If male virginity and female virginity are equally important in the eyes of God, then why did God give women a hymen?

[Aladin]

@TRUE_CEL @SecularIslamist thoughts?

 

[Vermilioncore]

So that a man can know if a woman is lying and punisher her with death. If a man says he’s a virgin, there’s no proof. But a girl has a hymen. You need to pop that cherry

 

[Aladin]

So that a man can know if a woman is lying and punisher her with death. If a man says he’s a virgin, there’s no proof. But a girl has a hymen. You need to pop that cherry

But wouldn’t this imply female virginity is more important?

 

[Vermilioncore]

But wouldn’t this imply female virginity is more important?

Yes it is more important for a female to be a virgin.

 

[flippasav]

Yes it is more important for a female to be a virgin.

Purity mogs

 

[Aladin]

Purity mogs

I hope the people I tagged show up soon

 

[Gengar]

@TRUE_CEL @SecularIslamist thoughts?

There’s hymenplasty clinics all over the world. It doesn’t matter if they have sex before, they can just fake it. The whole world is out to trick men. And to blame are not only the women but also the men. People are disgusting degenerates.

 

[Aladin]

There’s hymenplasty clinics all over the world. It doesn’t matter if they have sex before, they can just fake it. The whole world is out to trick men. And to blame are not only the women but also the men. People are disgusting degenerates.

You’re coping so hard with modern technology. You just hate the fact that you are incel, other men have sex, and they aren’t severely punished.

 

[Gengar]

You’re coping so hard with modern technology. You just hate the fact that you are incel, other men have sex, and they aren’t severely punished.

If you’re a kafir I can understand your delusional point of view.

 

[Aladin]

If you’re a kafir I can understand your delusional point of view.

I’m not a kafir, you’re the one who’s delusional because you are just jelly of men who have sex

 

[Deleted member 26092]

I’m not a kafir, you’re the one who’s delusional because you are just jelly of men who have sex

No it‘s just stupid that women want to have exactly those men that they don‘t or shouldn’t want to date by their own logic.
I‘m not saying a woman has to be a virgin, past a certain age that‘s just delusional and unreasonable.
But if we follow the logic of most of these women who do this surgery or plan to do it, then the men they want to attract wouldn‘t be a good match for them anyways.
Living as a Slut but then deceiving men that are legimitely good or established people will erode the relationship sooner or later.
If a man who cares about her about past wouldn‘t make a good partner for her anyway (by her views and opinion), why go such lengths and do this surgery to attract and pool in exactly those men?
It‘s the same delusion as some dude‘s here have, by saying if they ascend to getting a Stacy after surgeries, they‘re gonna keep quiet about their hardmaxxing past.
In a serious LTR it will come to light eventually.
And you will have to disclose most secrets if you want to keep the relationship stable and make it snowball into something serious later like marriage and having kids together.
This is why after some good months into a relationship I will disclose that I had surgeries.
That‘s also how I can determine if she majorly picked me for my looks or for my personality and Charme.
After all you still need to have good looks to get your foot in the door.
But it won‘t be a whole replacement for trustworthiness and personality if you want to start a serious relationship.
TLDR: Just be upfront with your looksmaxxing with girls some time into the relationship if you want it to last for a long time.
AUTISTIC RANT // OVER

 

[Aladin]

No it‘s just stupid that women want to have exactly those men that they don‘t or shouldn’t want to date by their own logic.
I‘m not saying a woman has to be a virgin, past a certain age that‘s just delusional and unreasonable.
But if we follow the logic of most of these women who do this surgery or plan to do it, then the men they want to attract wouldn‘t be a good match for them anyways.
Living as a Slut but then deceiving men that are legimitely good or established people will erode the relationship sooner or later.
If a man who cares about her about past wouldn‘t make a good partner for her anyway (by her views and opinion), why go such lengths and do this surgery to attract and pool in exactly those men?
It‘s the same delusion as some dude‘s here have, by saying if they ascend to getting a Stacy after surgeries, they‘re gonna keep quiet about their hardmaxxing past.
In a serious LTR it will come to light eventually.
And you will have to disclose most secrets if you want to keep the relationship stable and make it snowball into something serious later like marriage and having kids together.
This is why after some good months into a relationship I will disclose that I had surgeries.
That‘s also how I can determine if she majorly picked me for my looks or for my personality and Charme.
After all you still need to have good looks to get your foot in the door.
But it won‘t be a whole replacement for trustworthiness and personality if you want to start a serious relationship.
TLDR: Just be upfront with your looksmaxxing with girls some time into the relationship if you want it to last for a long time.
AUTISTIC RANT // OVER

A man looksmaxxing cannot be compared to a foid faking virginity.

 

[Deleted member 26092]

A man looksmaxxing cannot be compared to a foid faking virginity.

if there is frauding involved in the looksmaxxing (which it is almost always in some areas to an extent), then it can.

 

[Aladin]

if there is frauding involved in the looksmaxxing (which it is almost always in some areas to an extent), then it can.

Looksmaxxing is not frauding in most cases

 

[Deleted member 26092]

Looksmaxxing is not frauding in most cases

In the eyes of normies and women it is.
Every good quality that wasn‘t handed to you in the first place, and you didn‘t get trough good genetics will be looked as tryhard or overcompensating.
This is why you should only disclose your looksmaxxes to your close family, your partner and a very close friend.
Look up the first rule of looksmaxxing.

 

[Aladin]

In the eyes of normies and women it is.
Every good quality that wasn‘t handed to you in the first place, and you didn‘t get trough good genetics will be looked as tryhard or overcompensating.
This is why you should only disclose your looksmaxxes to your close family, your partner and a very close friend.
Look up the first rule of looksmaxxing.

Not every looksmax is faking genetics. The biggest is leanmaxxinv, which has nothing to do with genes.

 

[Aladin]

If you’re a kafir I can understand your delusional point of view.

Btw you bailed out of this convo. You still haven’t addressed my points. Typical pussy. Don’t broadcast your fucking views of you can’t take back talk.

 

[Gengar]

Btw you bailed out of this convo. You still haven’t addressed my points. Typical pussy. Don’t broadcast your fucking views of you can’t take back talk.

Are you a kafir cuck? If you are I won’t argue with you. If you aren’t then keep coping, hypocrite.

 

[Aladin]

Are you a kafir cuck? If you are I won’t argue with you. If you aren’t then keep coping, hypocrite.

I’m not. However I don’t care if you argue. But don’t go into other threads about this topic and try to argue your fallacious views. Keep your bullshit to yourself.

 

[Gengar]

I’m not. However I don’t care if you argue. But don’t go into other threads about this topic and try to argue your fallacious views. Keep your bullshit to yourself.

You’re not what exactly? My views are most correct when it comes to this. Keep coping to feel better about your degenerate self.

 

[Aladin]

My views are most correct when it comes to this. Keep coping to feel better about your degenerate self.

No they’re not. You don’t even understand what “hypocrite” means, and why it doesn’t apply here.

 

[Gengar]

No they’re not. You don’t even understand what “hypocrite” means, and why it doesn’t apply here.

You still didn’t give a clear answer. Are you Islamic or not?

 

[Aladin]

You still didn’t give a clear answer. Are you Islamic or not?

No I’m not. However that isn’t actually relevant in terms of wanting a virgin being hypocrisy. You’re just trying to weasel your way out of the conversation with some flimsy excuse because you can’t refute my points.

 

[Gengar]

No I’m not. However that isn’t actually relevant in terms of wanting a virgin being hypocrisy. You’re just trying to weasel your way out of the conversation with some flimsy excuse because you can’t refute my points.

I need to see whether or not you share the same values of me. And what points are you talking about that I “couldn’t refute”? Your entire take was shitty and subjective- not rooted in realism.

 

[Aladin]

I need to see whether or not you share the same values of me. And what points are you talking about that I “couldn’t refute”? Your entire take was shitty and subjective- not rooted in realism.

No it is rooted in realism. Men and women are judged in the sexual marketplace based on different standards. Hypocrisy is about certain behaviors being moral or not, condemning others for being immoral for having those traits, while at the same time having those negative MORAL traits yourself.

You are conflating sexual market value with moral righteousness. It’s incorrect.

 

[Gengar]

No it is rooted in realism. Men and women are judged in the sexual marketplace based on different standards. Hypocrisy is about certain behaviors being moral or not, condemning others for being immoral for having those traits, while at the same time having those negative MORAL traits yourself.

You are conflating sexual market value with moral righteousness. It’s incorrect.

You understand that this thread is in the context of religion, right? In which case there is zero difference between the two genders. Pre-marital sex is despicable for both. Hypocrisy is having sex and demanding a woman who is a virgin. Is that you not agreeing with me then?

 

[JBcollector]

@TRUE_CEL @SecularIslamist thoughts?

Male virginity is entirely mental

 

[Gengar]

Male virginity is entirely mental

MENtal.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Yes it is more important for a female to be a virgin.

This, virginity is a female concept because males virginity holds no value

 

[Aladin]

You understand that this thread is in the context of religion, right? In which case there is zero difference between the two genders. Pre-marital sex is despicable for both. Hypocrisy is having sex and demanding a woman who is a virgin. Is that you not agreeing with me then?

The word “demanding” is a strawman, this was more about preferring virgins and desiring one. However, what if a man spends his 20’s drinking, but also makes a bunch of money, and when he is in his early 30’s refuses to go for a woman his age who drank a lot because it made her age bad, even though she has a “good career; and instead the man goes for a younger female who doesn’t drink and is prettier. Is that hypocrisy?

 

[Aladin]

the context of religion, right? In which case there is zero difference between the two genders.

Actually even within religion men and women are not the same, it’s retarded feminists and trans fags pushed the genders are equal and it’s a social construct argument.

So that’s two posts I made btw, make sure if you respond at least address my question in the post above.

 

[Gengar]

Actually even within religion men and women are not the same, it’s retarded feminists and trans fags pushed the genders are equal and it’s a social construct argument.

So that’s two posts I made btw, make sure if you respond at least address my question in the post above.

Yes, within religion men and women have their own roles but when it comes to sexuality there's no difference; the one who has pre-marital sex is a bad person regardless of gender. That is why I am arguing. Of course a man can always get more wives and a woman can get another husbands after being divorced.

 

[Gengar]

The word “demanding” is a strawman, this was more about preferring virgins and desiring one. However, what if a man spends his 20’s drinking, but also makes a bunch of money, and when he is in his early 30’s refuses to go for a woman his age who drank a lot because it made her age bad, even though she has a “good career; and instead the man goes for a younger female who doesn’t drink and is prettier. Is that hypocrisy?

To me this entire debate was "is pre-marital sex good or bad if a man or woman does it?" And my answer was meant to say that it's bad, regardless of gender. In your scenario, since it's not related to sex, I have no problem with the man's choice.

 

[Aladin]

To me this entire debate was "is pre-marital sex good or bad if a man or woman does it?" And my answer was meant to say that it's bad, regardless of gender. In your scenario, since it's not related to sex, I have no problem with the man's choice.

You misinterpreted my post then. Pre-marital sex is sinful. However I’m talking about the fact that if you commit a certain sin, and you have options in mating, is screening out someone because they committed a certain sin which you yourself may be guilty of, hypocrisy? Discrimination in dating choices is different than hypocrisy imo.

 

[Gengar]

You misinterpreted my post then. Pre-marital sex is sinful. However I’m talking about the fact that if you commit a certain sin, and you have options in mating, is screening out someone because they committed a certain sin which you yourself may be guilty of, hypocrisy? Discrimination in dating choices is different than hypocrisy imo.

Yes, I was only arguing pre-marital sex. As long as the sin is not in relation to pre-marital sex, then it should be acceptable. For instance, if you have pre-marital sex and you single someone out because they also had pre-marital sex; that's hypocrisy. But if you had marital sex, you divorce and prefer a woman who didn't have unlawful sex, then that's fine as well, because you didn't have unlawful sex.

 

[Aladin]

Yes, I was only arguing pre-marital sex. As long as the sin is not in relation to pre-marital sex, then it should be acceptable. For instance, if you have pre-marital sex and you single someone out because they also had pre-marital sex; that's hypocrisy. But if you had marital sex, you divorce and prefer a woman who didn't have unlawful sex, then that's fine as well, because you didn't have unlawful sex.

Why would it not be hypocrisy to discriminate for being an alcoholic if you’re an alcoholic?

 

[Gengar]

Why would it not be hypocrisy to discriminate for being an alcoholic if you’re an alcoholic?

I don’t care about that sort of thing. There’s different levels of degeneracy. Alcohol is the first tier and at the lowest it’s sexual. If it’s in the first few tiers I don’t mind.

 

[Aladin]

I don’t care about that sort of thing. There’s different levels of degeneracy. Alcohol is the first tier and at the lowest it’s sexual. If it’s in the first few tiers I don’t mind.

So it’s about what you “mind”. Not based in any logic, just what irks you. You don’t like the idea of a man eating his cake and having it too. That’s what it comes down to. I knew it.

 

[Gengar]

So it’s about what you “mind”. Not based in any logic, just what irks you. You don’t like the idea of a man eating his cake and having it too. That’s what it comes down to. I knew it.

Lousy argument, because it makes no sense. You are not only a degenerate, but also a hypocrite. Which I already knew.

 

[Aladin]

Lousy argument, because it makes no sense. You are not only a degenerate, but also a hypocrite. Which I already knew.

No, my argument makes perfect sense. You are saying that discrimination in choosing a partner for a certain sin you committed isn’t hypocrisy but discrimination for another sin you committed is hypocrisy, and the reasoning wasn’t grounded in any logic, but just what you cared about.

 

[Gengar]

No, my argument makes perfect sense. You are saying that discrimination in choosing a partner for a certain sin you committed isn’t hypocrisy but discrimination for another sin you committed is hypocrisy, and the reasoning wasn’t grounded in any logic, but just what you cared about.

Cope more, degenerate.

 

[Aladin]

Cope more, degenerate.

Nice lack of an argument.

 

[Gengar]

Nice lack of an argument.

There's no point arguing with a hypocrite. Be better than that. Say "Yes, it's hypocritical of me," then I could actually respect you for your honesty. Instead, you try to come up with examples that make no sense to try and prove me wrong.

 

[Aladin]

There's no point arguing with a hypocrite. Be better than that. Say "Yes, it's hypocritical of me," then I could actually respect you for your honesty. Instead, you try to come up with examples that make no sense to try and prove me wrong.

My points make perfect sense. The man who abuses alcohol might harm his looks, but looks are not as important for a man in terms of overall % SMV than a woman’s. Same with virginity

 

[Gengar]

My points make perfect sense. The man who abuses alcohol might harm his looks, but looks are not as important for a man in terms of overall % SMV than a woman’s. Same with virginity

Not the same thing at all. Drinking alcohol doesn't damage your pair-bonding ability.

 

[Aladin]

Not the same thing at all. Drinking alcohol doesn't damage your pair-bonding ability.

It is the same thing in the sense that it is a sin and lowers your SMV. So it definitely isn’t “not the same thing at all”

 

[Gengar]

It is the same thing in the sense that it is a sin and lowers your SMV. So it definitely isn’t “not the same thing at all”

That makes zero sense whatsoever. See? You are a degenerate and your brain has taken damage from it.

 

[Aladin]

That makes zero sense whatsoever. See? You are a degenerate and your brain has taken damage from it.

That actually makes perfect sense though.

You are the one making zero sense. When you date people, it’s a screening process, and you are acting as if men are supposed to not use this natural screening process when dating.