I wonder how many of you are truly ugly.

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Or just average looking people with shitty fucking social skills. (Average is ugly bro!) no its not, stop being a psl autist, I rarely see true ugly people IRL, i'm talking about those google troll images, that kind of ugly, I feel like most people here are just terrible at socializing, because if you're average looking and don't know how to talk to people, let alone females thats going to be a huge problem.
Ugly is 3 PSL or below. So like 34% of the male population. Fat ppl don’t count. When I think 3 psl I think FaceAndLMS, ReviewBrah, Lil Baby, Ed Sheeran is probably 3.5 PSL. The “being ugly my experience” guy is 2.5 PSL
 
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is this a personal attack?
You're not ugly, retard.

This is ugly:

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I used Hell's Kitchen participants because it's extremely hard to find ugly people on the internet, there is a general dislike of using ugly characters anywhere.
 
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if ur BMI is healthy ur fat cause bmi is a lie
shoutout to the fat kid i asked what his bmi was and he said "what the fuck is bmi" jiffle
 
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Ugly is 3 PSL or below. So like 34% of the male population. Fat ppl don’t count. When I think 3 psl I think FaceAndLMS, ReviewBrah, Lil Baby, Ed Sheeran is probably 3.5 PSL. The “being ugly my experience” guy is 2.5 PSL
reviewbrah is a mogger
You're not ugly, retard.

This is ugly:

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I used Hell's Kitchen participants because it's extremely hard to find ugly people on the internet, there is a general dislike of using ugly characters anywhere.
>all bald
@Baldingman1998 @SubhumanCurrycel hairpilled again
 
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Ugly is 3 PSL or below. So like 34% of the male population. Fat ppl don’t count. When I think 3 psl I think FaceAndLMS, ReviewBrah, Lil Baby, Ed Sheeran is probably 3.5 PSL. The “being ugly my experience” guy is 2.5 PSL
'Fat ppl don't count'

Retard, adiposity is the strongest predictor of attractiveness in both men and women. Just being average and lean already puts you above most men.
 
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if ur BMI is healthy ur fat cause bmi is a lie
lean-muscular generally means healthy bmi

while properly gymmaxxed means slightly on the overweight side even when leaner
 
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reviewbrah is a mogger

>all bald
@Baldingman1998 @SubhumanCurrycel hairpilled again
@SubhumanCurrycel

He has good bones, but his collagen is bad and he is balding, it's over for him tbh.
 
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lean-muscular generally means healthy bmi

while properly gymmaxxed means slightly on the overweight side even when leaner
my bmi is healthy ngl
 
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Ugly is 3 PSL or below. So like 34% of the male population. Fat ppl don’t count. When I think 3 psl I think FaceAndLMS, ReviewBrah, Lil Baby, Ed Sheeran is probably 3.5 PSL. The “being ugly my experience” guy is 2.5 PSL
Yeah dude i was gonna say
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ed sheeran is def not ugly, he is bloated though
 
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From what I have seen most users are average or better.
 
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@SubhumanCurrycel

He has good bones, but his collagen is bad and he is balding, it's over for him tbh.
pheno is his biggest failo collagen and hair can be fixed to a decent degree
 
You're not ugly, retard.

This is ugly:

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I used Hell's Kitchen participants because it's extremely hard to find ugly people on the internet, there is a general dislike of using ugly characters anywhere.
2nd guy is 4 psl
 
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I wonder how many "mentalcels" are above average looking vs average/slightly below
 
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When I was 58 kg, a nurse taking my measurements told me to "eat more"

jfl at bluepillers ngl
When i was a baby i was quite skinny, this bitch literally said "Just feed him some pizza it has veggies, meat etc" :lul::lul:
 
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I am ugly, @thinwhiteduke can confirm ngl
 
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'Fat ppl don't count'

Retard, adiposity is the strongest predictor of attractiveness in both men and women. Just being average and lean already puts you above most men.
It’s a difference between being ugly and fat tho. You can fix fat. You can’t fix ugly very easily, and even if you do, you can go from 300 lbs to 160 lbs lean and muscular. In most cases you may never go from 3 to 5 psl even worth surgeries
 
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lmfao

OP made a similar thread weeks ago saying people use their lack of model tier looks as an excuse

I'm saying that most with shitty social skills are average/below looking

you can be above average looking but not model tier
 
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Narrow long face is his major failo, he has no sex appeal.
He’s more aesthetically appealing to look at the Ed Sheeran so I say 4 psl. Not ugly just average. Average person has a major Failo
 
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It’s a difference between being ugly and fat tho. You can fix fat. You can’t fix ugly very easily, and even if you do, you can go from 300 lbs to 160 lbs lean and muscular. In most cases you may never go from 3 to 5 psl even worth surgeries
Most ugliness is caused by being fat though so what is your point? I mean if we ignore being fat, assume most men are lean, this will make at least 70% of them above average. Give them all the possible softmaxxes and at least 90% of them will be above average. Those other 10% will still benefit a lot, but won't get above average, so those would be the true ugly ones you mentioned?
 
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lmfao

OP made a similar thread weeks ago saying people use their lack of model tier looks as an excuse

I'm saying that most with shitty social skills are average/below looking

you can be above average looking but not model tier
Meh, most mental development happens by the time you become like 3 or 4. Your parents have the biggest influence on you. So your looks won't correlate too much to your social skills.
 
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Most ugliness is caused by being fat though so what is your point? I mean if we ignore being fat, assume most men are lean, this will make at least 70% of them above average. Give them all the possible softmaxxes and at least 90% of them will be above average. Those other 10% will still benefit a lot, but won't get above average, so those would be the true ugly ones you mentioned?
Doesn’t even make sense. Average means 50th percentile. How can 70% of men all be above average at once? Copes me. A fit 3 psl dude > a fat 5 psl dude sure, and you wouldn’t be able to tell he was 5 psl cuz of his fat rolls. However, being fit and 3 psl puts you at overall 5/10 at most
 
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Meh, most mental development happens by the time you become like 3 or 4. Your parents have the biggest influence on you. So your looks won't correlate too much to your social skills.
highly disagree

social development in childhood is very important
 
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Doesn’t even make sense. Average means 50th percentile. How can 70% of men all be above average at once? Copes me. A fit 3 psl dude > a fat 5 psl dude sure, and you wouldn’t be able to tell he was 5 psl cuz of his fat rolls. However, being fit and 3 psl puts you at overall 5/10 at most
It's assuming you take 100 random men, make them lean, softmaxx them as much as possible. 90% of them will be above average. That's what I claimed.

Of course if all men became lean at once there would be no net movement in SMV.
 
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social development in childhood is very important
Sure, but infant development is even more important. It's generally known that the younger someone is, the bigger the effect of his upbringing will have on them.
 
Sure, but infant development is even more important. It's generally known that the younger someone is, the bigger the effect of his upbringing will have on them.
well most people here i assume were fine and not abused as infants

the social development, be it good or bad, was determined in our childhood years
 
well most people here i assume were fine and not abused as infants

the social development, be it good or bad, was determined in our childhood years
All development is virtually done between 0 and 9 years old.
Obviously 0-3 has more impact than 3-6 has more impact than 6-9.

And JFL you wouldn't even know you were abused. I recently came to find out that I was bullied by a teenage girl when I was an infant, she'd scare the shit out of me, now I am anxious/wary/aggressive around females, coincidence?
 
All development is virtually done between 0 and 9 years old.
Obviously 0-3 has more impact than 3-6 has more impact than 6-9.

And JFL you wouldn't even know you were abused. I recently came to find out that I was bullied by a teenage girl when I was an infant, she'd scare the shit out of me, now I am anxious/wary/aggressive around females, coincidence?
like i said, most. you being bullied as an infant is an outlier
 
Most avg guys can still get laid unless giga manlet or bald
Its so fucking over for baldies its not even funny. I notice manlets are made fun of on here a lot but not much baldies. That shows it all
 
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like i said, most. you being bullied as an infant is an outlier
Yes, but how would you know who was abused or not on this site?

Why are you assuming average people gravitate towards this site? If 1% of the population was abused and they all gravitated towards a specific site, the specific site could still have abuse rates of 80%. This is obviously numbers out of my ass, but it's an example.

How do you know your own parents didn't abuse you somehow? What about the nanny? You don't, you never do.

The fact is the typical psychological incel traits/difficulty with females are correlated to childhood abuse though.
 
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Its so fucking over for baldies its not even funny. I notice manlets are made fun of on here a lot but not much baldies. That shows it all
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Its so fucking over for baldies its not even funny. I notice manlets are made fun of on here a lot but not much baldies. That shows it all
Keep your voice down, most of the mods are balding, lmao.
 
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Yes, but how would you know who was abused or not on this site?

Why are you assuming average people gravitate towards this site? If 1% of the population was abused and they all gravitated towards a specific site, the specific site could still have abuse rates of 80%. This is obviously numbers out of my ass, but it's an example.

How do you know your own parents didn't abuse you somehow? What about the nanny? You don't, you never do.

The fact is the typical psychological incel traits/difficulty with females are correlated to childhood abuse though.
or ugliness/bullying from ugliness? i had shit acne in middle/high school. that was my main problem
 
Keep your voice down, most of the mods are balding, lmao.
I'm balding motherfucker I have the pass

An example of it being hell is even truecels dont want to talk to you if you don't have hair somehow a 5'6 very ugly ethnic type person think hes above you
 
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or ugliness/bullying from ugliness? i had shit acne in middle/high school. that was my main problem
Yeah, but I am talking about infant years, where you're not likely to be ugly at all, but just cute.

As I said before, studies show that most psychological development stops at 9. Your character at 9 basically stays with you overall. At the same time, you can't deny that 0-3 is more important than 3-6 which is more important than 6-9, which is more important than 9-18.

You can't really know much of what happened to you before 4 years old, even your memories at 6 will be vague.
 
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Yeah, but I am talking about infant years, where you're not likely to be ugly at all, but just cute.

As I said before, studies show that most psychological development stops at 9. Your character at 9 basically stays with you overall. At the same time, you can't deny that 0-3 is more important than 3-6 which is more important than 6-9, which is more important than 9-18.

You can't really know much of what happened to you before 4 years old, even your memories at 6 will be vague.
true.

in my experience anyway, most of my social struggles happened around middle school. elementary school years wise i was pretty normie
 
I was probably 3PSL or so at my ugliest, but my appeal overall was complete shit cause shaving your scalp whilst having a recessed lower third is a terrible idea with all the shit like tik tok we have around. Buzz cut nowadays is a Chad only haircut, but I guess my bones eventually kicked in. I was actually goodlooking as a kid but I had a ton of shit that made me ugly in middle school. I was like, the most unattractive you could get and still be able to get female attention, so like 4/10 facially (terrible jaw, good eye area) with a skinny body and not having hit puberty yet.
 
Retard, adiposity is the strongest predictor of attractiveness in both men and women. Just being average and lean already puts you above most men
will this not also mean that there are people that despite high bodyfat are still above average because they don't store fat in face like most people? and the opposite too.
 
true.

in my experience anyway, most of my social struggles happened around middle school. elementary school years wise i was pretty normie
I doubt you were bullied for your acne though. Bullies will find anything to bull you for, it's not something specific to your looks most of the time, in fact if you're deformed you're probably less likely to be bullied because of guilt. Often bullied people have that type of personality that attracts bullies like mosquitoes to blood.
 
will this not also mean that there are people that despite high bodyfat are still above average because they don't store fat in face like most people? and the opposite too.
Yes, for sure, some men are absolute chads at 18% body-fat. Overall though, I don't think I've ever seen an attractive obese man or woman though.
 
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I doubt you were bullied for your acne though. Bullies will find anything to bull you for, it's not something specific to your looks most of the time, in fact if you're deformed you're probably less likely to be bullied because of guilt. Often bullied people have that type of personality that attracts bullies like mosquitoes to blood.
yeah deformities are less of a bullying magnet than acne

also the bullying was mainly middle school. high school not really.
 
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