if it werent for the fact italians and greeks started civilization in europe theyd be considered ethnics

No such thing at my disposal, but I'm surprised they have a Greek subforum now. When did they introduce it? Jfl.
Last time I was in SF it was 2021. That’s when I seen the Greek subforum and most of them considered Greeks white. Only a few didn’t. To be fair even Brazil had a subforum jfl.
 
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Last time I was in SF it was 2021. That’s when I seen the Greek subforum and most of them considered Greeks white. Only a few didn’t.
Well I remember the posts saying only Germanic and Nordic peoples were white from 2011-ish. That's quite some time ago, hence why I have no links at my disposal. I guess because "the white race is dying," they decided to add Greeks and Italians to their ranks. If Turks became Christian, they surely would have added a Turkish subforum as well.
 
Well I remember the posts saying only Germanic and Nordic peoples were white from 2011-ish. That's quite some time ago, hence why I have no links at my disposal. I guess because "the white race is dying," they decided to add Greeks and Italians to their ranks. If Turks became Christian, they surely would have added a Turkish subforum as well.
Idk. I feel like more recently Greeks are considered less white than a decade or two ago. Probably due to more information and also negative Greek stereotypes like crisis and loud, hairy olivecels.
 
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Idk. I feel like more recently Greeks are considered less white than a decade or two ago. Probably due to more information and also negative Greek stereotypes like crisis and loud, hairy olivecels.
Who knows. I don't know the reasoning behind their inclusion but I think what I thought of makes sense. But that's my two cents.
 
Who knows. I don't know the reasoning behind their inclusion but I think what I thought of makes sense. But that's my two cents.
Definitely here Greeks are primarily not considered white. SF is maybe 50/50 now but last I checked it was like 80/20.
 
Definitely here Greeks are primarily not considered white. SF is maybe 50/50 now but last I checked it was like 80/20.
What are you, since you don't consider Greeks to be white, I assume you're not Greek.
 
Southern euros are ethnics thread #1000000000000000001
 
I guess Dimitri should have given it away. What's the other half?
Like white American mystery meat probably English or Scottish ancestry. From the south on my white side.
 
Med pride worldwide
 
Italians and greeks are far more attractive than nordics on average so it doesn't mean if they're considered ethnics or not.
Maybe the stereotypical med you see on Google is more attractive (basically just a white guy with a tan and dark hair). But if you actually to places like Sicily, Greece, Albania, etc. in person and compare them to Swedes, the Swedes mog them all.
 
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Pure cope lol. They always looked like this, ancient ones looked even more darker actually. They have neolithic farmer dna which is why they're darker than northern europeans with less neolithic farmer dna. It doesn't have to do with ethnic dna at all. Their ethnic dna is on the same level as northern europeans which have asian dna, which is less than 5%. It blames my mind how supposedly "knowledge" incels on this forum have 0 knowledge about race or looksmaxxing at all.
Taken into further look, there were many ancient Greeks who looked no different from modern Greeks,
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Definitely a med look ^, nothing Nordic about him.

But you also had Greeks who looked more stereotypically ‘northern European’ I suppose, like Alexander the Great,
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Which nowadays is a lot less prevalent among the modern Greek population. I believe back then it was more phenotypically balanced. I believe the northern appearance is slightly minimized among the modern Greek population.. but you can still find some atypical individuals with a northern look.

Most people say it was all thanks for the Ottomans. But I believe it’s older than that. You know the Greek language was originally introduced into the Balkan peninsula by Indo-Europeans from the north. These Indo-Europeans were likely the ruling class aristocrats, philosophers, scientists, etc. while the metics, slaves/helots and low-class citizens were simply Hellenized people indigenous to the region (Pelasgians, Minoans, Cycladic peoples, etc.). This med intensification likely happened during/after the Hellenization period when metics just became normal Greeks and slaves/helots were freed and also became normal Greeks. So the Greeks were already sorta ‘browner’ or ‘more med’ by the start of the east-Roman Empire.
 
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