i will prove thumbpulling

[ropemaxxer00]

with what evidence you will be satisfied
of course thumbpulling wont make you chad, im not looking for crazy changes

Anecdotal evidence from a study that proves direct causality of what you describe

 

[ND true apollo]

pressing forwards won't help at all bro. Jordan Wood has been gatekeeping his best tutorials but this one is the best I think, you're better off just following it.

 

[deathroid990]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

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currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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You will around 8-9 months it works i started seeing my results only after a month
You'll be a chad soon keep going .
Don't stop or you might lose progress

Don't listen to people who says it doesn't work they just larp Shit

 

[mtn_dude_193]

You will around 8-9 months it works i started seeing my results only after a month
You'll be a chad soon keep going .
Don't stop or you might lose progress

Don't listen to people who says it doesn't work they just larp Shit

hope so bro, how old are you and whats your routine

 

[deathroid990]

hope so bro, how old are you and whats your routine

Currently 21
I do it 2-3 times a day no fixed timings

 

[Palan]

@mtn_dude_193 isn’t gonna prove shit and will just be sucking his dumb like a idiot

How much do you want to bet? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[tomacōck]

@mtn_dude_193 isn’t gonna prove shit and will just be sucking his dumb like a idiot

This

To that

Same age, 15.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

This
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To that
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Same age, 15.

massive improvement

 

[mtn_dude_193]

This
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To that
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Same age, 15.

i feel like your canthal tilt also improved, you seen that or is it only me?

 

[tomacōck]

i feel like your canthal tilt also improved, you seen that or is it only me?

it is likely that since maxillary expansion also causes the halves to rotate out and up, it pushes the zygomas up as well, causing a higher set medial canthus = higher canthal tilt

 

[mtn_dude_193]

it is likely that since maxillary expansion also causes the halves to rotate out and up, it pushes the zygomas up as well, causing a higher set medial canthus = higher canthal tilt

how many mms you expanded again?

 

[tomacōck]

how many mms you expanded again?

accounting for the relapse around like 1 mm jfl

 

[mtn_dude_193]

accounting for the relapse around like 1 mm jfl

whats your goal and for how long you been doing it, i think we spoke before

 

[tomacōck]

whats your goal and for how long you been doing it, i think we spoke before

we did in pms
my goal is hitting 43mm IMW (40 rn) and just look good brah
and breathing definitely, i used to spam nasal sprays to stop congestion now im sprayfree

 

[maybeleno]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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I don’t get how people still believe this everyone’s known for years it’s cope. Please don’t spread your shit.

It’s honestly just a waste of time.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

I don’t get how people still believe this everyone’s known for years it’s cope. Please don’t spread your shit.

It’s honestly just a waste of time.

time will tell

 

[Rufus045]

yeah exactly think it like marpe + headgear marpe only provides lateral i need a bit off ccw

Both thumb pulling and marpe gives cw rotation of the mandible if that’s what u mean

 

[seongtae_psl]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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View attachment 4993120

Thumbpulling is cope and there is no evidence that it does work, the thing that would most likely happen if you kept this up is that you’d be moving your teeth instead of your maxilla because teeth can be easily moved under sustained pressure. Doesn’t work that way for the maxilla because pushing with your thumbs for a few minutes a day is typically not enough force or duration to alter the fabric of your bone structure. Your best option would be to utilize an expander.

 

[chadpreetinthemakin]

Thought it was cope too, but it genuinely works. When I stop for a few weeks I relapse and regret but when I’m consistent for months I have massive improvement. I can show evidence in DMs for anyone skeptical

 

[chadpreetinthemakin]

accounting for the relapse around like 1 mm jfl

You got that change form 1 mm only???

 

[tomacōck]

You got that change form 1 mm only???

Likely not, idk currently I'm at +1.5mm and yeah

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Thought it was cope too, but it genuinely works. When I stop for a few weeks I relapse and regret but when I’m consistent for months I have massive improvement. I can show evidence in DMs for anyone skeptical

how old are you

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Thumbpulling is cope and there is no evidence that it does work, the thing that would most likely happen if you kept this up is that you’d be moving your teeth instead of your maxilla because teeth can be easily moved under sustained pressure. Doesn’t work that way for the maxilla because pushing with your thumbs for a few minutes a day is typically not enough force or duration to alter the fabric of your bone structure. Your best option would be to utilize an expander.

do you know how a expander works?

 

[rrk.psl]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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cope

 

[Thxbz]

Thumbpulling so cope bro

 

[IbalmeHponeMin]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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View attachment 4993120

Alright bro I'm also trying to proof that the earth is square

 

[mtn_dude_193]

i mean im not so sure myself but we will see

 

[sub5tochadspeedrun]

everybody calls it cope but theres just too much evidence. im gonna do it everyday for a year and measure my palate and take photos every 2 weeks.

my routine is every hour

-- 1.5 minutes up and forward at the front of the palate
-- 1.5 minute laterally back of the palate
--2.5 minutes up and forward middle of the palate

with a neck relase at then end of each.

so 16 x 5.5 = 88 minutes a day

the things im hoping to improve is

more facial width
better canthal tilt
better fwh
better zygo prominence
wider smile
wider mouth
better undereye support
a bit of ccw rotation to fix the nose


this is the current side (ignore the hyoid and neck posture will fix that)

View attachment 4993094

this is the side i wanna achieve

View attachment 4993102

currently dont even think my chin is even reccesed but the ccw is off
i pass all the lip assesments, ricketts line etc.

turned 18 2 months ago

wanting a similar transformation like jordan wood

he was 18.5 when he started

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View attachment 4993120

cope goofy ahh nose

 

[mtn_dude_193]

cope goofy ahh nose

niggas just typin shit

 

[sub5tochadspeedrun]

niggas just typin shit

chopped fuck posted yaself on org wise up mun

 

[mtn_dude_193]

chopped fuck posted yaself on org wise up mun

it doesnt matter, you are a nigger and i race mog you

 

[sub5tochadspeedrun]

it doesnt matter, you are a nigger and i race mog you

6'1 white i could kill you bud stay away from me and my presence.

 

[mtn_dude_193]

6'1 white i could kill you bud stay away from me and my presence.

im 6.4 nigga i heightmog you and i know that you aint white by the way you talk

 

[sub5tochadspeedrun]

im 6.4 nigga i heightmog you and i know that you aint white by the way you talk

white asf could kill you lil nigga

 

[iblameabror]

show me

 

[terror]

Thought it was cope too, but it genuinely works. When I stop for a few weeks I relapse and regret but when I’m consistent for months I have massive improvement. I can show evidence in DMs for anyone skeptical

let me see some evidence bro, kind of compelled to try to it for the fuck of it

 

[mtn_dude_193]

let me see some evidence bro, kind of compelled to try to it for the fuck of it

jordan wood is the best example

 

[chadpreetinthemakin]

let me see some evidence bro, kind of compelled to try to it for the fuck of it

Start a chat with me

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Start a chat with me

do you have evidence?

 

[benjaminW]

how did it go bro?

 

[Zagoon]

Jordan Wood cannot for the life of him use the same angle and posture for the after vs the before, its all fraudijg by taking the picture from a more frontal angle and tilting his head up

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Jordan Wood cannot for the life of him use the same angle and posture for the after vs the before, its all fraudijg by taking the picture from a more frontal angle and tilting his head up

there are multiple pictures from the same angle bro
and even if it wasnt the same angle facial convexity doesnt change with angles lol

 

[mtn_dude_193]

how did it go bro?

i havent been super consistent but i feel like i finally started moving it in the last week

 

[mtn_dude_193]

Jordan Wood cannot for the life of him use the same angle and posture for the after vs the before, its all fraudijg by taking the picture from a more frontal angle and tilting his head up

you can see how much more fuller the midface got angles or bf aint even doing this lol he changed his mandibular plane angle which isnt fruadable with angles by 10 degrees which is fucking craxy

 

[r4ptor]

send the results

 

[mtn_dude_193]

send the results

no results yet nigga its been 2 months and i have been really consistent for only 1 month

 

[r4ptor]

no results yet nigga its been 2 months and i have been really consistent for only 1 month

pussy liar

 

[mtn_dude_193]

pussy liar

i will post results in 6 months and we will se if its cope or not

 

[Zagoon]

View attachment 5355411View attachment 5355412 you can see how much more fuller the midface got angles or bf aint even doing this lol he changed his mandibular plane angle which isnt fruadable with angles by 10 degrees which is

View attachment 5355411View attachment 5355412 you can see how much more fuller the midface got angles or bf aint even doing this lol he changed his mandibular plane angle which isnt fruadable with angles by 10 degrees which is fucking craxy

this image also proves my point on how all he did was tilt his head up and take a picture from a more frontal angle. Are you telling me his radix grew longer from thumbpulling? No its that the angle is more from the front causing the radix to look fuller and the nasal hump to seem to have less of an impact then from looking directly from the side. Its much easier to prove if you zoom the images out as you can use things like the eyebrows and the ears as an anchor to compare the two images.

Notice in the first pic, the entire eyebrow is not visible due to the pic being taken from basically behind him yet in the second pic you can see the entire eyebrow + a little more proving the image was taken more from the front. But the major change would be he angle of the ear relative to the flat line he created to measure the mandibular plane angle. You can see easily that his head is very tilted up from the difference in the position and tilt of the ears. Not a single one of his angles changed, he just learned to fraud with posture and angles.

If you need more evidence i can show you but brother we all went through this phase and its best to just spend time on things that will make a change. Spent months thumbpulling every hour as hard as i could
and years mewing
with 0 change.

 

[EmploiceMushwashans]

Just get marpe bru