i was wrong back is probably one of the most aesthetic body part

[StuffedFrog]

i mainly skipped back and only did dead lifts thinking it would be allright
i have good natural shoulders
if i developed my back i would be a mogger right now

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

Time to do some rows and pull-ups I guess

 

[Moggie]

taper is important but zyzz had bad back relative to how roided he was but giga traps still made him look aesthetic

Just do a trillion shrugs theory

 

[StuffedFrog]

taper is important but zyzz had bad back relative to how roided he was but giga traps still made him look aesthetic

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Just do a trillion shrugs theory

thats a terrible idea

 

[StuffedFrog]

Time to do some rows and pull-ups I guess

doing lat pull downs
dumbell row and seated rows

 

[Deleted member 18361]

face is the most aesthetic body part

 

[Alexanderr]

Back to women is like what ass is to men.

 

[StuffedFrog]

face is the most aesthetic body part

ok should i not workout then and just rot till my bimax

 

[Moggie]

thats a terrible idea

It wasnt an idea but a counter example of course focussing traps and neglecting back is bad, just showing that the back is not make or break for looking good body wise. Abs, adonis belt and chest, shoulders, forearms, delts, biceps, along with neck are more important but no part should be neglected so basically everything theory.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

ok should i not workout then and just rot till my bimax

whats the pt in working out if you’re just gonna lose all ur muscle during recovery?

 

[StuffedFrog]

whats the pt in working out if you’re just gonna lose all ur muscle during recovery?

muscle memory is a thing
you can still train anyways as well
you get a body plus face halo

 

[AscendingHero]

Back to women is like what ass is to men.

Nah I would say leaness, vascularity and abs/adonis belt is like what ass is to men.

Trust me on this one

@Prettyboy

 

[StuffedFrog]

It wasnt an idea but a counter example of course focussing traps and neglecting back is bad, just showing that the back is not make or break for looking good body wise. Abs, adonis belt and chest, shoulders, forearms, delts, biceps, along with neck are more important but no part should be neglected so basically everything theory.

because im not on roids

 

[StuffedFrog]

Nah I would say leaness, vascularity and abs/adonis belt is like what ass is to men.

Trust me on this one

@Prettyboy

i get my v taper and my arms in place and i generally bulk up and i would be a aesthetic god amongst man

 

[Moggie]

because im not on roids

Good, roids are long term bad, again though roids did give zyzz his traps as their is a theory this area responds to steriods much more than other muscle groups, roids are not needed for a ffmi upto 23 - 24 which is pretty damn muscular and lean. Just takes longer and have to be more careful that is all. Roids do not contradict the just everything theory just have a balanced push pull legs routine with cardio and a daily ab circuit.

 

[Moggie]

Nah I would say leaness, vascularity and abs/adonis belt is like what ass is to men.

Yes this is why women go crazy for vascular forearms.

 

[StuffedFrog]

Good, roids are long term bad, again though roids did give zyzz his traps as their is a theory this area responds to steriods much more than other muscle groups, roids are not needed for a ffmi upto 23 - 24 which is pretty damn muscular and lean. Just takes longer and have to be more careful that is all. Roids do not contradict the just everything theory just have a balanced push pull legs routine with cardio and a daily ab circuit.

gonna go hard on back till i aquire the v taper of the gods

 

[Moggie]

gonna go hard on back till i aquire the v taper of the gods

aight, mirin.

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

A well developed back is very aesthetic, IMO.

A thick back will make you look a lot bigger from the side:

 

[JawMogger]

i mainly skipped back and only did dead lifts thinking it would be allright
i have good natural shoulders
if i developed my back i would be a mogger right now

Spam lat pulldown to get a nice wide back. Combine this with lateral raises + cutting and you'll get ideal V taper

 

[StuffedFrog]

Spam lat pulldown to get a nice wide back. Combine this with lateral raises + cutting and you'll get ideal V taper

i do lat pull down 3 times a week i believe rep range is 12, 12 , 10 , 8 is this enough

 

[JawMogger]

i do lat pull down 3 times a week i believe rep range is 12, 12 , 10 , 8 is this enough

Yeah that's good. But if you want to add more, at end of workout you can reduce weight 50% and go till failure

 

[StuffedFrog]

Yeah that's good. But if you want to add more, at end of workout you can reduce weight 50% and go till failure

you tried this what are your results

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

Spam lat pulldown to get a nice wide back. Combine this with lateral raises + cutting and you'll get ideal V taper

i do lat pull down 3 times a week i believe rep range is 12, 12 , 10 , 8 is this enough

For a good V-taper, you need some exercises that target the lower lats, like deadlifts or rows pulled to the lower abdomen. Lat pulldowns and pull ups target your upper lats, which will give you a disproportionate look if you don't train your lower lats in proportion.

 

[StuffedFrog]

For a good V-taper, you need some exercises that target the lower lats, like deadlifts or rows pulled to the lower abdomen. Lat pulldowns and pull ups target your upper lats, which will give you a disproportionate look if you don't train your lower lats in proportion.

i do deadlifts we good there i need upper lats

 

[JawMogger]

you tried this what are your results

My upper back got pretty wide within a few months

 

[StuffedFrog]

My upper back got pretty wide within a few months

how many times you be doing lat pull downs how many days sets and reps?

 

[nastynas]

ofc it is. this forum is so retarded when it comes to lifting type of things saying arms are more important or some bs.

you can legit find tons of pictures from tumblr era etc where girls used post pictures of guy's backs and go crazy over it.

shoulder area and back is most important bodyparts and funnily enough you will develop your arms anyway if you strive to get a good back and shoulders and throw in some arm work anyway. you will find tons of ppl with good backs having good arms automatically, the reverse is almost never true and even if it happens, it looks like absolute shit.

 

[FootLongDong]

Train your lats they make your arms look bigger

Im speaking from experience

 

[StuffedFrog]

Train your lats they make your arms look bigger

Im speaking from experience

how does that work

 

[FootLongDong]

how does that work

My lat is so developed that it pushes my triceps out.
Hard to explain, trust me it’s worth it

 

[kalefartbomb]

I stopped doing deadlifts like 10 years ago. If you care about looksmaxing only they are pointless and only increase injury risk and recovery demands between workouts.

The king of back exercises is the pullup. Good accessories are shrugs and rows. For pullups you don't need to add weight. The exercise can be made plenty difficult just with adjustments to form and if it gets really easy you can switch to one arm pullups. You can change up grip styles each set to hit slightly different parts of the arm and back.

 

[StuffedFrog]

I stopped doing deadlifts like 10 years ago. If you care about looksmaxing only they are pointless and only increase injury risk and recovery demands between workouts.

The king of back exercises is the pullup. Good accessories are shrugs and rows. For pullups you don't need to add weight. The exercise can be made plenty difficult just with adjustments to form and if it gets really easy you can switch to one arm pullups. You can change up grip styles each set to hit slightly different parts of the arm and back.

still gonna do deadlifts though

 

[Prettyboy]

I stopped doing deadlifts like 10 years ago. If you care about looksmaxing only they are pointless and only increase injury risk and recovery demands between workouts.

The king of back exercises is the pullup. Good accessories are shrugs and rows. For pullups you don't need to add weight. The exercise can be made plenty difficult just with adjustments to form and if it gets really easy you can switch to one arm pullups. You can change up grip styles each set to hit slightly different parts of the arm and back.

Deadlifts are a way overrated exercise, they doesn't bring near the same amount of benefits as much as they fatigue the central nervous system

 

[StuffedFrog]

Deadlifts are a way overrated exercise, they doesn't bring near the same amount of benefits as much as they fatigue the central nervous system

i just want a big deadlift im still in my powerlifting roots and i dont think i can escape it jfl at the 30 year olds who cant deadlift past 405

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

i do deadlifts we good there i need upper lats

Deadlifts are not a great hypertrophy movement, because they're hard to do at high volume.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Fucking gym copers, dude if you want to get laid using physique just roid and nichemax, your “naturally good shoulders” will do nothing for your real SMV.

 

[StuffedFrog]

Fucking gym copers, dude if you want to get laid using physique just roid and nichemax, your “naturally good shoulders” will do nothing for your real SMV.

should i just rot till i get my bimax then

 

[LightSkinNoob]

should i just rot till i get my bimax then

Depends what women you want to get, a body like vinnie hacker is the most you should go for, anymore and your restricting yourself to a niche.

 

[StuffedFrog]

Depends what women you want to get, a body like vinnie hacker is the most you should go for, anymore and your restricting yourself to a niche.

jfl should have never responded to your ass

 

[LightSkinNoob]

jfl should have never responded to your ass

I’m helping you poor coping gymcel

 

[StuffedFrog]

I’m helping you poor coping gymcel

vinnie hacker the guy who goes and trains at zoo culture the gym with probably the most fitness influencers
also who tf wants to look like vinnie hackerman