I wish I was Christian, and that god existed

[WELOVELOOKS]

I really do.

Anytime I have ever sincerely tried to talk to god I close my eyes and see a dark, empty, infinite void

I wish god would come talk to me, I wish he’d help me in my life, I wish I’d go to heaven. I don’t wanna die forever. I don’t want to leave my parents behind.

I try really hard to believe

The logical side of my brain is just too strong though and overwhelms it.

Never have I had some revelations, or god talk to me. Like does this mf just hate me or what, just doesn’t wanna talk to me for no reason when I am a person with a guilty conscious, I do feel bad about the bad things I’ve done in the past. I’m not a shitty person in my core and in my heart, yet god doesn’t wanna talk to me?

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Hello son what do you need

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Hello son what do you need

Its me gdo

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Its me gdo

God*

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Hello son what do you need

8 x 6 please

(God this is a joke please don’t smite me)

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

8 x 6 please

(God this is a joke please don’t smite me)

Good one ur spared (for now)

 

[theRetard]

god non-existence is impossible

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

god non-existance is impossible

According to mainlander we are part of god's decaying corpse

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

According to mainlander we are part of god's decaying corpse

Nietzsche called him an incel hag btw

 

[theRetard]

According to mainlander we are part of god's decaying corpse

are you talking about actual mainlander or that forum user?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

god non-existance is impossible

If he does, it’s not the Christian god. I am fully convinced of this, and I’ve looked at all the evidence at both sides. I can’t help that there is overwhelming logic that points towards there not being some benevolent being

Imo, if god does exist, it’s basically just an energetic being that is woven through the entirety of reality

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

are you talking about actual mainlander or that forum user?

The philosopher

The forum user has Bahnsen as his pfp btw

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Nah you would prolly hate if the Abrahamik god existed. All your unbelieving friends & family would be burning in hell for eternity for not glazing their god. How would u cope

 

[anxiety]

I really do.

Anytime I have ever sincerely tried to talk to god I close my eyes and see a dark, empty, infinite void

I wish god would come talk to me, I wish he’d help me in my life, I wish I’d go to heaven. I don’t wanna die forever. I don’t want to leave my parents behind.

I try really hard to believe

The logical side of my brain is just too strong though and overwhelms it.

Never have I had some revelations, or god talk to me. Like does this mf just hate me or what, just doesn’t wanna talk to me for no reason when I am a person with a guilty conscious, I do feel bad about the bad things I’ve done in the past. I’m not a shitty person in my core and in my heart, yet god doesn’t wanna talk to me?

Just start thinking that you are a part of the universe. The world was never meant to be a good place. Or a bad place. Its just is what it is, and we would never achieve the core idea of this stupid world, but you would ever be a part of it, like you always was. Even after death. Your personality is just a temporary thing. Also you got a plenty of time to have fun ahead, so use it fhe way you like. And also death is the most fair thing to exist

 

[theRetard]

The philosopher

The forum user has Bahnsen as his pfp btw

well i know nothing about his philosophy, only that he roped

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Nah you would prolly hate if the Abrahamik god existed. All your unbelieving friends & family would be burning in hell for eternity for not glazing their god. How would u cope

Yeah, that’s very hard to struggle with, idk. But if I was Christian, I’d probably tell you something like “if your moral compass is good, and you treat people empathetic and charitably you can still get into heaven regardless of what you believe”

I guess that would depend on the type of Christian though

Catholics believe that anybody pure can go to heaven

 

[theRetard]

Nah you would prolly hate if the Abrahamik god existed. All your unbelieving friends & family would be burning in hell for eternity for not glazing their god. How would u cope

do you think that Abrahamic god doesn't exist?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

do you think that Abrahamic god doesn't exist?

That’s Saturn

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Catholics believe that anybody pure can go to heaven

Pretty sure that's a minority view. Also "pure" is kinda subjective no? The idea of "pure" from Christian/Catholic standpoint is probably never committing any "major" sins (i.e fornication), so RIP to any non Christian that's not an incel

 

[King_Schnitzel]

I really do.

Anytime I have ever sincerely tried to talk to god I close my eyes and see a dark, empty, infinite void

I wish god would come talk to me, I wish he’d help me in my life, I wish I’d go to heaven. I don’t wanna die forever. I don’t want to leave my parents behind.

I try really hard to believe

The logical side of my brain is just too strong though and overwhelms it.

Never have I had some revelations, or god talk to me. Like does this mf just hate me or what, just doesn’t wanna talk to me for no reason when I am a person with a guilty conscious, I do feel bad about the bad things I’ve done in the past. I’m not a shitty person in my core and in my heart, yet god doesn’t wanna talk to me?

Water

 

[Swarthy Knight]

do you think that Abrahamic god doesn't exist?

Ofc I don't think it exists. Do you?

 

[Jesko]

I really do.

Anytime I have ever sincerely tried to talk to god I close my eyes and see a dark, empty, infinite void

I wish god would come talk to me, I wish he’d help me in my life, I wish I’d go to heaven. I don’t wanna die forever. I don’t want to leave my parents behind.

I try really hard to believe

The logical side of my brain is just too strong though and overwhelms it.

Never have I had some revelations, or god talk to me. Like does this mf just hate me or what, just doesn’t wanna talk to me for no reason when I am a person with a guilty conscious, I do feel bad about the bad things I’ve done in the past. I’m not a shitty person in my core and in my heart, yet god doesn’t wanna talk to me?

It takes years to belive with certianty

 

[theRetard]

Ofc I don't think it exists. Do you?

it's impossible for him to not exist, so ofc i think that he does

 

[Swarthy Knight]

it's impossible for him to not exist

How you figure

 

[theRetard]

How you figure

because non-existence does not exist, so because non-existence does not exist, god can't be non-existing

 

[thepathsdontremembe]

i want him to send me 10 , thick 5’2 femboys with wolfcut in my bed

 

[Swarthy Knight]

because non-existence does not exist, so because non-existence does not exist, god can't be non-existing

I can agree that there is a creator/original source. But what makes you sure that it is the Abrahamic god specifically?

 

[theRetard]

But what makes you sure that it is the Abrahamic god specifically?

because it is impossible for him to not exist, because non-existence doesn't exist

 

[Perfectiοn]

because non-existence does not exist, so because non-existence does not exist, god can't be non-existing

Non existence cannot exist but at the same time non existence is non existent? Flawed logic no?

 

[theRetard]

Non existence cannot exist but at the same time non existence is non existent? Flawed logic no?

no, it's coherent

 

[Perfectiοn]

no, it's coherent

It’s a shit argument

There’s way better arguments to be made for gods existence

 

[theRetard]

It’s a shit argument

why?

There’s way better arguments to be made for gods existence

i think they are all flawed except mine

 

[Perfectiοn]

why?

How can non existence not exist if there are many things that are non existent?

Unless you mean that the non existence of god himself cannot exist, but u said it in a general sense so that’s a shit argument.

 

[theRetard]

How can non existence not exist if there are many things that are non existent?

Unless you mean that the non existence of god himself cannot exist, but u said it in a general sense so that’s a shit argument.

there's literally no things that don't exist because non-existence does not exist because when we are trying to think about it then it already becomes anything rather nothing, so non-existence does not exist

 

[Perfectiοn]

there's literally no things that don't exist because non-existence does not exist because when we are trying to think about it then it already becomes anything rather nothing, so non-existence does not exist

I can see your argument being true if the multiverse theory were true, because in that case everything would exist so therefore maybe non existence would not exist. I don’t believe in that bullshit tho so I don’t believe that non existence cannot exist.

Simply thinking of something does not make it an existing thing.

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

i want him to send me 10 , thick 5’2 femboys with wolfcut in my bed

 

[thepathsdontremembe]

because it is impossible for him to not exist, because non-existence doesn't exist

 

[takethewhitepill]

Yeah, that’s very hard to struggle with, idk. But if I was Christian, I’d probably tell you something like “if your moral compass is good, and you treat people empathetic and charitably you can still get into heaven regardless of what you believe”

I guess that would depend on the type of Christian though

Catholics believe that anybody pure can go to heaven

Bible says otherwise. This idea of people who sin being saved is very new and untrue, but take solace in 2 things. They chose their destiny (sort of) and there is no eternal torment for them, they will go to hell and die. Remember that the punishment of sin is death.

 

[theRetard]

I can see your argument being true if the multiverse theory were true, because in that case everything would exist so therefore maybe non existence would not exist. I don’t believe in that bullshit tho so I don’t believe that non existence cannot exist.

why you don't believe that non-existence cannot exist?
so you think that non-existence exists
but it is self-refuting

Simply thinking of something does not make it an existing thing.

thought and being are the same because to be real, it must be thinkable, and for something to be thought of, it must exist in some way

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Bible says otherwise. This idea of people who sin being saved is very new and untrue, but take solace in 2 things. They chose their destiny (sort of) and there is no eternal torment for them, they will go to hell and die. Remember that the punishment of sin is death.

I know it says otherwise, which is why I don’t believe it. But that’s why I said if I was a Christian, it was hypothetical.

And I don’t think the “chose” their destiny

They just opted out of basing their entire existence on a mystery that doesn’t physically exist. I could NEVER blame someone for that if I was god.

Maybe god could give us some screenshots of heaven before we move there, I don’t move in to a home in the hood of St. Louis without at least seeing a picture, and understanding where I’m going

Not gonna base my entire life on something utterly mysterious.

 

[hypernormie]

Take a chill pill bud if there is an intelligible answer you're sure to find out at the time of your death. If there is no intelligible answer than there's no point stressing about it.

 

[Perfectiοn]

so you think that non-existence exists
but it is self-refuting

No I don’t think it exists, I was just giving an example of what kind of reality it could exist in but that’s not the reality we live in so I don’t believe it exists. But even if I were to make the argument that non existence can’t exist because of the fact that non existence doesn’t exist, that doesn’t mean that I believe in it but that it’s simply self refuting, it’s just one example of many of how it doesn’t exist.

thought and being are the same because to be real, it must be thinkable, and for something to be thought of, it must exist in some way

It can exist in a persons head sure, but does that really mean it exists? What about physical things that cannot exist because they would be contradictory, such as a circle that’s also a square. The idea can exist in a persons head but cannot exist physically so it’s non existing. And that’s just an example btw since many people talk about a “circle square” as a contradictory thing that cannot exist.

 

[takethewhitepill]

I know it says otherwise, which is why I don’t believe it. But that’s why I said if I was a Christian, it was hypothetical.

And I don’t think the “chose” their destiny

They just opted out of basing their entire existence on a mystery that doesn’t physically exist. I could NEVER blame someone for that if I was god.

Maybe god could give us some screenshots of heaven before we move there, I don’t move in to a home in the hood of St. Louis without at least seeing a picture, and understanding where I’m going

Not gonna base my entire life on something utterly mysterious.

Sure, im just telling you what the scripture says, you dont have to believe it. But i would encourage you, regardless of how you feel okn this topic it doesnt actually present a hinging issue for Christianity, and instead believe it or not on the basis of the resurrection. Thing with choosing destiny is that we are predestined for either salvation or not because God never makes a plan to save someone and has it fail. This is called the doctrine of limited atonement if you want to know more. The bible says that we all know God inherently under the new covenant, see romans 1. In fact, Paul directly addresses your views throughout romans so even as a non believer id encourage you to meditate on it. So yes, we are responsible and blameworthy for going against Him according to scripture. As for what heaven will be like, we dont know. But the thing is, its not like we really could. Its not something of this world and so we couldnt really comprehend it anyway. Regardless, I trust God enough to make a pretty good heaven, at least better than perishing. You speak of how there is mystery, which would mean a lack of evidence, so do tell: what evidence would it take to convince you of the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

 

[takethewhitepill]

why?

i think they are all flawed except mine

Sorry brother, but your argument actually is shit. Go read aquinas giving 5 arguments for a god and learn a real argument. Your whole point is like saying that 0 isnt real because how can nothing be something. Its an equivocation fallacy

 

[theRetard]

Sorry brother, but your argument actually is shit. Go read aquinas giving 5 arguments for a god and learn a real argument. Your whole point is like saying that 0 isnt real because how can nothing be something.

aquinas 5 arguments are problematic

Its an equivocation fallacy

why is that?

 

[e443]

Jesus is supposed to represent the sun btw

 

[takethewhitepill]

aquinas 5 arguments are problematic

why is that?

Tell me how they are problematic. I can almost guarantee you havent studied them or really any form of cosmological apologetics. Your argument is an equivocation fallacy because you equivocate 2 dofferent definitions of non existence. From what I have seen of you, you also dont provide the actually important evidence of the resurrection nor do you makeany argument for why an existent God would hage revealed Himself in any way (that is, you must first define your set when making a proof)

 

[theRetard]

No I don’t think it exists, I was just giving an example of what kind of reality it could exist in but that’s not the reality we live in so I don’t believe it exists. But even if I were to make the argument that non existence can’t exist because of the fact that non existence doesn’t exist, that doesn’t mean that I believe in it but that it’s simply self refuting, it’s just one example of many of how it doesn’t exist.

It can exist in a persons head sure, but does that really mean it exists? What about physical things that cannot exist because they would be contradictory, such as a circle that’s also a square. The idea can exist in a persons head but cannot exist physically so it’s non existing. And that’s just an example btw since many people talk about a “circle square” as a contradictory thing that cannot exist.

well it comes down if abstractions are real. if they are not, then if you say something what is real or not is also not-real because reality is an abstract concept, but it is contradictory and so abstracts are real.. and square circle is self-refuting linguistic concept, because you can't imagine square circle

 

[Perfectiοn]

well it comes down if abstractions are real. if they are not, then if you say something what is real or not is also not-real because reality is an abstract concept, but it is contradictory and so abstracts are real.. and square circle is self-refuting linguistic concept, because you can't imagine square circle

yea i meant the idea of a square circle, you cant imagine what it would look like but you can imagine the concept of it, but that doesnt bring it into existence so its not real.

 

[theRetard]

Tell me how they are problematic. I can almost guarantee you havent studied them or really any form of cosmological apologetics

that's, because why thomists even decided that it is exactly god's work in all 5 arguments lul, it could be something different

. Your argument is an equivocation fallacy because you equivocate 2 dofferent definitions of non existence.

i keep the same definition lul, how is this equivocation lul

From what I have seen of you, you also dont provide the actually important evidence of the resurrection nor do you makeany argument for why an existent God would hage revealed Himself in any way (that is, you must first define your set when making a proof)

how resurrection is even related to this topic? ive never claimed something about resurrection lul. strawman fallacy in work