i think people here are overcomplicating the use of AAS and other compunds

[jeff1234]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

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[chadisbeingmade]

Problem is most people here are beyond saving facially or are short. Roiding works provided your face is good and not a manlet for body halo.

There are no roids for your face, but there is a face for roids.

But I agree, provided you have a good face, roids are 100% a looksmax and the sides are overblown asf or non existent with the right precautions. There’s a reason why all hollywood / famous people use steroids, it’s because they work.

 

[jeff1234]

Problem is most people here are beyond saving facially or are short. Roiding works provided your face is good and not a manlet for body halo.

There are no roids for your face, but there is a face for roids.

But I agree, provided you have a good face, roids are 100% a looksmax and the sides are overblown asf. There’s a reason why all hollywood / famous people use steroids, it’s because they work.

i dont understand why people became so triggered on it. i mean i get why normal people do, but people on here? thats weird, how else can you looksmax

 

[chadisbeingmade]

i dont understand why people became so triggered on it. i mean i get why normal people do, but people on here? thats weird, how else can you looksmax

It’s literally the only way. If you aren’t roiding you’re probably just growing out your hair and leanmaxing. That’s all you can really do. Even when leanmaxing, roids make it way easier and make maintaining much easier also.

 

[jeff1234]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

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@copercel123 @chadbeingmade @org3cel.RR @Zagro @menas @Randomized Shame

bump

 

[Bitterschön]

Minimum height to consider roiding?

 

[jeff1234]

Minimum height to consider roiding?

you should roid at any height imo. but at 5'2-5'6 dont roid too much, you will look like a gymcel, just cruise test to be honest.

 

[Bitterschön]

you should roid at any height imo. but at 5'2-5'6 dont roid too much, you will look like a gymcel, just cruise test to be honest.

How much T are you taking?

 

[jeff1234]

How much T are you taking?

700 atm

 

[jeff1234]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

AMA


@copercel123 @chadbeingmade @org3cel.RR @Zagro @menas @Randomized Shame

b

 

[org3cel.RR]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

AMA


@copercel123 @chadbeingmade @org3cel.RR @Zagro @menas @Randomized Shame

People are uneducated thats the only reason, the mass gets scared after seeing anything new thats how they work

 

[org3cel.RR]

Problem is most people here are beyond saving facially or are short. Roiding works provided your face is good and not a manlet for body halo.

There are no roids for your face, but there is a face for roids.

But I agree, provided you have a good face, roids are 100% a looksmax and the sides are overblown asf or non existent with the right precautions. There’s a reason why all hollywood / famous people use steroids, it’s because they work.

Brutal manlet pill, if your under 16 u still have some hope tho
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM not over for us yet

 

[kwjqxlw99]

Problem is most people here are beyond saving facially or are short. Roiding works provided your face is good and not a manlet for body halo.

There are no roids for your face, but there is a face for roids.

Well said

 

[org3cel.RR]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

AMA


@copercel123 @chadbeingmade @org3cel.RR @Zagro @menas @Randomized Shame

U should workout while roiding tho lol, me personally I enjoy working out

 

[jeff1234]

U should workout while roiding tho lol, me personally I enjoy working out

i hate working out tbh, i dont even have a gym membership

 

[org3cel.RR]

i hate working out tbh, i dont even have a gym membership

If working out didnt made a difference BBs wouldnt do it

 

[jeff1234]

If working out didnt made a difference BBs wouldnt do it

im not a BB tho. and btw for your knowledge, BBs's workouts are like 10% of their actual journey to the stage

 

[jeff1234]

its not that deep.

i have experience with AASand other compunds (SARMs, peptides etc) for almost 3 years.

you ask, i answer. i will prove you that using roids ia not risky at all, ive been blasting roids since 14 and im almost 17 now. you roids haters are not going to believe this, but i didnt face a single side effect since i started roiding. and if i will send you my first cycles you will laugh at how potent and stupid the cycle was with minimal precautions and still i didnt face 1 side effect.

JFL at fearmongering roids

im walking with a greek god body without even training while the natties are going to the gym 4 times a week for 3 hours each day.

AMA


@copercel123 @chadbeingmade @org3cel.RR @Zagro @menas @Randomized Shame

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[ikramy]

did your balls shrink ? Just kidding tbh I’m already naturally gymmaxxed don’t need roids or I’ll look uncanny

 

[jeff1234]

did your balls shrink ? Just kidding tbh I’m already naturally gymmaxxed don’t need roids or I’ll look uncanny

you wont look uncanny but fine

 

[ikramy]

you wont look uncanny but fine

I literally get roids accusations almost everyday my muscles building genetics are elite

 

[9499449930203049]

you wont look uncanny but fine

would you be able to help me out with roids? i have decent aesthetics facially and an alright bidelt. would very much appreciate ur insight

test 300 mg, 4-6 iu gh, debating on 40 var vs 50-200 tren a. will be running reta 1–2mg , 2.5 mg dut, isotret and a lot of ancillaries sups. i’ve already purchased largely everything but tren/var and few final ancillaries such as RU, nebivolv, elpelerone, ezetimbe

also i’ve been running test for quite awhile and did cycle of just test awhile back so im not completely new to aas
sups;
Super Omega 3

Vitamin D 2000 IU + K2 MK-4 30mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Vitamin E 400 IU

Magnesium 500mg

Zinc 50 Mg

Thiamine 100mg

glycine 3 G

Taurine 3 G

L Arginine 3 G

TUDCA 600mg -

NAC 1200mg -

P5P 100mg (on cruise)

EGCG 400mg

ALA 1200mg

MSM 2400mg

CoQ10 100mg

Melatonin 60 MG

Astaxanthin 18mg

Citrus bergamot 1200 mg

Berberine 400 mg

frame face

 

[jeff1234]

would you be able to help me out with roids? i have decent aesthetics facially and an alright bidelt. would very much appreciate ur insight

test 300 mg, 4-6 iu gh, debating on 40 var vs 50-200 tren a. will be running reta 1–2mg , 2.5 mg dut, isotret and a lot of ancillaries sups. i’ve already purchased largely everything but tren/var and few final ancillaries such as RU, nebivolv, elpelerone, ezetimbe

looks good, increase the test dose to 400-450

if its your 1-3 first cycles, then add only anavar for now, only add tren if you know what youre doing

and what about an AI?


other than that its good.

 

[9499449930203049]

have a decent of aromasin on hand from prior cycles, forgot to include it here.

i guess i probably don’t know what im doing, part of me thinks i can get away with running 50-100 mg tren if i get the bloodwork and have the ancillaries though. but if im not 100% confident i probably dont know what im doing lol

how long do you suppose i can run 40 var for? max amount of time assuming health is in check

thanks for your reply, i appreciate it.

looks good, increase the test dose to 400-450

if its your 1-3 first cycles, then add only anavar for now, only add tren if you know what youre doing

and what about an AI?


other than that its good.

 

[jeff1234]

have a decent of aromasin on hand from prior cycles, forgot to include it here.

i guess i probably don’t know what im doing, part of me thinks i can get away with running 50-100 mg tren if i get the bloodwork and have the ancillaries though. but if im not 100% confident i probably dont know what im doing lol

how long do you suppose i can run 40 var for? max amount of time assuming health is in check

thanks for your reply, i appreciate it

if you dont know what youre doing but really wanna run tren, then doing a 50 tren a week is fine.

and you can run var for 12 weeks max, dont go over that.

youre welcome

 

[9499449930203049]

do you think one would be advantageous to the other, or is it negligible? i would imagine tren would be slightly seuprior but still negligible to 40 var. and if not negligible, it would be to indivualistic to determine

the only thing i could think of is tren increasing igf1(obvious benefits) and then that also helping to help insulin sensitivity but at 50 might be negligible as well lol

if you dont know what youre doing but really wanna run tren, then doing a 50 tren a week is fine.

and you can run var for 12 weeks max, dont go over that.

youre welcome

 

[jeff1234]

do you think one would be advantageous to the other, or is it negligible? i would imagine tren would be slightly seuprior but still negligible to 40 var. and if not negligible, it would be to indivualistic to determine

the only thing i could think of is tren increasing igf1(obvious benefits) and then that also helping to help insulin sensitivity but at 50 might be negligible as well lol

It’s up to you tbh.

I would go with both.

What’s your stats

 

[9499449930203049]

It’s up to you tbh.

I would go with both.

What’s your stats

do you not think that would hurt lipids to much with accutane as well?
would you run something like tren first then anavar after, or in tandem?
i’d like to run both if possible, or atleast some combination of the two.

5’11 170 roughly 16-20% bf
180 cm 77 kg

i would like to get to roughly 155-165/ 70kg to be 10-13% prior to starting other compounds,

while i’m leaning out i’m getting used to reta (potential sides out of the way) and just improve health, saturating dut in my system, cruising at 200 test, and shortly when it arrives i’ll start titrating up hgh from 1 iu to hopefully 4-8 iu, so by the time i start other compounds i’ll be acclimated to everything, if all goes well ig. this is hopefully over the course of 4-8 weeks.

i grew up medically hypogandal until 17.5, so my stats aren’t very good, but having the test of a 3rd grader ur whole life is not advantageous for good body comp lol

thank you again for reading all of this and helping very much appreciated

 

[jeff1234]

do you not think that would hurt lipids to much with accutane as well?
would you run something like tren first then anavar after, or in tandem?
i’d like to run both if possible, or atleast some combination of the two.

5’11 170 roughly 16-20% bf
180 cm 77 kg

i would like to get to roughly 155-165/ 70kg to be 10-13% prior to starting other compounds,

while i’m leaning out here i’m getting used to reta (potential sides out of the way) and improve just improve health, saturating dut in my system, cruising at 200 test, and shortly when it arrives i’ll start titrating up hgh from 1 iu to hopefully 4-8 iu, so by the time i start other compounds i’ll be acclimated to everything, if all goes well ig. this is hopefully over the course of 4-8 weeks.

i grew up medically hypogandal until 17.5, so my stats aren’t very good, but having the test of a 3rd grader ur whole life is not advantageous for good body comp lol

thank you again for reading all of this and helping very much appreciated

What is your age now?
And if you’re afraid of var’s and isotret’s downsides on your liver (which you should) then you can stack NAC and TUDCA with it.
And it’s pointless to do 1 iu to 4-8 over time, just start from 4 iu and go up from there.

 

[9499449930203049]

What is your age now?
And if you’re afraid of var’s and isotret’s downsides on your liver (which you should) then you can stack NAC and TUDCA with it.
And it’s pointless to do 1 iu to 4-8 over time, just start from 4 iu and go up from there.

i’ve read lots of ppl saying they experienced bad side effects from jumping into doses above 2 iu, like becoming pre diabetic fasted gcl off rip or extreme bloating or other issues, so i’m just worried depending on how my body reacts, and given i’ll be in a defecit and don’t have much muscle to lose anyway it didn’t really matter and better safe then sorry.

maybe i’m just a victim of fear mongering or those were old gearheads already on their death bed tho

19 in 2 months so about when i plan to start cycling fully, body composition has improved a lot since starting trt though, i used to be like 25% bf at 155 lbs skinny fat hell.

i guess compounds like trt and var have only helped me so i dont have an aversion to taking more, as long as im not looksminning or experiencing total organ failure

 

[jeff1234]

i’ve read lots of ppl saying they experienced bad side effects from jumping into doses above 2 iu, like becoming pre diabetic fasted gcl off rip or extreme bloating or other issues, so i’m just worried depending on how my body reacts, and given i’ll be in a defecit and don’t have much muscle to lose anyway it didn’t really matter and better safe then sorry.

maybe i’m just a victim of fear mongering or those were old gearheads already on their death bed tho

19 in 2 months so about when i plan to start cycling fully, body composition has improved a lot since starting trt though, i used to be like 25% bf at 155 lbs skinny fat hell.

i guess compounds like trt and var have only helped me so i dont have an aversion to taking more, as long as im not looksminning or experiencing total organ failure

These people are making it up because even at 10 iu of HGH it’s rare to face sides.

 

[Evgeniy291]

700 atm

No bloating?

 

[Evgeniy291]

@jeff1234 the real question is - how long do I need to be on trt to be 100% infertile and not use a condom

 

[jeff1234]

No bloating?

No im on amiloride.

 

[Molecule.psl]

700 atm

700 is mad, youre becoming a super soldier

 

[jeff1234]

700 is mad, youre becoming a super soldier

Not mad at all.

 

[lukePILL]

No im on amiloride.

whats the source

 

[jeff1234]

whats the source

Private. Can’t share it here

 

[lukePILL]

Private. Can’t share it here

where can you share it?

 

[jeff1234]

where can you share it?

Nowhere

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

would you be able to help me out with roids? i have decent aesthetics facially and an alright bidelt. would very much appreciate ur insight

test 300 mg, 4-6 iu gh, debating on 40 var vs 50-200 tren a. will be running reta 1–2mg , 2.5 mg dut, isotret and a lot of ancillaries sups. i’ve already purchased largely everything but tren/var and few final ancillaries such as RU, nebivolv, elpelerone, ezetimbe

also i’ve been running test for quite awhile and did cycle of just test awhile back so im not completely new to aas
sups;
Super Omega 3

Vitamin D 2000 IU + K2 MK-4 30mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Vitamin E 400 IU

Magnesium 500mg

Zinc 50 Mg

Thiamine 100mg

glycine 3 G

Taurine 3 G

L Arginine 3 G

TUDCA 600mg -

NAC 1200mg -

P5P 100mg (on cruise)

EGCG 400mg

ALA 1200mg

MSM 2400mg

CoQ10 100mg

Melatonin 60 MG

Astaxanthin 18mg

Citrus bergamot 1200 mg

Berberine 400 mg

frame face
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actually mirin icl. maybe dont need those supps