IDEAL RATIOS HARMONY UPDATED. Front only

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Esr 45-47
Tfwhr 1.33-1.38
Fwhr 1.9-2.05
Midface 1.05-0.95
Eye mouth 45-48
Ipsilateral angle 86-93
Jaw frontal angle 85-95
Bigonial witdh 85-92
Bitemporal witdh 85-95
Deviation IAA JFA 0-3
One eye apart 0.95-1.05
Outer cantal distance 60-68
Mouth to nose 1.42-1.52
Upper lip to lower lip 1.4-1.6
Chin to philtrum 2-2.5
Mouth to chin 0.97-1.03
Eye aspect ratio 3-3.7
Cantal tilt 5-8
Eyebrow tilt 6-13
cheekbone setness 79-88
Jaw witdh to height ratio 1.80-1.90
Facial thirds Lower 33-37, Middle 30-33 Upper 30-33
lower third proportion 30-33
Jaw Slopes 138-148
mouth to ipd 85-90
Nose to icd 1.00-1.20
Neck witdh 88-95
Nasal height to witdh ratio 0.65-0.88
Malar prominence 30-38
Pfl to byzgo 19-24

 

[mtn_dude_193]

isnt .48 esr ideal come on

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

isnt .48 esr ideal come on

T1.5 if 48.0-48.2, T2 48.3 and up

 

[Thodian]

im not even gonna bother i know im ugly.

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

im not even gonna bother i know im ugly.

try it atleast

 

[mtn_dude_193]

T1.5 if 48.0-48.2, T2 48.3 and up

im coping with 0.489 esr but hopefully marpe will fix it

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

@pfl another measurement you know that i forgot?

 

[mtn_dude_193]

@pfl another measurement you know that i forgot?

pfl to bizygo

 

[horseman.]

MTN

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

pfl to bizygo

right

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

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low htn

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

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[migra]

where is fwhr?

 

[Mansur]

Esr 45-47
Tfwhr 1.33-1.38
Fwhr 1.9-2.05
Midface 1.05-0.95
Eye mouth 45-48
Ipsilateral angle 86-93
Jaw frontal angle 85-95
Bigonial witdh 85-92
Bitemporal witdh 85-95
Deviation IAA JFA 0-3
One eye apart 0.95-1.05
Outer cantal distance 60-68
Mouth to nose 1.42-1.52
Upper lip to lower lip 1.4-1.6
Chin to philtrum 2-2.5
Mouth to chin 0.97-1.03
Eye aspect ratio 3-3.7
Cantal tilt 5-8
Eyebrow tilt 6-13
cheekbone setness 79-88
Jaw witdh to height ratio 1.80-1.90
Facial thirds Lower 33-37, Middle 30-33 Upper 30-33
lower third proportion 30-33
Jaw Slopes 138-148
mouth to ipd 85-90
Nose to icd 1.00-1.20
Neck witdh 88-95
Nasal height to witdh ratio 0.65-0.88
Malar prominence 30-38
Pfl to byzgo 19-24

in what world is 1.05 midface ideal lol
Same as with making Ipd ratio higher. Seems like someone has wider set eyes lol

 

[Mansur]

T1.5 if 48.0-48.2, T2 48.3 and up

1% is like a very huge difference on Ipd, wdym T1.5 your telling me thats like a minor minor flaw which isnt even T2? This sheet has to be reworked

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

1% is like a very huge difference on Ipd, wdym T1.5 your telling me thats like a minor minor flaw which isnt even T2? This sheet has to be reworked

minimal jfl, 1.5 is very close to ideal, 2 is decent

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

in what world is 1.05 midface ideal lol
Same as with making Ipd ratio higher. Seems like someone has wider set eyes lol

why is not?

 

[Mansur]

why is not?

The ratio is way to compact for a male face.

 

[Mansur]

minimal jfl, 1.5 is very close to ideal, 2 is decent

Mf ur telling me 43% and 44% is almost the same? Those are like 2 different humans

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Mf ur telling me 43% and 44% is almost the same? Those are like 2 different humans

you stupid retarded nigger, im talking about 43.98-99% or 48.0-48.2, THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IS MINIMAL BEETWEN 47.99 AND 45.00 THATS WHY I PUT ''T1.5'' BECAUSE IS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO IDEAL

 

[Mansur]

The difference is minimal at 47.99 and 45? Are you retarded by any chance and wtf is 43.98-99%.
Go suck dick in bolivia maybe that will put your brain in place

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

The difference is minimal at 47.99 and 45? Are you retarded by any chance and wtf is 43.98-99%.
Go suck dick in bolivia maybe that will put your brain in place

???? NIGGA WHAT THE FUCK ARE U SAYING? ARE U RETARDED? WHY ARE U COMPARING 47.99 WITH 45??, WE ARE COMPARING 47.99 TO 48.00-48.02, WHICH THE DIFFERENCE IS MINIMAL, THATS WHY I CONSIRED IT ''T1.5'', SAME WITH 44.99-44.98 WITH 45. KYS YOU STUPID RETARDED NIGGER

 

[cancsrs]

Esr 45-47
Tfwhr 1.33-1.38
Fwhr 1.9-2.05
Midface 1.05-0.95
Eye mouth 45-48
Ipsilateral angle 86-93
Jaw frontal angle 85-95
Bigonial witdh 85-92
Bitemporal witdh 85-95
Deviation IAA JFA 0-3
One eye apart 0.95-1.05
Outer cantal distance 60-68
Mouth to nose 1.42-1.52
Upper lip to lower lip 1.4-1.6
Chin to philtrum 2-2.5
Mouth to chin 0.97-1.03
Eye aspect ratio 3-3.7
Cantal tilt 5-8
Eyebrow tilt 6-13
cheekbone setness 79-88
Jaw witdh to height ratio 1.80-1.90
Facial thirds Lower 33-37, Middle 30-33 Upper 30-33
lower third proportion 30-33
Jaw Slopes 138-148
mouth to ipd 85-90
Nose to icd 1.00-1.20
Neck witdh 88-95
Nasal height to witdh ratio 0.65-0.88
Malar prominence 30-38
Pfl to byzgo 19-24

any websites/apps to check all (or most) of them?

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

any websites/apps to check all (or most) of them?

imagemeter is your app my boyo, has everything, references, angles, even text. use it

 

[cancsrs]

imagemeter is your app my boyo, has everything, references, angles, even text. use it

free or nah?

 

[killcry]

bloated formula, too many ratios

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

free or nah?

i recommend u to crack imagemeter pro, worth it, free is also good but you can't use more of 6 measurements

 

[cancsrs]

i recommend u to crack imagemeter pro, worth it, free is also good but you can't use more of 6 measurements

bet bhai thanks

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

bloated formula, too many ratios

why?

 

[killcry]

why?

you have fwhr, mfr, iaa, and eme in the same formula, some of which don't even measure actual midface compactness

 

[killcry]

why?

esr, icd, ocd, pfl bizygo, eye aspect ratio

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

you have fwhr, mfr, iaa, and eme in the same formula, some of which don't even measure actual midface compactness

EME measures simmetry, IAA your desviation with Jaw frontal angle, keep coping

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

esr, icd, ocd, pfl bizygo, eye aspect ratio

are important measurements i don't get your point

 

[killcry]

EME measures simmetry, IAA your desviation with Jaw frontal angle, keep coping

if eme measures symmetry then why not split the eme angle down the middle and calculate the deviation between both sides to gauge actual symmetry? if someone can have a completely symmetrical midface yet fall out of the ideal, then it isn't very telling about symmetry

and if the iaa is just there to measure the imbalance between the lower half of the face then why not just have the iaa jfa deviation? furthermore some of the most dimorphic and harmonious male faces have a deviation of 10 degrees in that regard. with more weight on their jaw

 

[killcry]

are important measurements i don't get your point

all of them in one formula is absolutely redundant and i have yet to see anyone prove why each of them actually measure different things that the other ratios dont

 

[lurking truecel]

I Have zero rqtios

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

if eme measures symmetry then why not split the eme angle down the middle and calculate the deviation between both sides to gauge actual symmetry? if someone can have a completely symmetrical midface yet fall out of the ideal, then it isn't very telling about symmetry

Correlation with Attractiveness: A lower difference indicates a highly symmetrical face. Studies show that smaller, narrower EME angles and lower angle asymmetry are consistently rated as more attractive and traditionally masculine

and if the iaa is just there to measure the imbalance between the lower half of the face then why not just have the iaa jfa deviation? furthermore some of the most dimorphic and harmonious male faces have a deviation of 10 degrees in that regard. with more weight on their jaw

i just mentioned some of his uses, IAA is still a important metric for itself, and the deviation, your argument is shit, cuz harmony measures balancing, not extremes like 95 jaw frontal angle and 85 IAA the deviation is shit. and a failo

 

[duduboy]

some nigger said my 0.46 esr is unideal, jfl at these newgen normies

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

all of them in one formula is absolutely redundant and i have yet to see anyone prove why each of them actually measure different things that the other ratios dont

do i have to explain to you? really?, they all measure a different part of the face, ICD or one eye apart measures the distance of canthus, Outercanthus measures the outer canthus the corner of the eye by byzgo, eye aspect ratio how compact is your eye area, pfl to byzgo, is to see if the eye is wide enough compared to byzgo

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

some nigger said my 0.46 esr is unideal, jfl at these newgen normies

is the perfect range

 

[killcry]

Correlation with Attractiveness: A lower difference indicates a highly symmetrical face. Studies show that smaller, narrower EME angles and lower angle asymmetry are consistently rated as more attractive and traditionally masculine

a lower difference with fucking what? the way this community uses the eme angle is literally just a number on its own, so a lower a difference with what?

i just mentioned some of his uses, IAA is still a important metric for itself, and the deviation, your argument is shit, cuz harmony measures balancing, not extremes like 95 jaw frontal angle and 85 IAA the deviation is shit. and a failo

that's more masculine and harmonious for males. a very little deviation or none at all or even a negative deviation is really feminine.

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

a lower difference with fucking what? the way this community uses the eme angle is literally just a number on its own, so a lower a difference with what?

well i dont fucking know, ask the niggas who make studys about this, i just know that the ideal range of eme angle looks better than a unideal eme angle.

that's more masculine and harmonious for males. a very little deviation or none at all or even a negative deviation is really feminine.

balance, you fucking moron BALANCE, if you let yourself be guided by HOW MASCULINE A FACE IS, WHY 2.30 FWHR, 1.15 MIDFACE, 100 BIGONIAL WITDH AND 115 JAW FRONTAL ANGLE ARE NOT IDEAL? BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTREMELY DESBALANCED althought they are ''masculine measurements''

 

[killcry]

well i dont fucking know, ask the niggas who make studys about this, i just know that the ideal range of eme angle looks better than a unideal eme angle.

so you admit to not even knowing why this angle is in your formula? and you didn't even read the study you tried to use to explain that very question to me?

balance, you fucking moron BALANCE, IF YOU HAVE TO GUIDE FOR HOW MASCULINE A FACE IS, WHY 2.30 FWHR, 1.15 MIDFACE, 100 BIGONIAL WITDH AND 115 JAW FRONTAL ANGLE ARE NOT IDEAL? BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTREMELY DESBALANCED althought they are ''masculine measurements''

change it for men, male dimorphism trends for more weight on the jaw, therefore change the ideal ranges for that, according to what actually is more average and more balanced, there is a reason why male and female ideals exist and are different from eachother

 

[valentine]

Esr 42

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

so you admit to not even knowing why this angle is in your formula? and you didn't even read the study you tried to use to explain that very question to me?

i just gave u the google information about EME angle idk what are u trying to find, its a well known angle of facial simmetry. several analysts have EME angle in their formulas

change it for men, male dimorphism trends for more weight on the jaw, therefore change the ideal ranges for that, according to what actually is more average and more balanced, there is a reason why male and female ideals exist and are different from eachother

once your jaw is extremely wide becomes desbalanced

 

[killcry]

i just gave u the google information about EME angle idk what are u trying to find, its a well known angle of facial simmetry. several analysts have EME angle in their formulas

you have no idea how they're using it, they just said a lower difference indicates higher symmetry, which is true, if you use it in the way i proposed for actual symmetry, which is most likely how they've been using it. which is not how you're using it, so now you're just straight up missing the point

once your jaw is extremely wide becomes desbalanced

jfa has nothing to do with how wide your jaw is, it's too dependent on the chin, if you actually looked into these ratios instead of blindly pouring every one you could think of into one formula these discrepancies would be apparent to you

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

you have no idea how they're using it, they just said a lower difference indicates higher symmetry, which is true, if you use it in the way i proposed for actual symmetry, which is most likely how they've been using it. which is not how you're using it, so now you're just straight up missing the point

well YEAH, im not gonna study the logic behind on every measurement jfl, i just study the harmony impact, how to mesaure it and the ideal ranges

jfa has nothing to do with how wide your jaw is, it's too dependent on the chin, if you actually looked into these ratios instead of blindly pouring every one you could think of into one formula these discrepancies would be apparent to you

im talking in general, more masculine≠More attractive
like i said, balance. and there's a reason WHY there's a ideal range. and not using extremes like you do.

 

[killcry]

well YEAH, im not gonna study the logic behind on every measurement jfl, i just study the harmony impact, how to mesaure it and the ideal ranges

im talking in general, more masculine≠More attractive
like i said, balance. and there's a reason WHY there's a ideal range. and not using extremes like you do.

No dude it's not an extreme most men just have a slight deviation of like 5+ degrees with more weight on their jaw

 

[killcry]

well YEAH, im not gonna study the logic behind on every measurement jfl, i just study the harmony impact, how to mesaure it and the ideal ranges

Ur legit admitting that you just appeal to arbitrary notions because you're too lazy

 

[Pale God]