If looks aren't subjective why isn't there an ideal male face?

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"Beauty is objective bro"
But then what's the ideal male face, that appeals to 100% of the population? I have yet to see one example
 
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because it's only objective to a degree obviously
 
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Just because no one has 100% appeal doesn’t mean there isn’t an ideal face
 
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Looks are objective and subjective to a certain degree if that makes sense lol
 
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"Beauty is objective bro"
But then what's the ideal male face, that appeals to 100% of the population? I have yet to see one example
I agree that beauty is subjective, and there is only ONE ABSOLUTE PSL KING
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I agree that beauty is subjective, and there is only ONE ABSOLUTE PSL KING
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Zario Bolanos mogs him imo.
But to be honest some foids would choose delon over chico and vice versa, if it's subjective wouldn't 100% of foids choose one over the other
 
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Zario Bolanos mogs him imo.
But to be honest some foids would choose delon over chico and vice versa, if it's subjective wouldn't 100% of foids choose one over the other
I agree. Zario Bolanos is king/emperor
 
Zario Bolanos mogs him imo.
But to be honest some foids would choose delon over chico and vice versa, if it's subjective wouldn't 100% of foids choose one over the other
I think all foids would choose Delon over any of them TBH :feelsokman:

But your argument that beauty is subjective is legit and kinda water :Comfy:

E.g. I find this porn star
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WAY HOTTER than this bitch
Amber


Even though by PSL standards I am insane. :Comfy:

But I legit am attracted to the Jenna Foxx's face. I even remembered her "pseudonim", that is how hot i find her. :feelshehe:

Despite the fact that I in general am not into black women. :unsure:

So, if I THINK LIKE THAT, I do not see any reason, why any woman would not think like that.

So BEAUTY IS SUBJECTIVE.

Everything is subjective, except a recessed jaw :feelsrope:
 
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"Beauty is objective bro"
But then what's the ideal male face, that appeals to 100% of the population? I have yet to see one example
looks are mostly objective
i discovered that recently.. before that (in my blue pill life) i believed, looks are subjective
but then, in my black pill life i came to the conclusion that looks are objective
but now, i KNOW looks are MOSTYL objective.. but there is a little subjective part too

i would say; looks are 70-80% objective and 20-30% subjective

thats why you will never ever appeal to 100% of population with a good looking face, you can reach 70-80% of the population
 
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Nobody has 100% appeal. There are fat 350lbs women with a 0/10 face who think Brad Pitt is not good enough for them.

It's overall harder as a man to appeal to women compared to even an average woman appealing to men (even a slightly above average woman is seen as bangable by 99.99% of men due to various biological reasons, like minimal potential parental investment since men hold no risk in the pregnancy process)

When countless women check you out, when you gain thousands of matches on dating apps within a week, when attractive women routinely hit on you, you know you are PSL 8 (which nobody here is). When you make an Instagram it has hundreds of thousands of thirsty female followers in a couple months.
That's all that matters. That is an objective "chad". Not appealing to 100% of women which is impossible
 
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Nobody has 100% appeal. There are fat 350lbs women with a 0/10 face who think Brad Pitt is not good enough for them.

It's overall harder as a man to appeal to women compared to even an average woman appealing to men (even a slightly above average woman is seen as bangable by 99.99% of men due to various biological reasons, like minimal potential parental investment since men hold no risk in the pregnancy process)

When countless women check you out, when you gain thousands of matches on dating apps within a week, when attractive women routinely hit on you, you know you are PSL 8 (which nobody here is). When you make an Instagram it has hundreds of thousands of thirsty female followers in a couple months.
That's all that matters. That is an objective "chad". Not appealing to 100% of women which is impossible
good response tbh
 
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why are some retards only capable of thinking in absolutes?

looks is 80% objective 20% subjective :feelshmm::tiny:
 
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why are some retards only capable of thinking in absolutes?

looks is 80% objective 20% subjective :feelshmm::tiny:
so ur saying someone who's 4psl could be anywhere from 3.2-4.8psl depending on the foid? jfl
 
so ur saying someone who's 4psl could be anywhere from 3.2-4.8psl depending on the foid? jfl
no, since psl isn't linear :feelsuhh:
 
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jfl the face on the left is not ideal imo
ESPECIALLY the face on the right
Objectively they both are, and you wont find a single women that calls them ugly.
 
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Objectively they both are, and you wont find a single women that calls them ugly.
so the dude on the right is 8psl? jfl
 
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so the dude on the right is 8psl? jfl
Yes, you're an idiot.

Go find a women that calls either of them ugly and come back.
 
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Yes, you're an idiot.

Go find a women that calls either of them ugly and come back.
I'm not talking about whether he's ugly or not dude, I'm talking about the fact that he's 8PSL objectively, which is bullshit
 
I'm not talking about whether he's ugly or not dude, I'm talking about the fact that he's 8PSL objectively, which is bullshit
It's not "bullshit".

Beauty in the past, was never all the exaggerated features you see in the modelling industry today.

Facial Propotions & Ratios are the true indicator to beauty.
 
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I think all foids would choose Delon over any of them TBH :feelsokman:

But your argument that beauty is subjective is legit and kinda water :Comfy:

E.g. I find this porn star
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WAY HOTTER than this bitch
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Even though by PSL standards I am insane. :Comfy:

But I legit am attracted to the Jenna Foxx's face. I even remembered her "pseudonim", that is how hot i find her. :feelshehe:

Despite the fact that I in general am not into black women. :unsure:

So, if I THINK LIKE THAT, I do not see any reason, why any woman would not think like that.

So BEAUTY IS SUBJECTIVE.

Everything is subjective, except a recessed jaw :feelsrope:
beauty is not subjective, fucking retard. Attraction is, but mostly because of perversions. If you would be confident and healthy, you wouldnt be attracted to that hoodlum rat
 
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It's not "bullshit".

Beauty in the past, was never all the exaggerated features you see in the modelling industry today.

Facial Propotions & Ratios are the true indicator to beauty.
I guess your right in the sense that all of his ratios and proportions are completely correct, and no foid would consider him ugly, but he is definitely far from the "ideal" face for attracting the opposite gender or a true 10/10.
He just seems like your average white dude.
If facial proportions and ratios would be the true indicator to beauty, any proportionate face would be a 10/10 which is completely far from the truth
 
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Bones are objective, there’s good bones and bad bones
Coloring is subjective, depends on the girl’s own coloring and whether she’s the type who prefers familiar coloring or exotic coloring relative to herself.
Style is subjective, you’ll find girls who love and hate every kind of clothing and hairstyle

You will never, ever, ever, EVER find a girl who is into leafy chins.
Also, because of these subjective parts, two guys of the same psl level will be seen differently by the same girl based on their subjective features.

This isn’t difficult to understand, nobody should have had to explain this to you
Do better tbh
 
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beauty is not subjective, fucking retard. Attraction is, but mostly because of perversions. If you would be confident and healthy, you wouldnt be attracted to that hoodlum rat
Found a low IQ white supremacistcel :feelshaha:

No, I would be attracted to her either way, I c no perversion at all.
I seriously like her face. Also, I have no need to lie to incels about this :feelsokman:

AND Beauty IS HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE. Within reason of course. If the difference in 2 Normie-points is not subjective, while the difference of 1 point like between 6/10 and 7/10 is almost non-existent, and almost totally decided by subjectivity.

There are thousands of examples of these. If you just left your Basement once in a while... :feelshehe:
 
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Found a low IQ white supremacist :feelshaha:

No, I would be attracted to her either way, I c no perversion at all.
I seriously like her face. Also, I have no need to lie to incels about this :feelsokman:

AND Beauty IS HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE. Within reason of course. If the difference in 2 Normie-points is not subjective, while the difference of 1 point like between 6/10 and 7/10 is almost non-existent, and almost totally decided by subjectivity.

There are thousands of examples of these. If you just left your Basement once in a while... :feelshehe:
Just because it is hard to quantify beauty, doesnt mean it is not objective.

If you are attracted to features that correlate with health issues, then it is a perversion.
 
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Just because it is hard to quantify beauty, doesnt mean it is not objective.

If you are attracted to features that correlate with health issues, then it is a perversion, simple as that.
Mmmm... i probably misunderstood your initial comment :feelsokman:

So, what features of her indicate "bad health", just for lulz explain to this braindeadcel? :feelshah:
 
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Mmmm... i probably misunderstood your initial comment :feelsokman:

So, what features of her indicate "bad health", just for lulz explain to this braindeadcel? :feelshah:
recessed jaw
small hips, wide shoulders on female
sickly undertones
manly voice
etc
 
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Tbh i see people who look like this morph quite often but they are really so random people at shop buying some bread with their also Becky at best gf
:feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh:
 
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not talking about her just in general dude.
Wait, why do you respond to my thread then, where I am arguing with a guy who called my Porn-oneitis a hoodlum rat, and I asked him what features of her he "finds sickly"? :feelshehe:

But yeah, otherwise, not related to her, sure thing (y)
 
KING REIDYZ 👑
 
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I don't know what's so hard to understand, there are objective traits and subjective traits. Strong jaw, good eye area, broad shoulders, straight teeth, dick size, height, low body fat, etc. All traits that 99.99999% of people find attractive and are important to have if you want to be considered attractive. And then there are subjective traits, where there isn't a consensus agreement on what is most attractive. Eye color, hair length and color, skinny vs. ripped, maesthetic or prettyboy, etc. Objective traits are really the only things that matter, and pretty much everyone can agree on the same objective traits that make a man attractive, therefore making beauty objective.
 
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"Beauty is objective bro"
But then what's the ideal male face, that appeals to 100% of the population? I have yet to see one example
If beauty was objective people wouldn't call Cavill ugly:feelskek:
Sendhil over cavill
 
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I think all foids would choose Delon over any of them TBH :feelsokman:

But your argument that beauty is subjective is legit and kinda water :Comfy:

E.g. I find this porn star
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WAY HOTTER than this bitch
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Even though by PSL standards I am insane. :Comfy:

But I legit am attracted to the Jenna Foxx's face. I even remembered her "pseudonim", that is how hot i find her. :feelshehe:

Despite the fact that I in general am not into black women. :unsure:

So, if I THINK LIKE THAT, I do not see any reason, why any woman would not think like that.

So BEAUTY IS SUBJECTIVE.

Everything is subjective, except a recessed jaw :feelsrope:
You probably cope and tell yourself the ugly girl is more realistic for you hence you jerk off to it ngl because she looks deformed
 
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good looks are subjective but there are objectively bad looking features
 
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