Ibutamoren (Need highqcells)

[Bonesmashmaxxer]

Ive realised that mk-677 has been a well talked about topic on the org so im gonna try to keep my questions short.
1. If growth plates are open; would mk677 realistically cause (even a little) growth in height without negative feedback or too many sides.
Thinking logically extra growth hormone would mean extra growth but theres been alot of discussion about early epiphyseal plate closure due to excess aromatisation and the sleep benefits help.
2. Will Mk677 cause even slight facial bone growth?
I realise that mk677 is kinda cope and Hgh, igf etc are way better options for height and test and tren for facial bone growth but im not retarded enough to stoop to that level yet so oral's it it.
My questions really come down to one thing and thats if its worth it.

 

[copercel123]

Ughh this microfucking shit again? I’m good tbh
Which one do you have experience with and how did it go bro?

I have no experience with any of these two, but I do have experience with anabolic drugs/peptides etc

 

[2chevskuy]

I have no experience with any of these two, but I do have experience with anabolic drugs/peptides etc

Oh I see. Maybe you have any threads from other users talking about these two?

 

[copercel123]

Oh I see. Maybe you have any threads from other users talking about these two?

I didnt had experience with these two personally, I only researched on them but never got to inject these two but maybe @Jonas2k7 , @Zagro and @chadisbeingmade have any experience with igf-1 lr3 or igf-1 des.

 

[2chevskuy]

Also, I can’t really inject DES into my spine right? Because I can trigger some super extra must-have shit and be a vegetable for the rest of my miserable life. So des in.. I’m guessing legs, lr3 for overall picture?

 

[copercel123]

Also, I can’t really inject DES into my spine right? Because I can trigger some super extra must-have shit and be a vegetable for the rest of my miserable life. So des in.. I’m guessing legs, lr3 for overall picture?

I would go with igf lr3 since you have less engagement than with des

 

[2chevskuy]

I would go with igf lr3 since you have less engagement than with des

I have a question though. If igf is cheaper and there’s no need to fuck around with gh for it to fuck up your liver and make it make igf1 etc etc etc why buy gh in the first place can’t you just bypass it and just inject igf1? Well why don’t many people do that?

 

[copercel123]

I have a question though. If igf is cheaper and there’s no need to fuck around with gh for it to fuck up your liver and make it make igf1 etc etc etc why buy gh in the first place can’t you just bypass it and just inject igf1? Well why don’t many people do that?

You can but GH is more potent than IGF-1 in many wise, such as fat burning, collagen production, skin elasticity, joint health, immune modulation, and sleep quality. None of these effects can be replicated by IGF1 alone.

 

[2chevskuy]

You can but GH is more potent than IGF-1 in many wise, such as fat burning, collagen production, skin elasticity, joint health, immune modulation, and sleep quality. None of these effects can be replicated by IGF1 alone.

Well teens buy gh exclusively for bone growth lets be real, so it turns out they’re overpaying like what like x10 or x20 for the stuff they don’t really need?

 

[copercel123]

Well teens buy gh exclusively for bone growth lets be real, so it turns out they’re overpaying like what like x10 or x20 for the stuff they don’t really need?

GH works indirectly by making the liver produce IGF 1, which is the real driver of bone growth. You could bypass GH and go straight to IGF-1 (LR3 or DES) or another gh secretgogues for way less money.
GH also does other stuff (fat loss, collagen, etc.) but for height only, it’s an overpriced route unless the full hormone stack (T3, insulin, sleep, diet) is optimized

 

[2chevskuy]

GH works indirectly by making the liver produce IGF 1, which is the real driver of bone growth. You could bypass GH and go straight to IGF-1 (LR3 or DES) or another gh secretgogues for way less money.
GH also does other stuff (fat loss, collagen, etc.) but for height only, it’s an overpriced route unless the full hormone stack (T3, insulin, sleep, diet) is optimized

You saved my life, three months of my miserable work, my wallet and my brain you deserve a blowjob but I’m just gonna rep some of your posts then gts alright bro? It’s 2.30 am for me I gotta wake up at 7. 17 hours tmrw again I work 2/2. Gn the wise nigga

 

[copercel123]

You saved my life, three months of my miserable work, my wallet and my brain you deserve a blowjob but I’m just gonna rep some of your posts then gts alright bro? It’s 2.30 am for me I gotta wake up at 7. 17 hours tmrw again I work 2/2. Gn the wise nigga

It’s 2:30 for me too haha . Thanks anyway gn

 

[copercel123]

You saved my life, three months of my miserable work, my wallet and my brain you deserve a blowjob but I’m just gonna rep some of your posts then gts alright bro? It’s 2.30 am for me I gotta wake up at 7. 17 hours tmrw again I work 2/2. Gn the wise nigga

If you need anything tag me

 

[2chevskuy]

It’s 2:30 for me too haha . Thanks anyway gn

I thought you were American. I’m guessing you’re uh Ukrainian or something like that?

 

[2chevskuy]

If you need anything tag me

I wish I knew how to tag, I’m slow

 

[copercel123]

I thought you were American. I’m guessing you’re uh Ukrainian or something like that?

Haha. I’m from Israel. We love you (particularly)

 

[copercel123]

I wish I knew how to tag, I’m slow

Just press @ and write my name

 

[2chevskuy]

Haha. I’m from Israel. We love you (particularly)

Oh that’s surprising haha. Anyways it’s mutual

 

[2chevskuy]

Just press @ and write my name

Oh, I’ve just got it, for some reason no name showed up before

 

[2chevskuy]

Gn now broski

 

[jeff1234]

Fazeli et al., 2008 – MK-677 increased fat mass and insulin resistance in healthy adults within 8 weeks. Diet was monitored and controlled. No bulking, no “eating like a retard”, still saw metabolic decline.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18430778


You’re right that you can’t gain weight without a surplus. But you can get worse nutrient partitioning, higher fasting glucose, and reduced insulin sensitivity ,even at maintenance. Chronic IGF 1 and ghrelin signaling cause that. It’s not just about calories in vs out, it’s where they’re going.
Ghrelin isn’t meant to be chronically elevated. MK gives you 24/7 ghrelin like stimulation, which dysregulates leptin and dopamine signaling. Appetite isn’t the only issue, neurohormonal satiety feedback gets distorted, which can lead to rebound eating after cessation too
As for the bloat sure, it fades post cycle. But most people bail on MK because it doesn’t deliver a clean GH effect unless you stack it with insulin sensitizers and strict glycemic control. Otherwise you’re bloated, hungrier, with worse pumps and potentially fatter.
Yeah, you can monitor glucose. But then you’re running a compound that forces you into a diagnostic mindset just to avoid turning prediabetic, for what? Slightly better sleep and maybe a placebo on recovery?

@kazama how is that possible he fucks up evryone in a argumet

 

[kazama]

@kazama how is that possible he fucks up evryone in a argumet

Israeli blood runs in his veins.......blud is prepared for any debate