I think natty gymcels should get fat transfer

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Transfer the abdominal fat to shoulders, arms, chest. (dont forget to get pelvic liposuction to gain npb penis gains and to transfer them to your penis to get girth gains). Not a single fat cell is wasted!!

Have visible abs even when you bulk.

Eliminate the biggest dilemma of natty gymcelling : keeping abs or being big

Though dont bulk to a point where your face descends
 
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I was just thinking about this lol
 
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I was just thinking about this lol
i was also thinking of if they should get synthol. a turkish body building coach that i watched on youtube says 7 of 10 people who steps on stage use synthol.

synthol is permanent too.
 
or just do training, eat a lot of protein and do cardio and get it all natural. Most of looksmax users are young and if they go good diet + consistant traiinng they will get frame growth. I started training hard at 17, I'm almost 19 right now and my frame got huge growth. I think carnivore play a big role in taht.
 
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i was also thinking of if they should get synthol. a turkish body building coach that i watched on youtube says 7 of 10 people who steps on stage use synthol.

synthol is permanent too.

There's actually no need to transfer the fat, just get 3D lipo on abs and maybe some areas of face and be done with it.

Synthol isn't permanent from what I've read?
 
or just do training, eat a lot of protein and do cardio and get it all natural. Most of looksmax users are young and if they go good diet + consistant traiinng they will get frame growth. I started training hard at 17, I'm almost 19 right now and my frame got huge growth. I think carnivore play a big role in taht.
how about you go back to trp :pepefrown::pepefrown:
There's actually no need to transfer the fat, just get 3D lipo on abs and maybe some areas of face and be done with it.
Tranesfering them to get even bigger arms shoulders and chest, not a single fat cell is wasted.

but maybe transfering might end uncanny tho. should be done subtle.
Synthol isn't permanent from what I've read?
yes the synthol itself leaves your body after 5-6 month but the muscle stretch it gives is later filled with real muscle fibers then it becomes permanent.
 
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Tranesfering them to get even bigger arms shoulders and chest, not a single fat cell is wasted.

You could just get the 3D lipo done on abs and submental etc at whatever body fat percentage makes you happy with your arm/shoulder definition and vascularity. Bigger isn't always better if it comes at the cost of looking soft.
 
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You could just get the 3D lipo done on abs and submental etc at whatever body fat percentage makes you happy with your arm/shoulder definition and vascularity. Bigger isn't always better if it comes at the cost of looking soft.
yeah you are right i guess, a bit of bulking would do the trick for arms without fat transfer.

might just transfer them to penis and undereyes if needed :feelshehe::feelshehe:
 
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yeah you are right i guess, a bit of bulking would do the trick for arms without fat transfer.

might just transfer them to penis and undereyes if needed :feelshehe::feelshehe:

Surely penis isn't a thing lol
 
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or just do training, eat a lot of protein and do cardio and get it all natural. Most of looksmax users are young and if they go good diet + consistant traiinng they will get frame growth. I started training hard at 17, I'm almost 19 right now and my frame got huge growth. I think carnivore play a big role in taht.
Wrong place bud. They’re too lazy to put in the work.
 
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wdym? its done by doctors. but gives a bit of soft texture. still worth if you are turbo girthlet.

Penis doesn't normally have fat in it I thought, it's a bit weird.

I think the general idea of lipo'ing the abs and love handles is excellent though.

Too late for me now as I'm already half way through DNP cycle. But maybe after the next "bulk".
 
just ruin your shoulder definition to look better in a shirt theory.
 
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I think general anesthesia is required for this... a little inconvenient. How long does it last? Let's say you cut, will you lose shoulder fat? How soon does hip fat come back?
 
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I think general anesthesia is required for this... a little inconvenient. How long does it last? Let's say you cut, will you lose shoulder fat? How soon does hip fat come back?
you wont lose all the transfered ones, the cells with get smaller but they are still there and its permanent

your fat cells are permanently transfered. they dont comeback. only the left overs will get bigger if you get fat. there will no be new fat cels there.
 
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you wont lose all the transfered ones, the cells with get smaller but they are still there and its permanent

your fat cells are permanently transfered. they dont comeback. only the left overs will get bigger if you get fat. there will no be new fat cels there.

I didn't know how it works
 
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(dont forget to get pelvic liposuction to gain npb penis gains and to transfer them to your penis to get girth gains). Not a single fat cell is wasted!!

Have visible abs even when you bulk.

Eliminate the biggest dilemma of natty gymcelling : keeping abs or being big
This is legit but I don't want to ruin shoulder definition
 
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and the aesthetics, can fat spread and worsen the design of muscles?
 
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or just do training, eat a lot of protein and do cardio and get it all natural. Most of looksmax users are young and if they go good diet + consistant traiinng they will get frame growth. I started training hard at 17, I'm almost 19 right now and my frame got huge growth. I think carnivore play a big role in taht.
Wrong place bud. They’re too lazy to put in the work.
some people have shit genetics, simple as that.
and the aesthetics, can fat spread and worsen the design of muscles?
just ruin your shoulder definition to look better in a shirt theory.
he might be right about this part. if i was going to inject, i think i would only go with shoulder because frame gains and penis and undereyes if needed.
This is legit but I don't want to ruin shoulder definition
then just get abdominal liposuction but dont transfer them to anywhere and just enter to a moderate bulk mode while keeping abs. easy :Comfy::Comfy:
 
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he might be right about this part. if i was going to inject, i think i would only go with shoulder because frame gains and penis and undereyes if needed.
wouldn't it make more sense to put it in your calves and forearms and upper chest?

since definition in those areas is not as relevant, and natties generally struggle to develop those areas more than their shoulders.
 
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@Arborist thats what i am talking about. @Gaia262 also got this procedure. i also remember seeing results from eppley. somehow the fat doesnt look soft it looks like real muscle.

wouldn't it make more sense to put it in your calves and forearms and upper chest?

since definition in those areas is not as relevant, and natties generally struggle to develop those areas more than their shoulders.
yeah i too was thinking about getting for forearms.
 
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some people have shit genetics, simple as that.


he might be right about this part. if i was going to inject, i think i would only go with shoulder because frame gains and penis and undereyes if needed.

then just get abdominal liposuction but dont transfer them to anywhere and just enter to a moderate bulk mode while keeping abs. easy :Comfy::Comfy:
Maybe someone have better genetic, someone worse but this life style like training and eating clean organic food will get closer to your MAXIMUM genetic potential.
 
@Arborist thats what i am talking about. @Gaia262 also got this procedure. i also remember seeing results from eppley. somehow the fat doesnt look soft it looks like real muscle.


yeah i too was thinking about getting for forearms.
looks pretty good to be honest, wonder if it affects bulking since one of the primary reasons to not get too fat is because the fat cells near the stomach start converting a lot of testosterone into estrogen at higher bodyfat, wouldn't they still do that even if they're relocated elsewhere?
 
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Its usefull only for endomorphs
 
Maybe someone have better genetic, someone worse but this life style like training and eating clean organic food will get closer to your MAXIMUM genetic potential.
it takes years to achieve genetic potential and even after that its probably not that maginificent as you expect it to be.

people here are getting crazy surgeries, some fat transfer wouldnt hurt anyone... yes do the hardworking too to get used to hardworking but dont refrain from taking the shortcuts if it helps with your progress.
looks pretty good to be honest, wonder if it affects bulking since one of the primary reasons to not get too fat is because the fat cells near the stomach start converting a lot of testosterone into estrogen at higher bodyfat, wouldn't they still do that even if they're relocated elsewhere?
i know that being high bf makes you aromatize more but i dont how the fat near stomach is related to this. can you give a source on that?
Its usefull only for endomorphs
lol bro, just bulk like pig, use some gainer or smth.
 
it takes years to achieve genetic potential and even after that its probably not that maginificent as you expect it to be.

people here are getting crazy surgeries, some fat transfer wouldnt hurt anyone... yes do the hardworking too to get used to hardworking but dont refrain from taking the shortcuts if it helps with your progress.

i know that being high bf makes you aromatize more but i dont how the fat near stomach is related to this. can you give a source on that?

lol bro, just bulk like pig, use some gainer or smth.
I mean good diet ( propoer nutrition ) + muscles in young age will make you more chad lookly beacuse it will optimal your hormones and your development, not only physyical but also mental.
 
looks pretty good to be honest, wonder if it affects bulking since one of the primary reasons to not get too fat is because the fat cells near the stomach start converting a lot of testosterone into estrogen at higher bodyfat, wouldn't they still do that even if they're relocated elsewhere?
it seems like it may mess with your vascualirty tho. fat is placed over muscle.
 
i know that being high bf makes you aromatize more but i dont how the fat near stomach is related to this. can you give a source on that?

it's specifically visceral fat that does this, which tends to be concentrated in that area in men, but it appears that there's not much difference in the fat itself, it's just the location, i.e all types of fat produce estrogen, but those in the stomach are just more active and have more impact.



>Visceral fat has a higher density of cells, carries more blood flow, and more receptors for hormones whilst research suggests that the visceral fat cells are also more biologically active, producing hormones and other substances, such as cytokines.

here's another useful source but it's rather long.


I had to dig through a lot of sources for this because they kept referencing each other and none of them outright want to state anything, there's also 10 separate terms for stomach fat that all mean the same thing which makes it even more confusing.
 
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