I will buy some dutasteride and some aromasin

[Deleted member 4362]

Then I will inject 500mg of test e a week + 250 of deca

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I will not cycle dbol on 1st go.

I just hate that I have to gymcel what a load of bs. Gym is for losers, I might have to find a way around this.

 

[Deleted member 4362]

@Thomas DOM do you notice any muscle increase since you do not gymcel?

 

[Deleted member 18301]

Did you do a testo test first? How is your dht level, cycle dbol gl gl

 

[Deleted member 20652]

@Thomas DOM do you notice any muscle increase since you do not gymcel?

Yeah it increase my arm size . I do some bicep curls with dumbell at home though sometimes

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Dutasteride don't work with deca

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Did you do a testo test first? How is your dht level, cycle dbol gl gl

I haven’t cycled before bro, idk my dht level but I can grow facial hair + voice is not feminine.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Deca is hair safe anyway. You can just do testosterone 500 + deca 300

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Dutasteride don't work with deca

What to do about hair loss? Fin, or just TestE + duta

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Deca does not cause hair loss

Google it bro

"Deca hair loss"

It's one of the hair safe steroids. You don't need dutasteride for deca

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Deca is hair safe anyway. You can just do testosterone 500 + deca 300

What about the increase in dht. Will test e not cause that. I really don’t want to bald

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Deca does not cause hair loss

Google it bro

"Deca hair loss"

It's one of the hair safe steroids. You don't need dutasteride for deca

What about enanthate

 

[Growth Plate]

It's over if you're black and need roids

Hypersensitive androgen receptors and myostatin deficiency should already carry you

 

[Deleted member 20652]

What to do about hair loss? Fin, or just TestE + duta

Do you get hair loss on 500 mg Testosterone? If yes then do dutasteride but then you can't deca

Deca is hair safe but it's not good combining it with dutasteride theres some weird thing happening then

If only test + deca then it's better

 

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I haven’t cycled before bro, idk my dht level but I can grow facial hair + voice is not feminine.

Do a testo test first, before I wanted to take also but after I saw my test results I didn’t anymore

 

[Deleted member 20652]

What about enanthate

Testosterone enanthate is good. Inject once every 3.5 days for stable levels.

In high doses it can cause hair loss in people with MPB genes

If combining test with dutasteride I think your hair is safe even on 500 mg because dutasteride removes 97 % of dht

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Do you get hair loss on 500 mg Testosterone? If yes then do dutasteride but then you can't deca

Deca is hair safe but it's not good combining it with dutasteride theres some weird thing happening then

If only test + deca then it's better

Idk yet. I haven’t started, I was going to wait till I get paid then buy an AI before I start injecting.

I doubt I need duta cause my sad has full head of hair + he’s over 50 but I will rope if I baldZ

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Nandrolone decanoate is great for bone growth. Doctors used deca 50 years ago to treat oestoroporosis

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Testosterone enanthate is good. Inject once every 3.5 days for stable levels.

In high doses it can cause hair loss in people with MPB genes

If combining test with dutasteride I think your hair is safe even on 500 mg because dutasteride removes 97 % of dht

Testosterone enanthate is good. Inject once every 3.5 days for stable levels.

In high doses it can cause hair loss in people with MPB genes

If combining test with dutasteride I think your hair is safe even on 500 mg because dutasteride removes 97 % of dht

You’re right I’ll hold off on the deca till next cycle.

I’ll just do enan + duta for now.

 

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Idk yet. I haven’t started, I was going to wait till I get paid then buy an AI before I start injecting.

I doubt I need it cause my sad has full head of hair + he’s over 50 but I will rope if I baldZ

You need AI otherwise you'll get massive acne on chest and back. Aromasin prevents that

Especially at 500 mg Testosterone I'm sure there's a lot of aromatase activity so you need aromasin to keep ESTROGEN stable

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Do a testo test first, before I wanted to take also but after I saw my test results I didn’t anymore

Also wdym after you saw the test results?

 

[Deleted member 20652]

You’re right I’ll hold off on the deca till next cycle.

I’ll just do enan + duta for now.

Testosterone and dutasteride is good combination

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Also wdym after you saw the test results?

My natural levels were 923 ng/dl. I still wanted to inject

Nothing mogs having really high Testosterone levels n Testosterone mugging everyone around you

 

[Deleted member 4362]

You need AI otherwise you'll get massive acne on chest and back. Aromasin prevents that

Especially at 500 mg Testosterone I'm sure there's a lot of aromatase activity so you need aromasin to keep ESTROGEN stable

Smfh they even sent me viagra + even cialis but no aI . The shipping tooklike 2 weeks as well jfl

 

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My natural levels were 923 ng/dl. I still wanted to inject

Nothing mogs having really high Testosterone levels n Testosterone mugging everyone around you

Idk mine but I already low inhib mog most people.

I’m also quite athletic & 188 barefoot so I think I will become a beast.

 

[Deleted member 18301]

Also wdym after you saw the test results?

I thought I was bellow the average testo level for my age but after I saw the test results it was actually the opposite so me taking testo would have been an Overkill

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Only add deca if you don't use dutasteride

If you use dutasteride then don't add deca

There's a weird thing that deca + dutasteride = hair loss but deca without dutasteride = no hair loss

I'm not sure how that works really just google "deca with finasteride" or "deca hair loss"

It's a hair safe steroid in its original form but unironically I read its not good to combine deca with fin/dut

 

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I thought I was bellow the average testo level for my age but after I saw the test results it was actually the opposite so me taking testo would have been an Overkill

Lol idgaf I’m probably above average already, I just want to MOG

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Yeah I was right . NEVER COMBINE DECA WITH FIN OR DUT

Only deca WITHOUT fin or dut is hair safe

Will Taking Deca With Finasteride Cause Hair Loss?

This article discusses whether you can use NPP or Deca with Finasteride and the best option for those who want to use Nandrolone and prevent hair loss.

moreplatesmoredates.com

 

[Deleted member 18301]

Lol idgaf I’m probably above average already, I just want to MOG

You gonna nuke ur own levels long term, the only thing u gonna nuke is your dht and hairline but gl

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Only add deca if you don't use dutasteride

If you use dutasteride then don't add deca

There's a weird thing that deca + dutasteride = hair loss but deca without dutasteride = no hair loss

I'm not sure how that works really just google "deca with finasteride" or "deca hair loss"

It's a hair safe steroid in its original form but unironically I read its not good to combine deca with fin/dut

2nd cycle I will run deca + test e.

Probably best to keep it simple for now. I also have a shit ton of dbol tablets

 

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2nd cycle I will run deca + test e.

Probably best to keep it simple for now. I also have a shit ton of dbol tablets

What do you mean by cycle bro? Like do you plan to stop injecting then take a break and then inject again?

 

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What do you mean by cycle bro? Like do you plan to stop injecting then take a break and then inject again?

No.

I have 20, 250ml testE vials so when they run out.

 

[Orc]

you can manage estrogen with low dose arimidex and use nolvadex if it's specifically gyno you're worried about.

having high estrogen isn't a bad thing, don't use AI's if you don't need them, stoopid.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

2nd cycle I will run deca + test e.

Probably best to keep it simple for now. I also have a shit ton of dbol tablets

Dbol is harsh on the hair. Dianabol is dht derivative I dont recommend oral steroids actually they both cause hair loss and liver toxic

Dutasteride can not prevent hair loss from Dianabol or any oral steroids because they don't go through 5ar , like they are already a DHT molecule they don't need to convert to dht (like Test needs) so blocking 5ar with fin or dut have absolutely zero effect on any dht derivative like dbol you will still get hair loss

 

[Deleted member 4362]

you can manage estrogen with low dose arimidex and use nolvadex if it's specifically gyno you're worried about.

having high estrogen isn't a bad thing, don't use AI's if you don't need them, stoopid.

I don’t want e2 overload if I have to stop for unforeseen reasons.I hope I don’t need AI, but idk how my body will react yet, do you think I should just drop to 250mg a week test + deca

And forget about AI + duta?

 

[Deleted member 20652]

DUTASTERIDE WILL ONLY PREVENT HAIR LOSS CAUSED BY TESTOSTERONE

NOT ANY OTHER STEROIDS. DUTASTERIDE DOES NOTHING FOR PREVENT HAIR LOSS WITH OTHER STEROIDS


Important

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Dbol is harsh on the hair. Dianabol is dht derivative I dont recommend oral steroids actually they both cause hair loss and liver toxic

Dutasteride can not prevent hair loss from Dianabol or any oral steroids because they don't go through 5ar , like they are already a DHT molecule they don't need to convert to dht (lime Test does) so blocking 5ar with fin or dut have absolutely zero effect on any dht derivative like dbol you will still get hair loss

 

[Deleted member 20652]

I don’t want e2 overload if I have to stop for unforeseen reasons.I hope I don’t need AI, but idk how my body will react yet, do you think I should just drop to 250mg a week test + deca

And forget about AI + duta?

Imo do test 500 + duta. You will get BIG

 

[Orc]

I don’t want e2 overload if I have to stop for unforeseen reasons.I hope I don’t need AI, but idk how my body will react yet, do you think I should just drop to 250mg a week test + deca

And forget about AI + duta?

high estrogen doesn't matter if you don't have sides.

the other guy mentioned aromasin, which you shouldn't use if you can manage it with arimidex because it completely nukes all of your estrogen for several days and you will feel like shit.

low estrogen is far, far worse than high estrogen.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Do you go polish gyms bro? Are there fitness24seven in Poland?

 

[Deleted member 20652]

high estrogen doesn't matter if you don't have sides.

the other guy mentioned aromasin, which you shouldn't use if you can manage it with arimidex because it completely nukes all of your estrogen for several days and you will feel like shit.

low estrogen is far, far worse than high estrogen.

He will not get low estrogen from test 500 + low dose aromasin

He will just get medium or the same kinda estrogen level he would get if he didn't use steroids. I believe that. Aromasin doesn't remove all estrogen lol

If he continue without aromasin he will get massive acne though and risk gyno

 

[Adonis]

Deca

Have fun with deca dick

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Imo do test 500 + duta. You will get BIG

Aight

Do you go polish gyms bro? Are there fitness24seven in Poland?

I’m in UK + would likely go @ truecel hours to avoid roasties (10pm-5am) 24 hour gym

high estrogen doesn't matter if you don't have sides.

the other guy mentioned aromasin, which you shouldn't use if you can manage it with arimidex because it completely nukes all of your estrogen for several days and you will feel like shit.

low estrogen is far, far worse than high estrogen.

Also I read that because arimidex is non suicide it can overload your estrogen post cycle

 

[Deleted member 20652]

500 mg Testosterone causes fairly high aromatase activity for most people

I think you should really use low dose aromasin to prevent acne, mood swings, aggression , gyno etc

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Aight

I’m in UK + would likely go @ truecel hours to avoid roasties (10pm-5am) 24 hour gym

Also I read that because arimidex is non suicide it can overload your estrogen post cycle

Aromasin is a suicide AI. It destroys the aromatase enzyme

Other AI don't destroy the enzyme. They only block estrogen receptors from releasing esteogen

Aromasin is the best one bro. I'm about to take some aromasin right now cheers

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Why cycle bro? Just do test for life but use a HcG to maintain normal fertility and use dutasteride to keep hair safe

 

[Deleted member 4362]

high estrogen doesn't matter if you don't have sides.

the other guy mentioned aromasin, which you shouldn't use if you can manage it with arimidex because it completely nukes all of your estrogen for several days and you will feel like shit.

low estrogen is far, far worse than high estrogen.

Do u think I would be good with no AI

and 250mg of test + deca a week? Or I should 500mg of test + 250 deca with low dose AI if needed?

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Why cycle bro? Just do test for life but use a HcG to maintain normal fertility and use dutasteride to keep hair safe

By cycle I’m just referring to 12 week period which usually what they ship enough for & when I would consider something new.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Do you do Test while living at home with parents? How do you keep it low key n prevent them from finding the vials?