I wish the Christian religion were true

[Mainlander]

But it isnt

the time i got that realization my whole world crumbled

 

[Mogger]

Who could you know?

 

[Mainlander]

Who could you know?

We dont have free will

with that the whole bible lacks any sense

 

[Mogger]

We dont have free will

with that the whole bible lacks any sense

Why dont you think we have free will?

 

[Gargantuan]

Christianity was never meant to be a religion.
It began as a path of inner gnosis, what the Gospel of Thomas called finding the light within.

The tragedy is that it was turned outward, made into dogma, aka man-made religion.
The real message was always that heaven starts the moment you remember.

 

[Deleted member 121340]

Christianity was never meant to be a religion.
It began as a path of inner gnosis, what the Gospel of Thomas called finding the light within.

The tragedy is that it was turned outward, made into dogma, aka man-made religion.
The real message was always that heaven starts the moment you remember.

You're an interesting fellow; you always have interesting opinions/remarks.

 

[Mainlander]

Why dont you think we have free will?

Scientifically speaking our brains operate through neurons that react to stimuli signals are received and processed at incredible speed far beyond our conscious control


From a more spiritual or metaphysical perspective existence itself can only fall into two categories:

things that are caused and things that occur randomly like quantum events

Our will follows the same principle every decision is either caused by something or it may be in some situations random and in neither case can it be truly free

I believe in a high psr which means that most things are predetermined

Our will is always predetermined by something else

 

[Laqi]

But it isnt

the time i got that realization my whole world crumbled

but why? Is obeying so good?
I don't like the fact the I couldn't choose to be born or not, then I couldn't even chose who I wanted to be born as
Then you come and tell me, it's a gift so i should worship you for it?
Nah, no thanks you sadistic one

 

[Deleted member 121340]

Scientifically speaking our brains operate through neurons that react to stimuli signals are received and processed at incredible speed far beyond our conscious control


From a more spiritual or metaphysical perspective existence itself can only fall into two categories:

things that are caused and things that occur randomly like quantum events

Our will follows the same principle every decision is either caused by something or it may be in some situations random and in neither case can it be truly free

I believe in a high psr which means that most things are predetermined

Our will is always predetermined by something else

Doomed to your past. 90% of the actions you take today are meticulously calculated in your head, judged by previous experience. Metaphysically-speaking, you're only reenacting, not choosing.

I wasn't discrediting you btw, everything you said is true.

 

[Mainlander]

but why? Is obeying so good?
I don't like the fact the I couldn't choose to be born or not, then I couldn't even chose who I wanted to be born as
Then you come and tell me, it's a gift so i should worship you for it?
Nah, no thanks you sadistic one

Christianity is a joke really

I still cannot understand how i could have been this delusional

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Christianity was never meant to be a religion.
It began as a path of inner gnosis, what the Gospel of Thomas called finding the light within.

The tragedy is that it was turned outward, made into dogma, aka man-made religion.
The real message was always that heaven starts the moment you remember.

Very eastern like. I believe he was sent to reform the retarded Joos, but the Abrahamiks were too low IQ to comprehend this message. Hence they just absorbed him into their pre existing Jooish ideology and called it a religion

 

[Mainlander]

but why? Is obeying so good?
I don't like the fact the I couldn't choose to be born or not, then I couldn't even chose who I wanted to be born as
Then you come and tell me, it's a gift so i should worship you for it?
Nah, no thanks you sadistic one

Still I wish I could cope with the fact that there is a heaven

And that my life is not the only time im a being

because my life is just suffering

 

[Laqi]

Christianity is a joke really

I still cannot understand how i could have been this delusional

I was delusional one too You are just born into it.I think religious people are very privileged. Go ask random homeless hungry man if he believes in God that put him through so much misery
There is no end to delusions, people need something to cope with death

 

[Laqi]

Still I wish I could cope with the fact that there is a heaven

And that my life is not the only time im a being

because my life is just suffering

Same shit I wish I was just ltn but had enough money for shit I want and shit I want is to eat meat daily and have my own car, house and live comfortably, not some Ferrari.
even your intelligence, main potential of your life is something you can't choose lol
holy shit I m gonna get cortisol from this so I gotta stop here

 

[SheafCohomology]

how freewill doesnt exist does not mean christ is not a god

 

[Mainlander]

how freewill doesnt exist does not mean christ is not a god

Okay but then he clearly isn’t a good God.


The argument that suffering (which equals not good ) exists only because of free will would fall apart


That would mean God allows suffering for no reason. And whether we repent or not would also be predetermined

God cannot be good in that sense


So the entire idea of praying and believing would completely collapse

which is the main idea of christianity

 

[SheafCohomology]

Okay but then he clearly isn’t a good God.


The argument that suffering (which equals not good ) exists only because of free will would fall apart


That would mean God allows suffering for no reason. And whether we repent or not would also be predetermined

God cannot be good in that sense


So the entire idea of praying and believing would completely collapse

which is the main idea of christianity

god can do whatever he wants

 

[Deleted member 92806]

Christianity was never meant to be a religion.
It began as a path of inner gnosis, what the Gospel of Thomas called finding the light within.

The tragedy is that it was turned outward, made into dogma, aka man-made religion.
The real message was always that heaven starts the moment you remember.

it was always a religion created by jews to subvert whites into thinking that we're equal with inferior races because we have the same religion

 

[Mainlander]

god can do whatever he wants

Why would i want to believe or pray to a god that does not care about humans

because he "can do whatever he wants"

Thats some bs right there tbh

 

[Deleted member 92806]

how freewill doesnt exist does not mean christ is not a god

it literally does tho because how will they choose who goes to heaven and hell if free will doesn't exist, and if it doesn't exist and you go to heaven or hell based on predetermined actions then that's retarded as fuck why would anyone believe this bs.

 

[SheafCohomology]

Why would i want to believe or pray to a god that does not care about humans

because he "can do whatever he wants"

Thats some bs right there tbh

christ sacrificed himself to forgive our sins what else do you need

 

[Deleted member 92806]

religion is a cope, everything in life is a cope.

the blackpill always comes to collect.

 

[Deleted member 180145]

fuck your jew on a stick.

 

[Acquiescence]

Ohhh nooo an ideology that believes the vast majority of humanity will suffer infinite eternal suffering isn’t true nooooo

 

[wewuzaryans134]

dont sweat if you cant believe a religion, some people can just never feel the spiritual

 

[slaters]

But it isnt

the time i got that realization my whole world crumbled

When and why did you come to that realization

 

[ezio6]

Midwits thread

 

[Deleted member 234348]

Christianity was never meant to be a religion.
It began as a path of inner gnosis, what the Gospel of Thomas called finding the light within.

The tragedy is that it was turned outward, made into dogma, aka man-made religion.
The real message was always that heaven starts the moment you remember.