I WILL DESTROY EVERY SINGLE MESSI FAN WHO REPLIES TO THIS THREAD (footycels gtfih)

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Versatility?:feelshaha: in what way? Messi could both run a game and score, Ronaldo couldn't. He would just score after ghosting
Versatility would refer to headers, volleys, long range, free kicks, acrobatic, and
bicycle kicks, which Ronaldo is by far better at
"Longevity" = refusing to retire when past it
This makes no sense. it's like me saying Messi has no longevity because he currently plays for the MLS :lul:

Ronaldo is currently the oldest player to score a hattrick at the wc, scored 100 goals for juve at around the same time Messi was scoring 6 league goals for psg, dropping 60+ goals for 4 seasons straight (2011-2014), having 300 goals at 28 vs having more than double that amount by 38 (800+), Ronaldo was 37 scoring hattricks vs Spurs my nigga!! When was the last time Messi even scored a brace lmao
Ronaldo rebuilt a dying Madrid at the PEAK of its banter era and had one of his best individual seasons oat in 09/10, while Messi joined a superteam sponsored by peps genius and called it a day, messi has achieved NOTHING outside of barca. Ronaldo is a legend at 3 different t5 league clubs with over 100+ goals for each team, it's not even close man
Better internationally?
Again you're not reading what I'm saying because EVERYONE acknowledges that Messi had a better career, but Ronaldo is BY FAR the better international player

Messi plays for a nation that has already won the world cup 3 times, he had no excuse yet his international career up until 2021 was a meme. Ronaldo outscores him to DEATH internationally, Ronaldo carried Portugal to every single wc/euro qualification they've had. He put their country on the map it's not even a debate.
Haha. Better at scoring goals in European qualifying against farmers like Andorra, Liechtenstein and the Faroe islands
Are you retarded? Do you think Argentina plays against France and Spain all day or something? Argentina has had arguably better chances at statpadding than Portugal considering they play against malnourished Latinos all day yet Ronaldo still outscored him lmfao
Abilities overall:feelshaha: same applies. Messi better goalscorer, assister, playmaker, dribbler
Do you watch football from ig reels nigga? Ability = dribbling and flashy skills apparently lmao. Messi is NOT a better goalscorer I've already debunked you on this 500 times but anyway,

Messis aerial ability is fucking horrible, so let's start with that, Ronaldo mogs him in that as well as off the ball movement and positioning, Messi is so one dimensional when it comes to abilities but of course abilities to you are just flashy looking dribbles :lul:
Defending? What are u even on blud
Yes? Since you love stats so much here's something to jerk off to

Clearances~🇵🇹347>6
Clearances per 90~🇵🇹0.65>0.01
Blocked Shots~🇵🇹37>8
Crosses Blocked~🇵🇹13>1
Aerial Duels~🇵🇹737>115
Slide tackling~🇵🇹
Stand Tackling~🇵🇹
Endurance~🇵🇹
Clearing~🇵🇹
Blocking~🇵🇹
Physicality~🇵🇹
Strength~🇵🇹
Aggression~🇵🇹
Speed~🇵🇹
Stamina~🇵🇹
Height~ 🇵🇹
Jumping~🇵🇹

Again, by far a better defender, not even a debate


Completeness:feelshaha: same applies
Yes :lul: most complete goalscorer oat if you care about diverse goalscoring ability and their versatility

You're just throwing out words. This thread brutally failed but as an Indian Ronaldo fan, you can't accept defeat
Lastly, stop projecting on me faggot I'm white you literally type like a stinky indian I'd find on ig reels saying messis better cause he dribbles more :lul:
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Versatility would refer to headers, volleys, long range, free kicks, acrobatic, and
bicycle kicks, which Ronaldo is by far better at

This makes no sense. it's like me saying Messi has no longevity because he currently plays for the MLS :lul:

Ronaldo is currently the oldest player to score a hattrick at the wc, scored 100 goals for juve at around the same time Messi was scoring 6 league goals for psg, dropping 60+ goals for 4 seasons straight (2011-2014), having 300 goals at 28 vs having more than double that amount by 38 (800+), Ronaldo was 37 scoring hattricks vs Spurs my nigga!! When was the last time Messi even scored a brace lmao

Ronaldo rebuilt a dying Madrid at the PEAK of its banter era and had one of his best individual seasons oat in 09/10, while Messi joined a superteam sponsored by peps genius and called it a day, messi has achieved NOTHING outside of barca. Ronaldo is a legend at 3 different t5 league clubs with over 100+ goals for each team, it's not even close man

Again you're not reading what I'm saying because EVERYONE acknowledges that Messi had a better career, but Ronaldo is BY FAR the better international player

Messi plays for a nation that has already won the world cup 3 times, he had no excuse yet his international career up until 2021 was a meme. Ronaldo outscores him to DEATH internationally, Ronaldo carried Portugal to every single wc/euro qualification they've had. He put their country on the map it's not even a debate.

Are you retarded? Do you think Argentina plays against France and Spain all day or something? Argentina has had arguably better chances at statpadding than Portugal considering they play against malnourished Latinos all day yet Ronaldo still outscored him lmfao

Do you watch football from ig reels nigga? Ability = dribbling and flashy skills apparently lmao. Messi is NOT a better goalscorer I've already debunked you on this 500 times but anyway,

Messis aerial ability is fucking horrible, so let's start with that, Ronaldo mogs him in that as well as off the ball movement and positioning, Messi is so one dimensional when it comes to abilities but of course abilities to you are just flashy looking dribbles :lul:

Yes? Since you love stats so much here's something to jerk off to

Clearances~🇵🇹347>6
Clearances per 90~🇵🇹0.65>0.01
Blocked Shots~🇵🇹37>8
Crosses Blocked~🇵🇹13>1
Aerial Duels~🇵🇹737>115
Slide tackling~🇵🇹
Stand Tackling~🇵🇹
Endurance~🇵🇹
Clearing~🇵🇹
Blocking~🇵🇹
Physicality~🇵🇹
Strength~🇵🇹
Aggression~🇵🇹
Speed~🇵🇹
Stamina~🇵🇹
Height~ 🇵🇹
Jumping~🇵🇹

Again, by far a better defender, not even a debate



Yes :lul: most complete goalscorer oat if you care about diverse goalscoring ability and their versatility


Lastly, stop projecting on me faggot I'm white you literally type like a stinky indian I'd find on ig reels saying messis better cause he dribbles more :lul:
@ascension @loyolaxavvierretard @wsada @itzyaboyJJ @Bitterschön @FunkyFlamingo @✧YN✧ @acm

You're going to short-circuit his tiny brain with this many facts and logic
 
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You're going to short-circuit his tiny brain with this many facts and logic
I doubt hes gonna read through it and even if he does hes gonna keep repeating the same shit, he seriously thinks Messi is a better goalscorer lmao
 
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Versatility would refer to headers, volleys, long range, free kicks, acrobatic, and
bicycle kicks, which Ronaldo is by far better at

This makes no sense. it's like me saying Messi has no longevity because he currently plays for the MLS :lul:

Ronaldo is currently the oldest player to score a hattrick at the wc, scored 100 goals for juve at around the same time Messi was scoring 6 league goals for psg, dropping 60+ goals for 4 seasons straight (2011-2014), having 300 goals at 28 vs having more than double that amount by 38 (800+), Ronaldo was 37 scoring hattricks vs Spurs my nigga!! When was the last time Messi even scored a brace lmao

Ronaldo rebuilt a dying Madrid at the PEAK of its banter era and had one of his best individual seasons oat in 09/10, while Messi joined a superteam sponsored by peps genius and called it a day, messi has achieved NOTHING outside of barca. Ronaldo is a legend at 3 different t5 league clubs with over 100+ goals for each team, it's not even close man

Again you're not reading what I'm saying because EVERYONE acknowledges that Messi had a better career, but Ronaldo is BY FAR the better international player

Messi plays for a nation that has already won the world cup 3 times, he had no excuse yet his international career up until 2021 was a meme. Ronaldo outscores him to DEATH internationally, Ronaldo carried Portugal to every single wc/euro qualification they've had. He put their country on the map it's not even a debate.

Are you retarded? Do you think Argentina plays against France and Spain all day or something? Argentina has had arguably better chances at statpadding than Portugal considering they play against malnourished Latinos all day yet Ronaldo still outscored him lmfao

Do you watch football from ig reels nigga? Ability = dribbling and flashy skills apparently lmao. Messi is NOT a better goalscorer I've already debunked you on this 500 times but anyway,

Messis aerial ability is fucking horrible, so let's start with that, Ronaldo mogs him in that as well as off the ball movement and positioning, Messi is so one dimensional when it comes to abilities but of course abilities to you are just flashy looking dribbles :lul:

Yes? Since you love stats so much here's something to jerk off to

Clearances~🇵🇹347>6
Clearances per 90~🇵🇹0.65>0.01
Blocked Shots~🇵🇹37>8
Crosses Blocked~🇵🇹13>1
Aerial Duels~🇵🇹737>115
Slide tackling~🇵🇹
Stand Tackling~🇵🇹
Endurance~🇵🇹
Clearing~🇵🇹
Blocking~🇵🇹
Physicality~🇵🇹
Strength~🇵🇹
Aggression~🇵🇹
Speed~🇵🇹
Stamina~🇵🇹
Height~ 🇵🇹
Jumping~🇵🇹

Again, by far a better defender, not even a debate



Yes :lul: most complete goalscorer oat if you care about diverse goalscoring ability and their versatility


Lastly, stop projecting on me faggot I'm white you literally type like a stinky indian I'd find on ig reels saying messis better cause he dribbles more :lul:
@ascension @loyolaxavvierretard @wsada @itzyaboyJJ @Bitterschön @FunkyFlamingo @✧YN✧ @acm
Dnr past the first part where you mentioned bicycle kicks. 1! One bicycle kick, that's it. (Messi also scored one btw). And Ronaldo got mogged by bales bicycle kick in the final.

Volleys??
Long range goals... Messi more goals outside the box. Freekicks... Messi more freekicks. The irony is you've moved past any sort of logical debate and are now talking about "types" of goals, and cherry picking examples

Truly a brootal way to end my reading of this thread

Oh yeah, and don't tag people in this shit post of yours. 347 clearances vs 6? Where do you pull these retarded fake stats from??

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You're going to short-circuit his tiny brain with this many facts and logic
You didn't even read and comprehend just how pathetic that comment was. Just got tagged and thought "hey, another Indian Ronaldo fan! There's strength in numbers!"

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Ignored

I did read it, unlike you, whos brain short circuited and smoke started blowing from your ears as soon as you saw a post longer than one sentence

+ you can't ignore me, I know you love me secretly :feelsez:
 
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Again, by far a better defender, not even a debate
Im pretty sure messi has better defensive stats and in the first place why the fuck would you bring up defending
 
Im pretty sure messi has better defensive stats and in the first place why the fuck would you bring up defending
No he doesn't you retard I already debunked this by listing the stats you clearly can't read

Ur the same guy who said Madrid was a better superteam than peps barca btw don't talk to me you utter subhuman you know nothing of this sport and have never touched a football in your life
 
Im bored and I recently had the epiphany that I have never lost a Ronaldo vs Messi debate so, title. You propose the argument and I'll own your ass

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What's the point of nitpicking random stats (some of the stats you're showing are literally in Ronaldo's favor too) when Ronaldo overall has better defending stats? You don't watch this sport
i dont wanna sound mean but you might be dyslexic because these are all the primary defending stats one can have, which messi takes the cake for most. I show also showed ronaldos better stats because im open minded and can try to argue with logic and at least slightly unbiased like you. You claim that ronaldo has better defensive stats but these prove otherwise, further proving my point that your reading comprehension isnt good.
 
i dont wanna sound mean but you might be dyslexic because these are all the primary defending stats one can have, which messi takes the cake for most. I show also showed ronaldos better stats because im open minded and can try to argue with logic and at least slightly unbiased like you. You claim that ronaldo has better defensive stats but these prove otherwise, further proving my point that your reading comprehension isnt good.
There is more to defending than what you've shown, again you're clearly a stats merchant who watches football out of his ass evident by you saying that Madrid had it easier than peps barca, so go on and cherish this moment where I take you seriously for a second and let's run down some of these stats:

Tackles 🇦🇷365>201
Tackles per 90 🇦🇷0.65>0.38
Interceptions 🇦🇷198>159
Interceptions per 90 🇦🇷0.35>0.30
Clearances 🇵🇹347>6 💀
Clearances per 90 🇵🇹0.65>0.01💀
Blocked Shots 🇵🇹37>8 💀
Blocked shots per 90 🇵🇹0.07>0.01 💀
Passes Blocked 🇦🇷139>93
Passes blocked per 90~🇦🇷0.25>0.17
Crosses Blocked 🇵🇹13>1💀
Crosses Blocked per 90 🇵🇹0.02>0.00
Pressing 🇦🇷1536>1161
Pressing per 90 🇦🇷10.04>7.94
Aerial Duels 🇵🇹737>115💀
Aerial Duels per 90 🇵🇹1.38>0.20😭
Slide tackling 🇵🇹
Stand Tackling 🇵🇹
Intercepting 🇦🇷
Pressing 🇦🇷
Man Marking 🇦🇷
Physicality 🇵🇹
Strength 🇵🇹
Aggression 🇵🇹
Speed 🇵🇹
Stamina 🇵🇹
Strategy 🇦🇷
Reflexes 🇦🇷
Endurance 🇵🇹

There is WAY more to defending than the stats you've shown, though given your previous claims I heavily doubt you even watch this sport so this might be hard to grasp. Defending is 70% physical attributes like speed strength and height which both go in Ronaldo's favor so I'm not sure why you even think Messi would take the cake on this.

Messi fans on org are so odd I've never seen a Messi fan claim he's the better defender or goalscorer
 
its simpler than getting bogged down in the stats
you have 1 match to bet your life on against a monstruous team and your team is down, who would you choose to save the game for you and do the impossible?

Messi everytime
 
its simpler than getting bogged down in the stats
you have 1 match to bet your life on against a monstruous team and your team is down, who would you choose to save the game for you and do the impossible?

Messi everytime
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Messi is the king of being carried throughout his entire career. Got carried by Martinez and di maria throughout his entire international career, got carried by Suarez and Neymar during his prime, and got carried by xavi and iniesta as a youngster. Not even, his career has been entirely carried by peps genius. His club stats the moment he left barca only prove my point further. 20250530 170827
Ronaldo practically CARRIED Madrid throughout their major campaigns, Ronaldo is the king of comebacks and he's the reason Madrid gets that title. Unlike Messi, he left prime united and joined a dying club at the height of its banter era as a youngster and proceeded to drop one of his best individual seasons in 09/10 despite Madrid going trophyless. Ronaldo is the most complete player of all time and Messi will always be a comfort zone merchant.
 
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Messi is the king of being carried throughout his entire career. Got carried by Martinez and di maria throughout his entire international career, got carried by Suarez and Neymar during his prime, and got carried by xavi and iniesta as a youngster. Not even, his career has been entirely carried by peps genius. His club stats the moment he left barca only prove my point further.View attachment 3784790
Ronaldo practically CARRIED Madrid throughout their major campaigns, Ronaldo is the king of comebacks and he's the reason Madrid gets that title. Unlike Messi, he left prime united and joined a dying club at the height of its banter era as a youngster and proceeded to drop one of his best individual seasons in 09/10 despite Madrid going trophyless. Ronaldo is the most complete player of all time and Messi will always be a comfort zone merchant.

show me ronaldo tearing through an entire defense like this in a final :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

 
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show me ronaldo tearing through an entire defense like this in a final :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Nigga did you start watching football tomorrow? "Final" it's against Bilbao you filthy grey 😭😭 Ronaldo was tearing apart prime premier league defenders

AND he was tearing apart serie a defenders at 36 playing with an aging squad himself 💀💀 niggas just be talking to talk
 

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