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it would require no effort on his part whatsoever and will only do good according to biblical morality
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"Why hasn't an All Powerful, All Knowing, All Just, All Wise being done x"it would require no effort on his part whatsoever and will only do good according to biblical morality
dnrd atheist cope"Why hasn't an All Powerful, All Knowing, All Just, All Wise being done x"
Ok
exactly"Why hasn't an All Powerful, All Knowing, All Just, All Wise being done x"
Ok
You can believe at any time. You have that free will. And he's already sent a revelation to all of Mankind either way.exactly
he's all knowing so he knows I will only believe in him and follow his morality if he communicates with me directly. he's all powerful so it requires zero effort on his part to do this. so if he's benevolent and his moral code has any meaning he would do this
Wait, what if I was born a psychopath / anti social / schizo / low IQ. How do I have free will? I'm wired to not understand and be against everything.You can believe at any time. You have that free will. And he's already sent a revelation to all of Mankind either way.
but he created me. so he knowingly made me in a way where I wouldn't believe in him without direct communication and then didn't communicate directly with me. that's kinda fucked upYou can believe at any time. You have that free will. And he's already sent a revelation to all of Mankind either way.
yeah, free-will (in the religious sense) has been thoroughly debuked by scientific advancements at this pointWe all start at different points, some people are dumber than other, some people are healthier than others, some people are born psychopats, some people have mental illness etc.
Let's assume that I found Christ (or Allah, or Moses idk) and I'm a really good boy and I believe in the one single truth (If I even was fortunate enough to be born in a place where they practice the right religion) let's say that one day I get into a serious accident and I get a massive brain damage, later on I'm just turning into a Satanist and I wanna see blood, degeneracy, madness, and misery. How is that my fault? I didn't decide anything, I had a random accident which resulted in my brain getting fucked and that's beyond my control.
I was a good Christian boy and I catched Schizophrenia and now I hear the devil and I'm a Satanist at heart. The bible? crap. Well what now?
what if I was born as a low IQ individual (asking for a friend) and someone just brainwashed me into not believing the bible and I have 80IQ so I can't think much for myself, well what now? I'm going to hell because I was born with a low IQ?
You see, believing is not a free will choice but a random act X random events. Maybe you're 120IQ healthy individual and you came to the conclusion that the bible is real. You could only come to this conclusion because your machine allowed you to. Well what if I'm a psychopath with 82IQ? Huh?! what if my amygdala is so fucking inactive I can't be persuade by fear (hell) or I'm too dumb I can't be persuade by reason (IQ)
What fucking now? you supposed to navigate a machine you ultimately have no control over (or your circumstances) into getting into the EXACT same destiny as all other humans with different brains, circumstances, luck, health. What the fuck? It just doesn't make any sense.
Your Amygdala is so fucking huge and active you just hear the word ''Hell'' you're sweating. Well, in that case it's easy to understand what led you there.
What if I was born a bad boy? what if you catched tuberculosis at age 20 and it got to your brain and did some type of permanent damage? you seem fine but maybe that's the reason why you're fucked and don't care about religion, or do crimes, or stupid or whatever.
What is this bullshit? what if the only way to get to heaven is to build rockets and master relativity while getting an IQ score of 180. What now? I can't do that. Just like how a fucked up person (for literally whatever reason) a lot of times can't come to certain conclusions because his machine is just literally not built for it. And if he did by chance, it's chance.
Based. I’m never really heard a concrete response to this dilemmaWe all start at different points, some people are dumber than other, some people are healthier than others, some people are born psychopats, some people have mental illness etc.
Let's assume that I found Christ (or Allah, or Moses idk) and I'm a really good boy and I believe in the one single truth (If I even was fortunate enough to be born in a place where they practice the right religion) let's say that one day I get into a serious accident and I get a massive brain damage, later on I'm just turning into a Satanist and I wanna see blood, degeneracy, madness, and misery. How is that my fault? I didn't decide anything, I had a random accident which resulted in my brain getting fucked and that's beyond my control.
I was a good Christian boy and I catched Schizophrenia and now I hear the devil and I'm a Satanist at heart. The bible? crap. Well what now?
what if I was born as a low IQ individual (asking for a friend) and someone just brainwashed me into not believing the bible and I have 80IQ so I can't think much for myself, well what now? I'm going to hell because I was born with a low IQ?
You see, believing is not a free will choice but a random act X random events. Maybe you're 120IQ healthy individual and you came to the conclusion that the bible is real. You could only come to this conclusion because your machine allowed you to. Well what if I'm a psychopath with 82IQ? Huh?! what if my amygdala is so fucking inactive I can't be persuade by fear (hell) or I'm too dumb I can't be persuade by reason (IQ)
What fucking now? you supposed to navigate a machine you ultimately have no control over (or your circumstances) into getting into the EXACT same destiny as all other humans with different brains, circumstances, luck, health. What the fuck? It just doesn't make any sense.
Your Amygdala is so fucking huge and active you just hear the word ''Hell'' you're sweating. Well, in that case it's easy to understand what led you there. What if I was born a bad boy? what if you catched tuberculosis at age 20 and it got to your brain and did some type of permanent damage? you seem fine but maybe that's the reason why you're fucked and don't care about religion, or do crimes, or stupid or whatever.
What is this bullshit? what if the only way to get to heaven is to build rockets and master relativity while getting an IQ score of 180. What now? I can't do that. Just like how a fucked up person (for literally whatever reason) a lot of times can't come to certain conclusions because his machine is just literally not built for it. And if he did by chance, it's chance.
You are telling God what to do , it doesnt work like that buddy boyo .
You are only judged according to your capacities. If you're a retard, schizo or biologically uncapable of making a rational decision for yourself, God won't burden you in the day of Judgement. This is the basic moral teaching of Mozlems and Christians. You didn't need to write all this essay lolWe all start at different points, some people are dumber than other, some people are healthier than others, some people are born psychopats, some people have mental illness etc.
Let's assume that I found Christ (or Allah, or Moses idk) and I'm a really good boy and I believe in the one single truth (If I even was fortunate enough to be born in a place where they practice the right religion) let's say that one day I get into a serious accident and I get a massive brain damage, later on I'm just turning into a Satanist and I wanna see blood, degeneracy, madness, and misery. How is that my fault? I didn't decide anything, I had a random accident which resulted in my brain getting fucked and that's beyond my control.
I was a good Christian boy and I catched Schizophrenia and now I hear the devil and I'm a Satanist at heart. The bible? crap. Well what now?
what if I was born as a low IQ individual (asking for a friend) and someone just brainwashed me into not believing the bible and I have 80IQ so I can't think much for myself, well what now? I'm going to hell because I was born with a low IQ?
You see, believing is not a free will choice but a random act X random events. Maybe you're 120IQ healthy individual and you came to the conclusion that the bible is real. You could only come to this conclusion because your machine allowed you to. Well what if I'm a psychopath with 82IQ? Huh?! what if my amygdala is so fucking inactive I can't be persuade by fear (hell) or I'm too dumb I can't be persuade by reason (IQ)
What fucking now? you supposed to navigate a machine you ultimately have no control over (or your circumstances) into getting into the EXACT same destiny as all other humans with different brains, circumstances, luck, health. What the fuck? It just doesn't make any sense.
Your Amygdala is so fucking huge and active you just hear the word ''Hell'' you're sweating. Well, in that case it's easy to understand what led you there. What if I was born a bad boy? what if you catched tuberculosis at age 20 and it got to your brain and did some type of permanent damage? you seem fine but maybe that's the reason why you're fucked and don't care about religion, or do crimes, or stupid or whatever.
What is this bullshit? what if the only way to get to heaven is to build rockets and master relativity while getting an IQ score of 180. What now? I can't do that. Just like how a fucked up person (for literally whatever reason) a lot of times can't come to certain conclusions because his machine is just literally not built for it. And if he did by chance, it's chance.
Where does it start? where does it end? you didn't answer anything. It's all random and your answer is ''Your capacity bro!''You are only judged according to your capacities. If you're a retard, schizo or biologically uncapable of making a rational decision for yourself, God won't burden you in the day of Judgement. This is the basic moral teaching of Mozlems and Christians. You didn't need to write all this essay lol
so god rewards homicidal crazy people?You are only judged according to your capacities. If you're a retard, schizo or biologically uncapable of making a rational decision for yourself, God won't burden you in the day of Judgement. This is the basic moral teaching of Mozlems and Christians. You didn't need to write all this essay lol
why not?You are telling God what to do , it doesnt work like that buddy boyo .
I guess it would be funny if you fell into his little side trick and go to hell hehe.why not?
if he didnt want me to do it he would have made it impossible
nah he's benevolent so were chillI guess it would be funny if you fell into his little side trick and go to hell hehe.
I can't read or understand what they say I have 70IQ. I can only write comments like that.You’re just subhuman level in your spiritual growth. Go to mosques, churches by and find out.
no i dont think i willYou’re just subhuman level in your spiritual growth. Go to mosques, churches by and find out.
It's a very straightforward formula, make of it what you wish. It doesn't take much mental effort to apply it to different capacity scenarios, I'm not your course teacher.Where does it start? where does it end? you didn't answer anything. It's all random and your answer is ''Your capacity bro!''
It's very possible that God doesn't punish atheists, since most of them are ironically people who think the most about God and so many of them are so autistically naive, epistemologically speaking.so god rewards homicidal crazy people?
or skeptics who will never believe in him without sufficinet proof?
stfu midwitIt's a very straightforward formula, make of it what you wish. It doesn't take much mental effort.
It's very possible that God doesn't punish atheists, since most of them are ironically people who think the most about God and so many of them are so autistically naive, epistemologically speaking.
What the fuck does that even mean, caging at your brain. Formula! Make it what you wish! sounds like a commercial to heaven type shit.It's a very straightforward formula, make of it what you wish. It doesn't take much mental effort to apply it to different capacity scenarios, I'm not your course teacher.
You see how literally subhuman you sound?no i dont think i will
I sound like a high iq chadYou see how literally subhuman you sound?
You looksmax to get girls to talk to you? Why do you expect the almighty will just freely communicate you without spirituality maxing, There is no free lunch in this world .