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Im bored and I recently had the epiphany that I have never lost a Ronaldo vs Messi debate so, title. You propose the argument and I'll own your ass

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7 game tournament doesn't determine the better player Ronaldo's had better wc games than messis campaign over the years, watch the Netherlands game and tell me that shit referee wasn't in favor of arg from the beginning, overall world cup is a team tournament and Portugal is a horrible football nation, Ronaldo put them on the map 👍🏻
 
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7 game tournament doesn't determine the better player Ronaldo's had better wc games than messis campaign over the years, watch the Netherlands game and tell me that shit referee wasn't in favor of arg from the beginning, overall world cup is a team tournament and Portugal is a horrible football nation, Ronaldo put them on the map 👍🏻
Name me any argentinian player that came close to messi’s performance while you can argue ronaldo wasnt even the 2nd best in his team
 
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U can not possibly argue for goals when Ronaldo currently has the most goals oat, and most international goals oat while playing for a shit nation
The point is that Ronaldo ha splayed for longer. I am not questioning his longevity he is the best at that. But in the same league there was never a match.
 
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Madrid won because ref allowed alot of offsides and not giving alot of cards
 
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The point is that Ronaldo ha splayed for longer. I am not questioning his longevity he is the best at that. But in the same league there was never a match.
Barça's game was always more active than Madrid's; in a league dominated by both, it was obvious they would have better numbers. That's how Cruyff's philosophy works.
 
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G/a is a nigger stat, again Ronaldo has the most goals oat

He's coping dw, Madrid offside gimmick in 2025
"Your honour, I choose the statistics as best, I am clearly not biased"
 
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If you exclude Ramos Madrid players don't get rd cards during the past decade
 
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Barça's game was always more active than Madrid's; in a league dominated by both, it was obvious they would have better numbers. That's how Cruyff's philosophy works.
Thats not Messi's problem bud. And clearly that didnt go well in Champions League as evidenced by Ronaldo's stats. CL is the tourney where CR mogs Messi to death but individual stats wise you can argue teams all you want, Ronaldo was a hot commodity and could have gotten a good team. Thats his problem
 
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Thats not Messi's problem bud. And clearly that didnt go well in Champions League as evidenced by Ronaldo's stats. CL is the tourney where CR mogs Messi to death but individual stats wise you can argue teams all you want, Ronaldo was a hot commodity and could have gotten a good team. Thats his problem
And that proves: 1. Madrid's competitiveness in European leagues. 2. Messi excelled, scoring goals against Valladolid and Eibar.
 
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No I'm not coping g/a is not a serious stat, it didn't exist before Ronaldo started mogging messis goal stats to death let alone the fact that it makes no sense.
Ronaldo was a hot commodity and could have gotten a good team.
Yes let's praise Messi for taking the easy way and getting carried by dinho, Suarez, and Neymar and shit on Ronaldo for rebuilding a whole club out of a banter era
 
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And that proves: 1. Madrid's competitiveness in European leagues. 2. Massi excelled, scoring goals against Valladolid and Eibar.
1. Whenever Ronaldo and Messi met in El Clasicos, Messi had 99 minutes per goal contribution, while Ronaldo had 134. Ronaldo had a better minute per goal stat though. And this is across all competitions not just League. Muh Messi scores against only lower teams

2. Ronaldo has most goals

Messi has the most G/A.

Inb4 "nigger stat" by a nigger fan
 
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Im bored and I recently had the epiphany that I have never lost a Ronaldo vs Messi debate so, title. You propose the argument and I'll own your ass

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No I'm not coping g/a is not a serious stat

Both players are wingers. Its not like they are defenders or goalkeepers or midfielders.

If this was Modric vs Iniesta (just an example) I would understand why its not applicable for measuring their worth but for wingers how the hell else do you measure it ?


Here is their h2h in El Clasicos across all competitions
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Im bored and I recently had the epiphany that I have never lost a Ronaldo vs Messi debate so, title. You propose the argument and I'll own your ass

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1. Whenever Ronaldo and Messi met in El Clasicos, Messi had 99 minutes per goal contribution, while Ronaldo had 134. Ronaldo had a better minute per goal stat though. And this is across all competitions not just League. Muh Messi scores against only lower teams

2. Ronaldo has most goals

Messi has the most G/A.

Inb4 "nigger stat" by a nigger fan
Most of those goals were in Guardiola's super Barça.

Yes, a player who plays as a false 9, attacking midfielder, or second striker has more assists than a player who has been a pure 9 since 2018 and a free 9 since 2014. And Cristiano has more assists than players like Xavi and Iniesta.
 
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Most of those goals were in Guardiola's super Barça.

Yes, a player who plays as a false 9, attacking midfielder, or second striker has more assists than a player who has been a pure 9 since 2018 and a free 9 since 2014. And Cristiano has more assists than players like Xavi and Iniesta.
What stopped Ronaldo from joining a super team himself ? Its not like he was undesired.
 
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Competitiveness. But what does that have to do with it?
So you think a guy who wants to win win win would purposefully choose to reject a superteam if he got a chance which he definitely would courtesy of being a best of the best candidate ?
 
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So you think a guy who wants to win win win would purposefully choose to reject a superteam if he got a chance which he definitely would courtesy of being a best of the best candidate ?
He turned them down because why would he join an already established and winning project? They say there's nothing more bitter than a guaranteed victory. And it already happened with Neymar, he never got the recognition he deserved because Messi was La Masia made.
 
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If Ronaldo wss part of a weaker team as compared to Messi, it would make sense that he would get a higher share of MOTM because of

1. Being a part of a weaker team means your own teammates wont be contenders consistently when you win matches

2. Highest numbers of Goals and Goals per minute in all time stats which means he is the favorite 8-9/10 when they win which they did a lot.

Ronaldo MOTM all time = 176

Messi all time MOTM = 395
 
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He turned them down because why would he join an already established and winning project? They say there's nothing more bitter than a guaranteed victory. And it already happened with Neymar, he never got the recognition he deserved because Messi was La Masia made.
I agree with this logic but again you cant blame Messi for this. It is on Real Madrid to build their teams to be the best. They certainly had the resources and reputation to become the best.
 
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I agree with this logic but again you cant blame Messi for this. It is on Real Madrid to build their teams to be the best. They certainly had the resources and reputation to become the best.
I'm not blaming Messi; he played his best, and that's it. I'm just putting the numbers into context. Besides, Real Madrid was a better team than Barça throughout the new millennium, except for the first decade. The only thing that kept them competitive after Guardiola's departure was probably the best trio in the history of football since Brazil in the 1970s.
 
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Ronaldo relys on good midfielder
Messi and Ronaldo plays different position
 
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I'm not blaming Messi; he played his best, and that's it. I'm just putting the numbers into context. Besides, Real Madrid was a better team than Barça throughout the new millennium, except for the first decade. The only thing that kept them competitive after Guardiola's departure was probably the best trio in the history of football since Brazil in the 1970s.
He was the best in the trio. Ronaldo may be unlucky but ultimately what if dont matter. I cant argue what if Ronaldo was in a Superteam which didnt happen, not compared to Barca
 

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