If iq is real then answer me this simple question

[mogger123]

Who is smarter; Von Neumann, Einstein, Grothendieck or Goethe?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

@_MVP_

 

[Psychophilly]

Einstein

 

[Deleted member 21467]

all subjective

 

[mogger123]

@slop slinger @OGJBSLAYER

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Goethe.

 

[mogger123]

Goethe.

Incorrect. The answer is none of them because iq isn't real

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Incorrect. The answer is none of them because iq isn't real

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

Grothendieck easily tbh

He was a very deep thinker

 

[mogger123]

Grothendieck easily tbh

He was a very deep thinker

But could he calculate faster than Von Neumann? Or write better than Goethe? Or understand reality deeper than Einstein?

 

[Arditi]

shut the fuck up nigger

 

[Mr. President]

But could he calculate faster than Von Neumann? Or write better than Goethe? Or understand reality deeper than Einstein?

it is called sub intellect remember the savant that could memorize a book by glancing over it but could not speak a word. LOW IQ you NERD

 

[mogger123]

it is called sub intellect remember the savant that could memorize a book by glancing over it but could not speak a word. LOW IQ you NERD

Define subintellect in a way that doesn't sound retarded

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

But could he calculate faster than Von Neumann? Or write better than Goethe? Or understand reality deeper than Einstein?

Any autist can calculate lol

As for writing, it's pretty subjective

Yeah, he understood reality deeper than Einstein

 

[iam good boy]

Who is smarter; Von Neumann, Einstein, Grothendieck or Goethe?

Rameriz

 

[Mr. President]

Define subintellect in a way that doesn't sound retarded

So you know how math and Language are two different things? well, an Iq is not a number to show proficiency in all fields but rather an average of all fields. Due to natural selection, certain parts of the brain become more efficent than others. Thus a Mathematician has the genetics required to logically assess a problem but cannot handle a social situation as easily as a communications major who is 90 IQ. It is all trade offs that come from genetic capital

 

[sharkcel]

Me

 

[mogger123]

Any autist can calculate lol

Not true

As for writing, it's pretty subjective

Also not true

Yeah, he understood reality deeper than Einstein

Einstein actually made groundbreaking discoveries with regard to how we perceive reality

Grothendieck just made up definitions for some super abstract nerd shit

 

[mogger123]

So you know how math and Language are two different things? well, an Iq is not a number to show proficiency in all fields but rather an average of all fields. Due to natural selection, certain parts of the brain become more efficent than others. Thus a Mathematician has the genetics required to logically assess a problem but cannot handle a social situation as easily as a communications major who is 90 IQ. It is all trade offs that come from genetic capital

No, math is language. Jfl not gonna bother reading the rest of you paragraph when your first line is so factually incorrect

 

[cytoplasm]

Mike Mentzer

 

[SAQUIB66]

Einstein moggs

 

[Mr. President]

Mike Mentzer

based but he did site that arthur jones study

 

[cytoplasm]

based but he did site that arthur jones study

Idk what study? I was joking a bit mentzer took things too far in the end, i'm only doing HIT-lite

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

Not true

Also not true

Einstein actually made groundbreaking discoveries with regard to how we perceive reality

Grothendieck just made up definitions for some super abstract nerd shit

Just try this

Go through the work of all these 4 individuals, and see which makes your mind work the hardest

It will be the work of Grothendieck

 

[Krakowski]

RL

 

[mogger123]

Just try this

Go through the work of all these 4 individuals, and see which makes your mind work the hardest

It will be the work of Grothendieck

but surely coming up with more eloquent and digestible ideas that have elements of practicality is higher iq?

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

but surely coming up with more eloquent and digestible ideas that have elements of practicality is higher iq?

It doesn't matter if the work is highly practical or completely theoretical. What matters here is which requires more mental endurance and ability.... the work of Grothendieck is way more complicated compared to the work of Einstein if someone who majored in physics and mathematics with equal understanding and aptitude tried to understand both works

 

[mogger123]

It doesn't matter if the work is highly practical or completely theoretical. What matters here is which requires more mental endurance and ability.... the work of Grothendieck is way more complicated compared to the work of Einstein if someone who majored in physics and mathematics with equal understanding and aptitude tried to understand both works

when evaluating the merit of work done more goes into it than how difficult it is to follow

 

[EnglandBadman]

Who is smarter; Von Neumann, Einstein, Grothendieck or Goethe?

Openheimer

 

[mogger123]

Openheimer

oppenheimer is midiwt compared to these guys

 

[Mr. President]

Idk what study? I was joking a bit mentzer took things too far in the end, i'm only doing HIT-lite

he cited a study that was basically fraud for an ad campaign to push HIT, I love the guy tho

 

[cytoplasm]

he cited a study that was basically fraud for an ad campaign to push HIT, I love the guy tho

The colorado experiment was it that? Yeah it was absurd, arthur jones was businessman i think he just tried to sell his machines

 

[Mr. President]

The colorado experiment was it that? Yeah it was absurd, arthur jones was businessman i think he just tried to sell his machines

exactly

 

[Mr. President]

The colorado experiment was it that? Yeah it was absurd, arthur jones was businessman i think he just tried to sell his machines

its a damn shame he tarnished his legacy for that

 

[_MVP_]

Von neumann

 

[1966Ford]

But could he calculate faster than Von Neumann? Or write better than Goethe? Or understand reality deeper than Einstein?

Einstein was a plagiariser. You fell for a nasty Jew goyim

 

[donttrust]

who tf r these randoms

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

when evaluating the merit of work done more goes into it than how difficult it is to follow

Merit of work done is too ambiguous ...

The work of GRD is in a league of its own. It's too abstract for even pure mathematics

 

[ItsyBitsyJayhawk]

We can take an educated guess but we cannot talk in absolutes. IQ is not the most effective way to measure intelligence. Intelligence is a vast and complex subject. Too vast and complex of a concept to be reduced and confined to a few digits. I've come across individuals with IQs just a hair bit above the human average with insane abstraction prowess. In contrast, I've encountered individuals with ridiculously high IQ scores who completely lack creativity and are only good at playing around with the information or data they are provided with.

 

[Primalsplit]

Incorrect. The answer is none of them because iq isn't real

You're a moron.

 

[looksmaxxed]

Who is smarter; Von Neumann, Einstein, Grothendieck or Goethe?

einstein. never heard of the other faggots. goathe i remember vaguely as a writer or something? lol thinking his iq is comparable to that of a theoretical physicist

 

[incel194012940]

you would have to get them in a room to see who can remember the longest numbers, define the most words, and do the most puzzles

 

[mogger123]

you would have to get them in a room to see who can remember the longest numbers, define the most words, and do the most puzzles

von neumann would win this

 

[mogger123]

Merit of work done is too ambiguous ...

The work of GRD is in a league of its own. It's too abstract for even pure mathematics

but being difficult isnt enough by its own or you could have something that is hard to understand but entirely useless as an extreme example

also if von neumann and grothedieck both had zero knowledge of grothendiecks work and were presented with it, von neumann would be able to understand it quicker. so you are arguing intelligence is enitrely creativity

 

[The Grinch]

First you deny the existence of genders and now you’re denying the existence of IQ. Well maybe you’re right with that one, after seeing you I also stopped believing that IQ exists

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

but being difficult isnt enough by its own or you could have something that is hard to understand but entirely useless as an extreme example

also if von neumann and grothedieck both had zero knowledge of grothendiecks work and were presented with it, von neumann would be able to understand it quicker. so you are arguing intelligence is enitrely creativity

On your 2nd paragraph, we don't know. It's not about who gets to finish the race before everyone else but who gets to explore "places" no else can fathom.

Remember this quote of Schopenhauer

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see."

 

[OGJBSLAYER]

einstein. never heard of the other faggots. goathe i remember vaguely as a writer or something? lol thinking his iq is comparable to that of a theoretical physicist

People here can't even write a single decent paragraph to express their ideas and you think writing ability has weaker correlation to IQ than mathematical ability ? Nope...

Verbal intelligence is real... and it's as equally important as non verbal intelligence

 

[GriffithMaxx]

Newton mogs all I'm afraid.

 

[LiterallyNightwing]

Who is smarter; Von Neumann, Einstein, Grothendieck or Goethe?

Neumann

 

[LampPostPrime]

Not true

Also not true

Einstein actually made groundbreaking discoveries with regard to how we perceive reality

Grothendieck just made up definitions for some super abstract nerd shit

Math is not making up definitions. Math is like the literal opposite of that you have to prove it all.