I think I’ve fully lost faith

[vxfx]

Blackpill and religion can not coexist in your mind as two of your ideologies. I have lost faith in God. I realize how delusional it sounds that I’m scared of the sins that typing this may bring me. I am, or was a Muslim. No all-loving God would curse me with subhuman genes but bless others with decent ones.

 

[HtnceI]

Based, relegion is prison

 

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[Clqs]

No 72 virgins for you in jannah then

 

[achance]

Blackpill and religion can not coexist in your mind as two of your ideologies. I have lost faith in God. I realize how delusional it sounds that I’m scared of the sins that typing this may bring me. I am, or was a Muslim. No all-loving God would curse me with subhuman genes but bless others with decent ones.

Why not? Humans place value on the external, but God values the internal, your spirit.

 

[vxfx]

Why not? Humans place value on the external, but God values the internal, your spirit.

You don’t truly understand the blackpill in that case.

 

[JasGews69x]

If God real why bad thing happen?
Checkmate theist

 

[autistic.goblin]

That’s a good thing, now you can eat pork and mog in gaza or something

 

[vxfx]

If God real why bad thing happen?
Checkmate theist

Not at all what I am hinting at. If God was ALL loving, he would not curse certain people genetically and drive them to suicide.

 

[JasGews69x]

Not at all what I am hinting at. If God was ALL loving, he would not curse certain people genetically and drive them to suicide.

What do you mean by All loving?

 

[vxfx]

What do you mean by All loving?

Loving all of his creation

 

[JasGews69x]

Loving all of his creation

But He isnt though
There are certain things He doesnt love though
He is the Most-Loving

 

[achance]

Not at all what I am hinting at. If God was ALL loving, he would not curse certain people genetically and drive them to suicide.

It's our free will that does that, not God.

 

[Prøphet]

Some of us are meant to live like a King while others are meant to live like Job

 

[Prøphet]

It's our free will that does that, not God.

Is it free will if God already knows what we’re going to choose, and had this knowledge while designing us?

 

[vxfx]

It's our free will that does that, not God.

“god” influences our “free” will by giving people biological challenges

 

[vxfx]

But He isnt though
There are certain things He doesnt love though
He is the Most-Loving

so you’re telling me he just curses some of his creations for the hell of it

 

[brotato78]

It's our free will that does that, not God.

Jfl if you believe in free will, everyone is fated

Glad this dude woke up and stopped coping

 

[LKira]

If God is real, He hates us.

 

[JasGews69x]

so you’re telling me he just curses some of his creations for the hell of it

Disliking something doesnt mean that God 'curses' people for the hell of it or that ur cursed - this is an emotional argument, not based on any logic or reasoning

God gives people different challenges to people to test their character, everyone has their own path -
Some are given blessings are a test to reveal their nature.
Some are given hardship to reveal their nature.
you're fit for purpose which is to worship God - not to satisfy your ego with hedonistic pleasures

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

Congrats

The Biblical/Abrahamic God is a useless deity

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

God gives people different challenges to people to test their character, everyone has their own path

The Challenge: Being born in a war-torn country and dying to a bomb at 2yo

The Challenge: Dying of a natural disaster

God has a plan for us bro

 

[chudcell999]

Blackpill and religion can not coexist in your mind as two of your ideologies. I have lost faith in God. I realize how delusional it sounds that I’m scared of the sins that typing this may bring me. I am, or was a Muslim. No all-loving God would curse me with subhuman genes but bless others with decent ones.

God can simultaneously exist and bad things still happen matter of fact it says it in the Bible it is your job to resist them and to keep your faith but I don't believe in God not because I believe God is evil or is cruel but I simply just believe in science, science and God can't coexist science is hard rules phenomenons that can be explained God is supernatural no hard set rules and we've already proven science exist so I'm not going to believe in an alternative unless it can be proven

 

[vxfx]

God can simultaneously exist and bad things still happen matter of fact it says it in the Bible it is your job to resist them and to keep your faith but I don't believe in God not because I believe God is evil or is cruel but I simply just believe in science, science and God can't coexist science is hard rules phenomenons that can be explained God is supernatural no hard set rules and we've already proven science exist so I'm not going to believe in an alternative unless it can be proven

my job to resist my genetics? JFL

 

[chudcell999]

my job to resist my genetics? JFL

Yes your job is to work through hardship and keep faith in God I think it's silly to stop believing because you feel like your life is garbage some of the reasons are your fault but I don't believe in God either but it's for completely non-cope reasons

 

[JasGews69x]

The Challenge: Being born in a war-torn country and dying to a bomb at 2yo

Low iq response as I expected
The test is for everyone - for the people around them and for people across the world too.
Its a test for the people who are doing the bombing and killing aswell.
Children who die go to Paradise for free and they can take their parents to paradise aswell.

The Challenge: Dying of a natural disaster

The 'Natural disaster' is commanded by God Himself.
Did you think you were an invincible God and that you're gonna live for ever?
Their free trial of life has finished.
Humans when they realise they arent immortal or eternal:

God has a plan for us bro

Womp Womp

 

[kisuke]

Disliking something doesnt mean that God 'curses' people for the hell of it or that ur cursed - this is an emotional argument, not based on any logic or reasoning

God gives people different challenges to people to test their character, everyone has their own path -
Some are given blessings are a test to reveal their nature.
Some are given hardship to reveal their nature.
you're fit for purpose which is to worship God - not to satisfy your ego with hedonistic pleasures

the fact that god is omniscient totally invalidates what you're saying , he hypothetically creates hardships for people but since he's all knowing he already know the outcome those hardships will have on that person . an all loving all powerful all knowing god is simply not possible , otherwise he would just send us all to heaven where none of us can sin and still have free will . stop coping and accept that everything in this world is based on luck , you will feel better after accepting it

 

[kisuke]

my job to resist my genetics? JFL

these niggas need a god to cope with the fact that they weren't a part of the lucky bunch , that's why poor people and people in third world countries are the most faithful , and people in the countries with the highest quality of life are the most atheist

 

[JasGews69x]

he fact that god is omniscient totally invalidates what you're saying , he hypothetically creates hardships for people but since he's all knowing he already know the outcome those hardships will have on that person

Yeah so?
That doesnt mean He is forcing you to do anything
Knowing ≠ forcing - just like a video - the person in it did all their actions by them self.

an all loving all powerful all knowing god is simply not possible ,

Yeah i dont believe that - He is the Most Loving not All Loving.
He has more attributes that just that - He has perfect Wisdom,justice,knowledge etc

otherwise he would just send us all to heaven where none of us can sin and still have free will

You can have free will without sin jfl

stop coping and accept that everything in this world is based on luck , you will feel better after accepting it

'Accept my trash arguments or you're coping'

What is luck?

 

[kisuke]

You can have free will without sin jfl

thats how i know you're low iq , in heaven we wouldn't even have the possibility to sin , god is supposedly a perfect creator , a realm where his creations ( humans ) have a better outcome would be preferable yet we are in this shithole of a world

Yeah so?
That doesnt mean He is forcing you to do anything
Knowing ≠ forcing - just like a video - the person in it did all their actions by them self.

brother he is creating the hardship already KNOWING the outcome become he is all knowing , if i make someone jump off a bridge knowing he's gonna die how does that not make me evil , when god creates hardship and people and up losing faith or hating him because of it he's aware and he's the direct cause because he's all powerful and all knowing . if he wasn't omniscient free will would actually make sense

You can have free will without sin jfl

jesus wouldnt have died on the cross for our sins if we were capable of living sin free lives , jesus literally came in this world to show us what a sinless human being was like because no human could be like that so stop coping

What is luck?

random events that you had no impact in that end up benefiting you , if you can't comprehed that luck in terms of genetics and the environment we were born is the biggest factor for quality of life i don't know what to tell you

 

[greycel]

the fact that god is omniscient totally invalidates what you're saying , he hypothetically creates hardships for people but since he's all knowing he already know the outcome those hardships will have on that person . an all loving all powerful all knowing god is simply not possible , otherwise he would just send us all to heaven where none of us can sin and still have free will . stop coping and accept that everything in this world is based on luck , you will feel better after accepting it

How do you know if anybody but you has consciousness?
You don’t know for a fact that everybody around you isn’t an empty puppet / a human robot without a soul

So even if that human is sad, there’s no soul to experience their humanity

You can only guarantee your own.
Now if I asked you: if nobody else is alive and God made this world for you. To test your choices, the answer condenses into a subjective matter

That subjective assessment of what was bad relied on the relative (others). You remove others and there’s no reference point
Your judgement is skewed

Only you can guarantee your own existence.
Don’t be restricted to your humanity because you trust others are.
Start practicing healthy detachment from this material world:

https://looksmax.org/threads/hes-actually-dead.1838984/#post-25813059

 

[kisuke]

Start practicing healthy detachment from this material world:

already trying bro , my posts were against a religious point of view of the world that's christian or muslim judging from the previous messages which i believe are total mind emprisonment in my opinion

i actually like the concept of solipsism because it reinforces accountability and focusing on your own individuality

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

Low iq response as I expected
The test is for everyone - for the people around them and for people across the world too.
Its a test for the people who are doing the bombing and killing aswell.
Children who die go to Paradise for free and they can take their parents to paradise aswell.

The 'Natural disaster' is commanded by God Himself.
Did you think you were an invincible God and that you're gonna live for ever?
Their free trial of life has finished.
Humans when they realise they arent immortal or eternal:

Womp Womp

- User JasGews69x

“It’s a test bro! A Challenge! He created your existence for you to be tortured for a reason Palestinian/Sudanese Children!! And the best part, you aren’t even guaranteed Heaven!”

If you weren’t a sheep and had the ability to critically think, you’d realize how terrible that answer is, especially when acknowledging “God’s” feats (Being the creator of creation). Then again, I believe you’re being retarded, fallacious and inhumane on purpose, like many do. Nice tactic

 

[JasGews69x]

thats how i know you're low iq ,

in heaven we wouldn't even have the possibility to sin

Which means you can have free will without sin.
What do you mean by free will? A choice in action right?
If you dont have any choice in any action - it just means you're an NPC

god is supposedly a perfect creator , a realm where his creations ( humans ) have a better outcome would be preferable yet we are in this shithole of a world

Womp womp
His creation His choice
Just because this world isnt the way your ego wants doesnt mean it isnt perfect.
Humans reject Gods teachings -> face consequences -> then cry about it

brother he is creating the hardship already KNOWING the outcome become he is all knowing , if i make someone jump off a bridge knowing he's gonna die how does that not make me evil ,

He creates it - He gives you the choice to do it or not to do it. If there was none - it would be stopped from happening
It seems like you dont want responsibility for your own actions.
Nobody is forcing you to rope
We were talking about 'free will' now you're crying saying He is evil - twisting the argument jfl
What is 'evil'?
Its just breaking Gods law - It doesnt apply to God

when god creates hardship and people and up losing faith or hating him because of it he's aware and he's the direct cause because he's all powerful and all knowing

He tests you to reveal your true nature - He is giving you the ability to 'lose faith' and 'hate Him'
He doesnt need anyone
You just need to drop your ego

jesus wouldnt have died on the cross for our sins if we were capable of living sin free lives , jesus literally came in this world to show us what a sinless human being was like because no human could be like that so stop coping

Hmmm...bible shows a few sins
but im not a Christian -are you?
I wasnt talking about this world - i was talking about heaven.
God can remove the 'desire' to sin and remove it while giving us the choice to do what ever based on that.

random events that you had no impact in that end up benefiting you , if you can't comprehed that luck in terms of genetics and the environment we were born is the biggest factor for quality of life i don't know what to tell you

Jfl what is 'random'?
Random just means 'ignorance of the factors that caused it' eg flipping a coin if you knew all the factors such as force ,wind resistance etc - you could know every filp that happens and its result.
Luck/random is just ignorance of what caused it - its not real jfl

God choose you to be in the body you have based on His infinite wisdom and knowledge

 

[greycel]

already trying bro , my posts were against a religious point of view of the world that's christian or muslim judging from the previous messages which i believe are total mind emprisonment in my opinion

i actually like the concept of solipsism because it reinforces accountability and focusing on your own individuality

You know, the most abnormal trait I’ve noticed, with the most spiritually enlightened individuals across any religion, was their detachment from this world.
I think there’s for sure some Truth in this

They’re detached not only from the negative, but the positive too
I’ve also noticed that these people don’t actually try to convince anyone. They aren’t preachers or public figures. Their convincing is done passively, by merit of their actions

 

[kisuke]

Which means you can have free will without sin.
What do you mean by free will? A choice in action right?
If you dont have any choice in any action - it just means you're an NPC

Womp womp
His creation His choice
Just because this world isnt the way your ego wants doesnt mean it isnt perfect.
Humans reject Gods teachings -> face consequences -> then cry about it

He creates it - He gives you the choice to do it or not to do it. If there was none - it would be stopped from happening
It seems like you dont want responsibility for your own actions.
Nobody is forcing you to rope
We were talking about 'free will' now you're crying saying He is evil - twisting the argument jfl
What is 'evil'?
Its just breaking Gods law - It doesnt apply to God

He tests you to reveal your true nature - He is giving you the ability to 'lose faith' and 'hate Him'
He doesnt need anyone
You just need to drop your ego

Hmmm...bible shows a few sins
but im not a Christian -are you?
I wasnt talking about this world - i was talking about heaven.
God can remove the 'desire' to sin and remove it while giving us the choice to do what ever based on that.

Jfl what is 'random'?
Random just means 'ignorance of the factors that caused it' eg flipping a coin if you knew all the factors such as force ,wind resistance etc - you could know every filp that happens and its result.
Luck/random is just ignorance of what caused it - its not real jfl

God choose you to be in the body you have based on His infinite wisdom and knowledge

at this point you're not understanding on purpose lol

Which means you can have free will without sin.
What do you mean by free will? A choice in action right?
If you dont have any choice in any action - it just means you're an NPC

exactly my point if we can have free will ( same as earth ) without the possibility to sin , so a perfect sinless life , why not just send everyone ( which he supposedly "love equally" ) directly in heaven , that would be a pefect world from a perfect creator

He tests you to reveal your true nature - He is giving you the ability to 'lose faith' and 'hate Him'
He doesnt need anyone
You just need to drop your ego

once again , why a test to reveal your true nature when he knows it already , he's all knowing , i don't know why you're acting like you can't comprehend what i'm saying lol , those tests are useless , he already knows the answer

Hmmm...bible shows a few sins
but im not a Christian -are you?
I wasnt talking about this world - i was talking about heaven.
God can remove the 'desire' to sin and remove it while giving us the choice to do what ever based on that.

also not a christian , and please tell me ONE sin that jesus has committed , he's literally described as a perfect sinless human don't start lying to make a point bro . and by the way thank you for proving my point , if god can remove the desire to sin then he's purposely letting people sin which can send them in hell . see how you're contradicting yourself lol , an all knowing god invalidates everything bro sorry

Jfl what is 'random'?
Random just means 'ignorance of the factors that caused it' eg flipping a coin if you knew all the factors such as force ,wind resistance etc - you could know every filp that happens and its result.
Luck/random is just ignorance of what caused it - its not real jfl

God choose you to be in the body you have based on His infinite wisdom and knowledge

exactly why god was created by humans lol , humans created god to explain the unexplainable , explain the things we ignore , if you chose to believe all the things you ignore are just "god's plan" so be it i'm not gonna debate that

 

[JasGews69x]

“It’s a test bro! A Challenge! He created your existence for you to be tortured for a reason Palestinian/Sudanese Children!! And the best part, you aren’t even guaranteed Heaven!”

Cant engage?
What is your argument?

You're just trying to make a mocking statement to dodge and straw manned

Nobody is entitled to Paradise - jfl at this Kafir ego

If you weren’t a sheep and had the ability to critically think, you’d realize how terrible that answer is,

Yes you're so enlightened bro Im just gonna say your a sheep because i cant repsond
Ad hominem rebuttal - You havent shown why its wrong or the internal contradictions in what i said

Saying an answer is “terrible” requires standards - None are shown so its just empty rhetoric - like your existence


Reality doesnt go in line with your ego

Respond to what im saying or im just gonna assume you cant engage and are just dodging

Then again, I believe you’re being retarded, fallacious and inhumane on purpose, like many do. Nice tactic

More empty statements
Inhumane? Jfl at this vague 'inhumanity' its logic - something YOU cant handle
Yes. you're so Human and compassionate and EPIC

exactly my point if we can have free will ( same as earth ) without the possibility to sin , so a perfect sinless life , why not just send everyone ( which he supposedly "love equally" ) directly in heaven , that would be a pefect world from a perfect creator

Why does He need to do that though? His creation His choice
Just because you like it doesnt mean He MUST do it lol He doesnt need your permission.
No He doesnt love everyone equally - the best are those in deed are the most loved.

once again , why a test to reveal your true nature when he knows it already , he's all knowing , i don't know why you're acting like you can't comprehend what i'm saying lol , those tests are useless , he already knows the answer

Its not for Him, its for you
So you dont complain on where you end up

also not a christian , and please tell me ONE sin that jesus has committed , he's literally described as a perfect sinless human don't start lying to make a point bro .

He lied about going to a festival
He said he wasnt gonna go but then ended up going which is a lie.
He called a woman that was asking for help a 'dog'
i can give more

and by the way thank you for proving my point , if god can remove the desire to sin then he's purposely letting people sin which can send them in hell . see how you're contradicting yourself lol , an all knowing god invalidates everything bro sorry

He can remove the desire to sin - He made angels
Humans were given the desire to sin as a test - He also gave them the ability to repent.
Hell is punishment - its not supposed to be 'nice'
'Purposely' - OMG actions have consequences

Can you point out the contradiction?

exactly why god was created by humans lol , humans created god to explain the unexplainable , explain the things we ignore

Proof humans created God to explain to unexplainable?
Explaining how something works doesnt negate its design - its like saying a phone wasnt designed because you know how the battery works jfl.

Explain what things we ignore?

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

What is your argument?

I don’t waste time on your kind lmao

You just metaphorized children dying in gruesome ways as “free trials expiring” and think you have the emotional or logical competence to discuss a deity as useless as the Abrahamic God. Have a good life whitey

 

[manhattanbound]

Blackpill and religion can not coexist in your mind as two of your ideologies. I have lost faith in God. I realize how delusional it sounds that I’m scared of the sins that typing this may bring me. I am, or was a Muslim. No all-loving God would curse me with subhuman genes but bless others with decent ones.

Same I was born Hindu but now idk what to believe in

 

[zombey]

The black pill exists and affects people only on Earth--it is still very real. In God’s ideal plan for us, the black pill would not exist. Adam and Eve’s sin created the black pill.

Personally, if the black pill is all there is to the world, then why not commit suicide: what’s really the point if we are all carnal selfish animals taking advantage of each other? Cheap dopamine is only temporary; pleasures of Earth are like chasing the wind. That’s why having a belief in something greater is truly necessary for happiness (my personal belief).

 

[ngannou]

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved