the frontal part. I can only say that the clinic is really good and their surgeons and their team is really, really professional. They did a fantastic job. The result looks great for a hairtransplant. Very natural dense. But there it is: A ht will always be a ht. Even the best hairtransplant will never come close to a natural non receiding hairline. And by doing a ht, you dont get more hair. You only transfer hair from your back to your frontal area. The amount stays the same. I have more hair on my frontal area now but less on my back, I believe back hair is important too. So I ask myself how could I look like if I never experienced major hairloss, how could I look like if I took fin and min earlier? And maybe if I waited and took fin+min before doing ht, how could I look like? I would have more and better hair for sure. Im not regretting ht, I just regret that I did it too early. I should have waited 1 or maybe 2 years. Trying fin and min before doing ht is a musthave. otherwise you are an idiot.

And on top of that my masseter hypertrophy has ruined my face more than anything else. My zygo projection which I was so proud of is literally gone because the massters are too big and are hiding those zygos. Even after like 8 botox sessions, masseters are too big and my face is too roundish looking.

So to summarize of all the things that bothered and killed me:

Nose/Nosetip: It would literally take like another 3-4 years until my nosetip would look normal like any other nosetip. So even if I would have fixed all my other things, I would still be a subhuman
Masseter Hypertrophy: Because of my masseter hypertrophy, my cheekbones are literally gone and my face looks kinda fat. Cheekbones are literally the only good thing about me next to browridge and lips.
Eyebrow: Because of a incident from my childhool my left eyebow is permanent deformed. And nothing on this planet will make it look symmetrical again.
Hair: Im suffering from hairloss, did a ht (which is actually very good result) but I am still not statisfied. I wish I would have done shit like fin + min earlier before doing ht. Hell I wish I would have never experienced hairloss.
Bodyhair: Still too much bodyhair for me even after like 20 sessions
Short: Because of my shit fathers genetics Im a short manlet. And only ll can change that, a surgery for breaking my legs.

I could list 1000 others things like pimple and small acne on my back of my body, blackheads on my nose.

I could fix none of the things that bothered me the most - in almost 3 years. No matter what I do, nothing ever changes in my life. Its really sad. The chewing shit was the final nail in the coffin. I believe chewing was the greatest mistake I have done in my life.

I finally admit. Its over. Forsaken. Outcasted from the world. I never wanted to be ugly. Im a like legendary figure from a book. A entity arisen from a nightmare. Born to suffer. Never in the position to be redeemed. It has to end. There shouldnt be any more ugly people. Abnormal creatures. They have no right to exist, I have to bring it to an end I guess. I will never bring any children in to this world with my genes.

Its over. Im sorry. I wish nothing more that someone in this world could finally cast me out peacefully. I just wish not to suffer for me any longer. I worked so hard in the last 3 years, for nothing... Yes, I admit it, I believe that I was better looking like 2-3 years ago. I actually became uglier. I was better looking pre looksmax. its fact.

@Germania
@Beastimmung
@BearBoy
@amsterdammer
@Gaia262
@ecig
@JustAFewMM
@Bitch
@Bewusst
@EverythingMaxxer

 

[BearBoy]

We all are Gods little abused bitches and there is nothing we can do about it.. You get a nose surgery? God will make it go wrong and the nose will become villager tier. You get buccal fat removal? God will make the fat regrow twice as much and you will look like a bloatlord.

There is no escape simply because it was all written down.

 

[CursedOne]

We all are Gods little abused bitches and there is nothing we can do about it.. You get a nose surgery? God will make it go wrong and the nose will become villager tier. You get buccal fat removal? God will make the fat regrow twice as much and you will look like a bloatlord.

There is no escape simply because it was all written down.

I dont agree on the god part but I agree that it is all predestined. We sadly cant escape our fate. I was never made to be mogger or a "chad". I was made to suffer. I understand it now finally. I should have accept this a long time ago

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Not a word

 

[Deleted member 16371]

I read two words

 

[Germania]

I hope I'm not being too offensive because I like you and want to help you. Since you are quite open here, I will also be open with you:

- You have deeper problems than your looks. I know your voice messages and I can tell from the way you talk that something is wrong with you, I won't go into detail here.

- You keep talking about the tip of your nose, a little scar on your eyebrow, and masseter come on dude. If you didn't have any of that, you'd still be an incel, be honest with yourself. It doesn't make a significant difference in your appearance.

- I know your face pics, you don't even do the absolute basic softmaxes. Your grooming looks bad, your hairstyle, everything about softmax. I'm sure you don't pay attention to your clothing style either. But as long as you haven't done every softmax, you don't even have to think about any surgeries.

- JFL about height, i'm only a centimeter taller and feel completely average here in east germany and even a bit above in ethnic cities like Frankfurt. I've never heard a comment about height in my entire life, why should it, it's death average. All the chads and slayers i know are also +- average height, do you think they'll even think about it for a second? If you suddenly grow 15 cm overnight, still no woman would desire you.

___


I will privately send you a pic of a good friend of mine, I think you're on the same looks level, he's even shorter than you. However, he's had over 100 girls. Okay, no models, average women, but you have to play +- in your league. I helped him with his Tinder and social media presence, half of his slays are on me.

I don't want to brag, just hsow you what is possible. But I had little success in my early 20's and have progressed and worked hard on me to having round about 30 slays with attractive girls only this year alone, 2 different girls on one day and so on (I'm not counting aynmore). It's possible, belive me and you are not deformed or like 150cm short.

I offer you to help you personally, not publicly in this forum, but privately via chat. Take it or leave it, but I promise I can help you. It's not just your looks, it's also your "personality" and acting that's "wrong". I'll write to you privately in a moment, I mean well with you.

 

[ecig]

I hope I'm not being too offensive because I like you and want to help you. Since you are quite open here, I will also be open with you:

- You have deeper problems than your looks. I know your voice messages and I can tell from the way you talk that something is wrong with you, I won't go into detail here.

- You keep talking about the tip of your nose, a little scar on your eyebrow, and masseter come on dude. If you didn't have any of that, you'd still be an incel, be honest with yourself. It doesn't make a significant difference in your appearance.

- I know your face pics, you don't even do the absolute basic softmaxes. Your grooming looks bad, your hairstyle, everything about softmax. I'm sure you don't pay attention to your clothing style either. But as long as you haven't done every softmax, you don't even have to think about any surgeries.

- JFL about height, i'm only a centimeter taller and feel completely average here in east germany and even a bit above in ethnic cities like Frankfurt. I've never heard a comment about height in my entire life, why should it, it's death average. All the chads and slayers i know are also +- average height, do you think they'll even think about it for a second? If you suddenly grow 15 cm overnight, still no woman would desire you.

___


I will privately send you a pic of a good friend of mine, I think you're on the same looks level, he's even shorter than you. However, he's had over 100 girls. Okay, no models, average women, but you have to play +- in your league. I helped him with his Tinder and social media presence, half of his slays are on me.

I don't want to brag, just hsow you what is possible. But I had little success in my early 20's and have progressed and worked hard on me to having round about 30 slays with attractive girls only this year alone, 2 different girls on one day and so on (I'm not counting aynmore). It's possible, belive me and you are not deformed or like 150cm short.

I offer you to help you personally, not publicly in this forum, but privately via chat. Take it or leave it, but I promise I can help you. It's not just your looks, it's also your "personality" and acting that's "wrong". I'll write to you privately in a moment, I mean well with you.

He is right bro.

 

[pardocel]

Dnrd

 

[Bewusst]

Instead of writing a novel no one's going to read, you could let a couple of pictures do the talking for you. I may have a wild imagination, but I certainly don't have the attention span to read through this mountain of letters

 

[Dr. Bludy]

Write a book next time jfl

 

[BrahminBoss]

Instead of writing a novel no one's going to read, you could let a couple of pictures do the talking for you. I may have a wild imagination, but I certainly don't have the attention span to read through this mountain of letters

Write a book next time jfl

 

[Deleted member 21969]

I unironically read everything. I can honestly relate to how you feel, you got my respects

 

[Bewusst]

Write a book next time jfl

@BrahminBoss he did. It's called self-therapy

 

[buflek]

everything germania said is right

theres literally guys with bug eyes, flat maxillas, complete balding genes, turbo manlets, lefort3 candidates and they cry less than you with these fucking „failos“ jfl

also i developed my masseters by chewing. it looked good, many compliments by foids. i got lazy and all the muscles vanished over time. so if you really hate the look then concentrate on athrophy. stop chewing hard food for a few weeks and just eat soft shit

you also mentioned how being a little fat is not the cause of inceldom. how do you know? ever hit the gym and looked skinny and muscular? it makes a huge diggerence, im speaking from experience.

nose is one of the most important features for girls. i would agree with you if you said you have a pussy between your legs but youre a fucking guy jfl. you will not be able to be a model like chico or barret but in the real world nose (unless giga huge or deformed tier crooked) is one of the least important features for a man.

im 176cm and got a gl gf while having girl approaches so that also isnt an excuse (also in germany).

i also have problems with balding and i dont tolerate fin. be happy it works for you jfl. i got a problem if it keeps receding and theres nothing i can do about it.

all in all your failos are laughable for most users on here. most guys got a lot bigger problems than a small scar on eyebrow and a weird looking nosetip.