Ideal dick theory

Which mogs?

  • Sweet spot of almost big enough for it to cause problems, but not quite

    Votes: 22 50.0%
  • Bigger bc it’s dimorphic, dick worship. Even if the sex is limited

    Votes: 18 40.9%
  • Some other option(elab)

    Votes: 4 9.1%

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    44
nor have I been able to get the girls off from fucking alone.
This might prove the theory of erection quality and erection angle. Mine is a very good upwards angle which hits girls' G-spots perfectly in missionary, like when 100% erect standing it points up to the ceiling basically. Unfortunately doggystyle feels a bit weird even tho I prefer the view 10x more
 
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You’re right. Wanting to be bigger is inescapable. I got a friend who used to be on here with 9+ and he still talks about wanting to be bigger, rough shit is out of the question for most girls because of the length or the girth? Oh you said yes to all the issues I gave. Brutal.

Peep the last part of the prior message. I edited it after you responded.
length more so than the girth for rough shit, most girls can get used to girth but the depth is like they have balls and I'm kicking their balls over and over, some girls like it but most don't

I heard P in V orgasms have more to do with your face than your dick lol, chad makes her cum with a microdick
tbh dick size is like nose, if it's not too noticeable in either direction then your face takes care of the rest, know what I mean?
 
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I promise some girls genuinely don't even remotely give a shit about it, some girls are obsessed with it.
This actually makes sense. I've seen girls get turned on more by a guys forearm, abs, pecs, ESPECIALLY back or shoulders than just seeing a dick.

They do seem to like certain shit more, I feel like a good body impacts sex a lot as well for her visually, toned abs and shit. Compared to if it was some obesecel fucking her
 
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Yeah most girls don't like 69 very much from my experience
Interesting
My experience shows most girls like giving oral but not receiving at the same time. So you’re right
 
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length more so than the girth for rough shit, most girls can get used to girth but the depth is like they have balls and I'm kicking their balls over and over, some girls like it but most don't

I heard P in V orgasms have more to do with your face than your dick lol, chad makes her cum with a microdick
tbh dick size is like nose, if it's not too noticeable in either direction then your face takes care of the rest, know what I mean?
From my experience p in v orgasms occur very easily when there's a very strong erection and good rhythm, not all-out rough fucking like what porn makes people think. Even slow-moderate pace is good.
 
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This actually makes sense. I've seen girls get turned on more by a guys forearm, abs, pecs, ESPECIALLY back or shoulders than just seeing a dick.

They do seem to like certain shit more, I feel like a good body impacts sex a lot as well for her visually, toned abs and shit. Compared to if it was some obesecel fucking her
we like to be black and white here but it's really more complicated than that
some girls just like shit, and some girls just DON'T like shit
 
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Interesting
My experience shows most girls like giving oral but not receiving at the same time. So you’re right
Yeah girls will love to give head because it makes them feel sexy and because if sex doesn't happen (rarely) at least they feel like they did something
 
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we like to be black and white here but it's really more complicated than that
some girls just like shit, and some girls just DON'T like shit
Idk it seems pretty general consensus, girls love wide shoulders a fuck ton that and face are key components of her orgasm.
@CupOfCoffee has a giga frame, very masculine when you are on top ngl imagine the mental effect on her.
 
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Yeah girls will love to give head because it makes them feel sexy and because if sex doesn't happen (rarely) at least they feel like they did something
My girlfriend and most of my lays tell me giving head is very submissive and turns them on. I kinda count oral sex as sex tbh.
 
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Idk it seems pretty general consensus, girls love wide shoulders a fuck ton that and face are key components of her orgasm.
@CupOfCoffee has a giga frame, very masculine when you are on top ngl imagine the mental effect on her.
I mean shit like dick size, abs etc
there's some base level shit like height, frame, face that all girls like
but then there's little shit that some girls might like some girls might be indifferent to and some girls might dislike like leanness, muscle size, dick size etc
 
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This actually makes sense. I've seen girls get turned on more by a guys forearm, abs, pecs, ESPECIALLY back or shoulders than just seeing a dick.

They do seem to like certain shit more, I feel like a good body impacts sex a lot as well for her visually, toned abs and shit. Compared to if it was some obesecel fucking her
I disagree tbh. You know what it actually is? It's when you have a lot of aggression and confidence during sex serious. Maybe at girls close their eyes when they're close to cumming anyways so they're not looking at you that much, but they do feel your rhythm and how aggressive you are being and the grunts you make and the spanks, basically I think what eventually pushes them past orgasm is the combination of those things in addition to a strong erection. Has nothing to do with your looks at all once you're at that point lol
 
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I disagree tbh. You know what it actually is? It's when you have a lot of aggression and confidence during sex serious. Maybe at girls close their eyes when they're close to cumming anyways so they're not looking at you that much, but they do feel your rhythm and how aggressive you are being and the grunts you make and the spanks, basically I think what eventually pushes them past orgasm is the combination of those things in addition to a strong erection. Has nothing to do with your looks at all once you're at that point lol
I do feel like a dimorphic face and your giga frame contributes a lot to the feeling of dominance, her seeing a guy with insane frame and facial dimorphism pound her turns her on and leads her to that point. But I get what you mean by her close to cumming and closing her eyes and shit.
 
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This might prove the theory of erection quality and erection angle. Mine is a very good upwards angle which hits girls' G-spots perfectly in missionary, like when 100% erect standing it points up to the ceiling basically. Unfortunately doggystyle feels a bit weird even tho I prefer the view 10x more
You lucky bastard mine only kinda points up. Maybe it would be better if I had truly maxxed out eq from proper sleep but no way it’d be on your level. That theory doesn’t even need proving it’s a given that it gives a major advantage. Undeniable, but also rather unacknowledged. Wish there was more I could do about it.
 
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Idk it seems pretty general consensus, girls love wide shoulders a fuck ton that and face are key components of her orgasm.
@CupOfCoffee has a giga frame, very masculine when you are on top ngl imagine the mental effect on her.
She does hate being on top of me, I think it just looks weird, pretty sure the sight of a giant 24" bideltoid with abs and a tan does have some effect. Not nearly as important as your aggression in the moment tho
 
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You lucky bastard mine only kinda points up. Maybe it would be better if I had truly maxxed out eq from proper sleep but no way it’d be on your level. That theory doesn’t even need proving it’s a given that it gives a major advantage. Undeniable, but also rather unacknowledged. Wish there was more I could do about it.
I'm kind of worried if I take this hanging and extender shit too far it will reduce my erection angle. I can afford some reduction but def don't want it to go down 20 degrees or something
 
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I disagree tbh. You know what it actually is? It's when you have a lot of aggression and confidence during sex serious. Maybe at girls close their eyes when they're close to cumming anyways so they're not looking at you that much, but they do feel your rhythm and how aggressive you are being and the grunts you make and the spanks, basically I think what eventually pushes them past orgasm is the combination of those things in addition to a strong erection. Has nothing to do with your looks at all once you're at that point lol
Her arousal kind of happens before that point, so if you're a wide framed good looking guy, she's already going to be a turned on to a point where it's easy
it's not exactly accurate to say "because she closes her eyes near the end, what you look like has nothing to do with it" when what you look like is what got her in the bed in the first place, know what I mean?

now again, we like to be black and white, but the truth is it could be the physical way we do it, it could be frame and face, it could be dick size, it could be anything, and it could be different for every girl
we can't really know if we can't try it both ways, we can't exactly make our frames go away or make our dicks smaller or whatever
 
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She does hate being on top of me, I think it just looks weird, pretty sure the sight of a giant 24" bideltoid with abs and a tan does have some effect. Not nearly as important as your aggression in the moment tho
How do you define aggression and dominance? You said you think a slower rhythm mogs the rougher, faster pounding that I tend to associate with aggression and dominance
I'm kind of worried if I take this hanging and extender shit too far it will reduce my erection angle. I can afford some reduction but def don't want it to go down 20 degrees or something
yeah be careful there
Her arousal kind of happens before that point, so if you're a wide framed good looking guy, she's already going to be a turned on to a point where it's easy
it's not exactly accurate to say "because she closes her eyes near the end, what you look like has nothing to do with it" when what you look like is what got her in the bed in the first place, know what I mean?

now again, we like to be black and white, but the truth is it could be the physical way we do it, it could be frame and face, it could be dick size, it could be anything, and it could be different for every girl
we can't really know if we can't try it both ways, we can't exactly make our frames go away or make our dicks smaller or whatever
Well said. All comes back to the forever brutal everything matters theory. For example trading an inch of frame for an inch of dick or vice versa could make things better or worse. All depends on the whole package of you as a man and what works for her as a girl
 
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Context is important too. My girlfriend and ex used to a rush out of public sex. Sometimes it’s more about the moment than anything planned. “Planning” for sex is always underwhelming
 
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Well said. All comes back to the forever brutal everything matters theory. For example trading an inch of frame for an inch of dick or vice versa could make things better or worse. All depends on the whole package of you as a man and what works for her as a girl
Everything matters, try to max out as much as you can. Dick is kinda limited with your base and if you can be fucked to do it with stretches, extenders but bathmate seems reliable and easy as a sidemax to do for girth. Gymmax for body halo and get a wideish frame, and most importantly facemax. Can't really change height and no one will get that LL surgery :lul:
 
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My girlfriend and most of my lays tell me giving head is very submissive and turns them on. I kinda count oral sex as sex tbh.
Indeed that’s a concern of mine that extra girth would improve piv but worsen the experience overall by making head impossible. I’d be happy with a girl just sucking the tip and double handing the shaft and being sloppy with it though. That shits amazing.

@volcelfatcel @CupOfCoffee @loksr @TRUE_CEL @stewiegriffin i think the best conclusion for my situation is this: There is a certain range that makes up the sweet spot of big but not so big that it’s costly. Im somewhere in that range. Maybe I’m right at the top end, maybe I could grow more and not leave this range and thus be better off. The best thing for me is to wait til I fix my sleep and and max out my eq and the things that matter more for my smv and quality of life. Once I have a reasonably abundant sex life I’ll know better where I stand and if growing is in my best interest. The progress with pe comes slowly and often isn’t permanent if you don’t cement it, so once I start bottoming out more, getting shittier head, hurting the girls, etc, I’ll stop. But odds are I’m within a half inch of girth and length from leaving the sweet spot.

@loksr how big are you nbp and how much dick do you have to leave hanging out to not kick them in the balls?
 
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How do you define aggression and dominance? You said you think a slower rhythm mogs the rougher, faster pounding that I tend to associate with aggression and dominance
Aggression and dominance = doing what feels good for you and being aggressive about it. What feels good for me (and probably for majority of people) is slow tempo, then speed it up a bit, get her hornier with that, then slow down again, i.e. keeping your cool and not making it a workout. Then speed it up again, eventually she'll reach orgasm if everything else is good. And by aggression I also mean things like telling her what to do and not having any doubt in yourself. If you want to switch positions you just move her. If you want to stop and make her beg for more you do that. If you want to tell her to ask before she cums, make her hold off her orgasm etc. Ask her things like " who's fucking pussy is this who does it belong to" and calling her bitch dirty slut etc (if she's into being called that stuff obviously).

I've had sex where I mistakenly tried to go hard 100% of the time and needless to say it is a very unenjoyable experience lol
 
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Everything matters, try to max out as much as you can. Dick is kinda limited with your base and if you can be fucked to do it with stretches, extenders but bathmate seems reliable and easy as a sidemax to do for girth. Gymmax for body halo and get a wideish frame, and most importantly facemax. Can't really change height and no one will get that LL surgery :lul:
Indeed I’m fortunate that nearly all my features are in the 80-90th percentile range. Face, height, dick might be a bit higher. Frame is probably lower, especially my hands and wrists but from gym and low bf my body overall is easily 80th, maybe higher. I don’t get out much so I don’t know how I stack up there. But even with shit frame most guys are lazy so I can likely end up in the 90s for face, dick, body(overall), and my height is like 85th. Chadlite all things considered or maybe better idek.
 
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@loksr how big are you nbp and how much dick do you have to leave hanging out to not kick them in the balls?
Not really sure what I am nbp now, I lost 100+ pounds, back then I was like 7.5 nbp so I'm sure it's more now, I know my BP is like 8.2-8.3 now after the weight loss (probably EQ tbh)

as for how much to leave out, I can't say I've ever tried to calculate an exact and obviously it depends on the girl, depends on position etc etc, lots of factors. I would say 7 inches is a pretty safe spot for not having to worry about it with the vast majority of girls though
 
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all these sexhavers itt talking about their experiences and then theres me, a complete and utter virgin:feelshah:
 
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Aggression and dominance = doing what feels good for you and being aggressive about it. What feels good for me (and probably for majority of people) is slow tempo, then speed it up a bit, get her hornier with that, then slow down again, i.e. keeping your cool and not making it a workout. Then speed it up again, eventually she'll reach orgasm if everything else is good. And by aggression I also mean things like telling her what to do and not having any doubt in yourself. If you want to switch positions you just move her. If you want to stop and make her beg for more you do that. If you want to tell her to ask before she cums, make her hold off her orgasm etc. Ask her things like " who's fucking pussy is this who does it belong to" and calling her bitch dirty slut etc (if she's into being called that stuff obviously).

I've had sex where I mistakenly tried to go hard 100% of the time and needless to say it is a very unenjoyable experience lol
My airways cuck my voice pretty badly so I don’t dirty talk. Plus high iq makes that shit weird for me. One girl always wanted me to call her a cumslut and shit like that and I wasn’t really into it ngl. On top of that remember that my sex drive is low. So that component is basically missing. There’s no real aggression in me. I get the pleasure of sex, and the validation, but there’s no driving force making me want to rip her clothes off or whatever. I think it also makes me get less sensation bc I’m less aroused so I resort to fucking fast and hard just trying to make it feel good for myself and get off. Just some boring shit like holding her down and pounding. I need the feeling that of true horny so I can enjoy more without forcing the sensation and be more present. Fix the voice too and then it’d be much more natural for me to dirty talk, connect, change positions, be dominant, etc instead of pinning her down and ravaging her like a human fleshlight and panting in her ear Jfl. Lots of ways I can improve, and yet again another handful of ways bad sleep is life ruining.
 
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Not really sure what I am nbp now, I lost 100+ pounds, back then I was like 7.5 nbp so I'm sure it's more now, I know my BP is like 8.2-8.3 now after the weight loss (probably EQ tbh)

as for how much to leave out, I can't say I've ever tried to calculate an exact and obviously it depends on the girl, depends on position etc etc, lots of factors. I would say 7 inches is a pretty safe spot for not having to worry about it with the vast majority of girls though
Damn dude so you were obese and had a smaller fat pad than me at almost single digit body fat. Clown world. Mirin. What do you think about how much dick you can actually use, bp vs nbp? If I got to 8 bp, even shredded I think I’d only be low 7s nbp.

Also what positions do you feel allow for you to use your length most freely? I’ve heard prone bone is good for long dicks since the ass and thighs give some cushion(which feels amazing too). Hoping this is accurate bc it gives me an excuse to do more of my favorite position :feelsgood: If you know others I’d be curious.

Prone bone is the fucking best. Hands on her wrists pinning her down, her ass against your hips, kiss on her neck or let her turn her head and make out, easy to pound her into the bed and feel her arch her back and push her body up against yours :feelsohh:🤤
 
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I'm kind of worried if I take this hanging and extender shit too far it will reduce my erection angle. I can afford some reduction but def don't want it to go down 20 degrees or something
my dick used to legit point straight up to from such hard erections. like I would have to pull it down just to get it parallel to the ground and their would be resistance. that was in high school. now I'm only 22 and nowhere near that. maybe I should get test levels checked and shit or maybe its normal
 
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my dick used to legit point straight up to from such hard erections. like I would have to pull it down just to get it parallel to the ground and their would be resistance. that was in high school. now I'm only 22 and nowhere near that. maybe I should get test levels checked and shit or maybe its normal
bloodflow matters a lot, cardiovascular performance is key, I have such shit erections and a shit erection angle because of being fat. I simply do not transport enough blood + the fat pad pushing it down.
 
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bloodflow matters a lot, cardiovascular performance is key, I have such shit erections and a shit erection angle because of being fat. I simply do not transport enough blood + the fat pad pushing it down.
Im skinny af and have always been an athlete till very recently so thats not my problem.
I def have poor circulation to my hands and I've noticed it my whole life
 
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my dick used to legit point straight up to from such hard erections. like I would have to pull it down just to get it parallel to the ground and their would be resistance. that was in high school. now I'm only 22 and nowhere near that. maybe I should get test levels checked and shit or maybe its normal
Without doing any pe? Brutal shit. Any idea if there’s a way to increase angle outside of improving eq? Idk if it has gotten worse but it was never all that good to begin with.
 
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bloodflow matters a lot, cardiovascular performance is key, I have such shit erections and a shit erection angle because of being fat. I simply do not transport enough blood + the fat pad pushing it down.
Yes for fucks sake do a lot of cardio. Get very fit cardiovascularly it makes such an insane difference
 
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My airways cuck my voice pretty badly so I don’t dirty talk. Plus high iq makes that shit weird for me. One girl always wanted me to call her a cumslut and shit like that and I wasn’t really into it ngl. On top of that remember that my sex drive is low. So that component is basically missing. There’s no real aggression in me. I get the pleasure of sex, and the validation, but there’s no driving force making me want to rip her clothes off or whatever. I think it also makes me get less sensation bc I’m less aroused so I resort to fucking fast and hard just trying to make it feel good for myself and get off. Just some boring shit like holding her down and pounding. I need the feeling that of true horny so I can enjoy more without forcing the sensation and be more present. Fix the voice too and then it’d be much more natural for me to dirty talk, connect, change positions, be dominant, etc instead of pinning her down and ravaging her like a human fleshlight and panting in her ear Jfl. Lots of ways I can improve, and yet again another handful of ways bad sleep is life ruining.
I genuinely believe girls can sense how horny you actually are. It shows in how you are acting tbh. They can tell 100% when you're just fucking rough because otherwise you'd lose sensation and lose your erection
 
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Without doing any pe? Brutal shit. Any idea if there’s a way to increase angle outside of improving eq? Idk if it has gotten worse but it was never all that good to begin with.
no this was all natural. I actually remember looking up on google that I can't get my dick to go past parallel JFL
 
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Im skinny af and have always been an athlete till very recently so thats not my problem.
I def have poor circulation to my hands and I've noticed it my whole life
circulation issues as well, it's a whole combo, hard dick might be more important than even size once you are average deviations. The harder your dick the better the erection angle usually.
 
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circulation issues as well, it's a whole combo, hard dick might be more important than even size once you are average deviations. The harder your dick the better the erection angle usually.
hopefully cialus 20mg will bring me back to steel erection levels
 
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Yes for fucks sake do a lot of cardio. Get very fit cardiovascularly it makes such an insane difference
Truth brother, I'm leaning out it's definitely better, but I need to lose even more BF. Circulation, bloodflow is so fucking important to dick.
 
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Yes for fucks sake do a lot of cardio. Get very fit cardiovascularly it makes such an insane difference
Thoughts on what i said about the actual sensation of horny? Is there a zone where it Takes over and you get super fucking into it and shit? For me I can just lay in bed or make out and I don’t get overtaken by the mad desire.

I also never feel like I’ve been in a place where I “think with the wrong head” like people say. I’m definitely missing something right?
 
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Truth brother, I'm leaning out it's definitely better, but I need to lose even more BF. Circulation, bloodflow is so fucking important to dick.
the leaner you get the bigger your dick gets
 
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Truth brother, I'm leaning out it's definitely better, but I need to lose even more BF. Circulation, bloodflow is so fucking important to dick.
There's a reason girls are attracted to lean non-bloates faces and bodies. It signals better cardiovascular health lower blood pressure etc so clearly better sex
 
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Damn dude so you were obese and had a smaller fat pad than me at almost single digit body fat. Clown world. Mirin. What do you think about how much dick you can actually use, bp vs nbp? If I got to 8 bp, even shredded I think I’d only be low 7s nbp.

Also what positions do you feel allow for you to use your length most freely? I’ve heard prone bone is good for long dicks since the ass and thighs give some cushion(which feels amazing too). Hoping this is accurate bc it gives me an excuse to do more of my favorite position :feelsgood: If you know others I’d be curious.

Prone bone is the fucking best. Hands on her wrists pinning her down, her ass against your hips, kiss on her neck or let her turn her head and make out, easy to pound her into the bed and feel her arch her back and push her body up against yours :feelsohh:🤤
Clown world indeed, my fat storage genetics are decent as hell, it's all just spread out evenly. It got to the point where I should've looked as fat as DJ Khaled or Jonah Hill or some shit but because it was all evenly placed I just looked mid-high chubby areas, especially with clothes. ngl I was considered pretty gl when fat too so I'm not going to pretend like I had some HUGE ascension
I'm definitely better now though, objectively, better appeal too. I'm not done leanmaxxing yet though, don't have a six pack yet. mirin almost single digit body fat btw, regardless of fat pad

prone bone is honestly my favorite position, period, and you probably just explained to me why that is tbh
anything like that yeah, anything that puts SOMETHING between the pussy and the dick in some way

my fat pad is pretty small now, and a lot of it might just be skin tbh, I'd say it's not a gigantic difference between bp and nbp for me
 
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Clown world indeed, my fat storage genetics are decent as hell, it's all just spread out evenly. It got to the point where I should've looked as fat as DJ Khaled or Jonah Hill or some shit but because it was all evenly placed I just looked mid-high chubby areas, especially with clothes. ngl I was considered pretty gl when fat too so I'm not going to pretend like I had some HUGE ascension
I'm definitely better now though, objectively, better appeal too. I'm not done leanmaxxing yet though, don't have a six pack yet. mirin almost single digit body fat btw, regardless of fat pad

prone bone is honestly my favorite position, period, and you probably just explained to me why that is tbh
anything like that yeah, anything that puts SOMETHING between the pussy and the dick in some way

my fat pad is pretty small now, and a lot of it might just be skin tbh, I'd say it's not a gigantic difference between bp and nbp for me
tldr bro
 
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I genuinely believe girls can sense how horny you actually are. It shows in how you are acting tbh. They can tell 100% when you're just fucking rough because otherwise you'd lose sensation and lose your erection
h didn’t see this. Fucking brutal. I wish I was hornyyyyyyy what kind of man am i:feelswah:
 
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