I want a big smile

[Angutoid]

What do i do? I dont think MSE is possible at my age, 18.5.
Do surgical palate widening procedures also fuck up your ESR? I only want a big smile, my face is already wide enough
What should i do? Sarpe? Marpe? Something else?

 

[Orc]

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

 

[kwfti]

if you only want a bigger smile and not widening of the face shouldnt you be looking into options to widen the mouth?

 

[kwfti]

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

so mouth size then?

 

[fabi_magyr.incel]

Dont smile wtf is wrong w u

 

[lestoa]

idk how you could get a wider smile without MSE,
MSE or death tbh

maybe MSE could still work @ 18,5. Go to a ortho.

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

how ?

 

[lestoa]

idk how you could get a wider smile without MSE,
MSE or death tbh

maybe MSE could still work @ 18,5. Go to a ortho.

how ?

a 8-10 teeth smile with shine bright teeth is a massive halo tbh,

 

[lestoa]

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

if you only want a bigger smile and not widening of the face shouldnt you be looking into options to widen the mouth?

I think he wants wider teeth, like he wants a 8-10 teeth smile

 

[Orc]

so mouth size then?

think it's mostly just the width of your jaw, it'll stretch your lips even if your palate is tiny.

 

[kwfti]

I think he wants wider teeth, like he wants a 8-10 teeth smile

though his palate was already wide enough, he said he has a wide face. They dont have to both be true ig

 

[Angutoid]

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

if you only want a bigger smile and not widening of the face shouldnt you be looking into options to widen the mouth?

Buccal corridor is very unattractive

 

[kwfti]

think it's mostly just the width of your jaw, it'll stretch your lips even if your palate is tiny.

So if I have a narrow mouth, its probably because of a narrow jaw?

 

[Angutoid]

though his palate was already wide enough, he said he has a wide face. They dont have to both be true ig

Nah my palate is not wide, my face is 100% wide yes but i lack both in palate and mouth width, tho nothing clinical so never got to get it fixed while young

 

[Gonthar]

 

[Orc]

So if I have a narrow mouth, its probably because of a narrow jaw?

they're not always related.

my palate is child sized, my smile is still pretty wide because my jaw isn't actually narrow.

 

[Angutoid]

they're not always related.

my palate is child sized, my smile is still pretty wide because my jaw isn't actually narrow.

You must have massive buccal corridor then no? Its not something i want personally but better than what i have

 

[Orc]

You must have massive buccal corridor then no? Its not something i want personally but better than what i have

yes, but I don't smile with my mouth open.

 

[Angutoid]

yes, but I don't smile with my mouth open.

Yeah what i want is a teeth showing smile because thats what i naturally do and it looks disgusting
The jaw stretching the mouth thing is something i never thought of and i think makes sense
I might need a commisuroplasty tho along with a palate procedure to be comfortable with my smile fully

 

[tristanbongo]

What do i do? I dont think MSE is possible at my age, 18.5.
Do surgical palate widening procedures also fuck up your ESR? I only want a big smile, my face is already wide enough
What should i do? Sarpe? Marpe? Something else?

havent really read it, but ive seen john mew talk about adult expansion being possible

 

[Angutoid]

havent really read it, but ive seen john mew talk about adult expansion being possible
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Thanks will read

 

[2marc1]

whether your smile is big or not has very little to do with your palate.

no

 

[2marc1]

What do i do? I dont think MSE is possible at my age, 18.5.
Do surgical palate widening procedures also fuck up your ESR? I only want a big smile, my face is already wide enough
What should i do? Sarpe? Marpe? Something else?

get mse, no think, wont fuck your esr

 

[Angutoid]

get mse, no think, wont fuck your esr

I just remembered that when i consulted with an ortho back then, looking at my x rays they said my skull bones (and every bone in my body) are fused, i think my chances with non surgical widening is non existent

 

[moze]

Mse will fuck the symmetry do sarpe or fme

 

[2marc1]

I just remembered that when i consulted with an ortho back then, looking at my x rays they said my skull bones (and every bone in my body) are fused, i think my chances with non surgical widening is non existent

marpe has a big chance of breaking your suture, if it doesnt you will need sarpe

 

[Angutoid]

Mse will fuck the symmetry do sarpe or fme

marpe has a big chance of breaking your suture, if it doesnt you will need sarpe

Will those fuck around with the overall face as much? If my maxilla gets any wider im done for

 

[2marc1]

Will those fuck around with the overall face as much? If my maxilla gets any wider im done for

no they wont...... just watch before and afters, i would recommend you doing your own research, or asking an ortho......

 

[Angutoid]

no they wont...... just watch before and afters, i would recommend you doing your own research, or asking an ortho......

Thank you joey

 

[Angutoid]

idk how you could get a wider smile without MSE,
MSE or death tbh

maybe MSE could still work @ 18,5. Go to a ortho.

how ?

sorry lestoa i didnt see your response i was on phone
i remembered that ortho told me my bones are already fused so i think i should look into the surgical path to widen my palate and i will need to widen my mouth also with commisuroplasty probably...

 

[lestoa]

sorry lestoa i didnt see your response i was on phone

nigger why do you write like a cutie patootie

i remembered that ortho told me my bones are already fused so i think i should look into the surgical path to widen my palate and i will need to widen my mouth also with commisuroplasty probably...

how much is that going to cost ?

 

[Angutoid]

nigger why do you write like a cutie patootie

how much is that going to cost ?

idk yet
because im a cutie patootie

 

[lucas_]

I'd say just cut your mouth wider like joker

 

[sensu]

they're not always related.

my palate is child sized, my smile is still pretty wide because my jaw isn't actually narrow.

doesn't a small palate usually correlate to a small jaw?

 

[wat]

I think he wants wider teeth, like he wants a 8-10 teeth smile

when you say 8-10 do you mean 8-10 on the top row? or in total like top and bottom