If this aint chadlite atleast i dont know what is

Ur decent looking but ur not chadlite imo, calling others jealous is just u coping. Ur main failos are faggy/fruity looks despite not even having typical prettyboy looks which is odd. Also buggy eyes plus other minor stuff. Still htn imo

Id say a legit chadlite facially would be someone like @pneumocystosis who mogs you.
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In any case, idk why ur coping so hard. Any1 whos actually chadlite/chad would know from IRL treatment frm women. Thats why forum chads like crisick amnesia arvid etc never care whenever others call them htn
 
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Tbh your nose was perfectly okay before and it doesn't look that bulbeous but for 200$ its a good job.

I actually have a bulbeous and have been contemplating about rhino after i fully finish softmaxxing. But unlike you I have thick nose skin and I could look uncanny or looksmin myself if rhino goes bad


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I didnt post any picture from the front, from the side it wasnt noticible but from the front it was bad like really bad alot worse than yours.
If you can get a good surgeon with a good price i would recommend rhinoplasty, but again its not really bad like it was in my case.
 
Ur decent looking but ur not chadlite imo, calling others jealous is just u coping. Ur main failos are faggy/fruity looks despite not even having typical prettyboy looks which is odd. Also buggy eyes plus other minor stuff. Still htn imo

Id say a legit chadlite facially would be someone like @pneumocystosis who mogs you. View attachment 2006285

In any case, idk why ur coping so hard. Any1 whos actually chadlite/chad would know from IRL treatment frm women. Thats why forum chads like crisick amnesia arvid etc never care whenever others call them htn
Im not coping and im not calling other jealous, unless they are pure hate which im pretty sure its jealousy but alot of comments were very detailed and i agree with them.
But yeah if thats the standard for chadlite i agree im not a chadlite.
 
Ur decent looking but ur not chadlite imo, calling others jealous is just u coping. Ur main failos are faggy/fruity looks despite not even having typical prettyboy looks which is odd. Also buggy eyes plus other minor stuff. Still htn imo

Id say a legit chadlite facially would be someone like @pneumocystosis who mogs you. View attachment 2006285

In any case, idk why ur coping so hard. Any1 whos actually chadlite/chad would know from IRL treatment frm women. Thats why forum chads like crisick amnesia arvid etc never care whenever others call them htn
Do you have any idea whats keeping me from reaching the prettyboy look? Bcs thats what im trying to achieve.
 
Ur decent looking but ur not chadlite imo, calling others jealous is just u coping. Ur main failos are faggy/fruity looks despite not even having typical prettyboy looks which is odd. Also buggy eyes plus other minor stuff. Still htn imo

Id say a legit chadlite facially would be someone like @pneumocystosis who mogs you. View attachment 2006285

In any case, idk why ur coping so hard. Any1 whos actually chadlite/chad would know from IRL treatment frm women. Thats why forum chads like crisick amnesia arvid etc never care whenever others call them htn
Also i checked the guys posts. If thats the standard for chadlite im in the wrong here and youre totally right. This dude is just insane. Any idea what body fat % is he?
 
Also i checked the guys posts. If thats the standard for chadlite im in the wrong here and youre totally right. This dude is just insane. Any idea what body fat % is he?
Idk if hes the bar for chadlite but hes quite solidly a chadlite, and i dont see too many of those here. As for BF % id say hes 12% but very debloated. Check out his debloating threads. Also the pic i posted was one of his better photos since the others didnt load. I still think you have potential for chadlite though.
Do you have any idea whats keeping me from reaching the prettyboy look? Bcs thats what im trying to achieve.
An ideal prettyboy would be one with robust hard features and pretty soft features.

Id say get your eyebrows taken care of, u have good shape and density but they are too long vertically, giving a bushy fruity look. You could go to a brow salon or watch some videos on it.

Your skin quality is good but u have abit of "gay glow" from tretinoin, with the reddish undertone, it dosent really suit your pheno. I think u could benefit from a tan or beta carotene.

Ur lips can also be widened with the mouth stretching device in BOTB, it works but u have to be consistent, also idt it gives nasolabial folds.

Could try experimenting with ur hairstyle (length, straighter, etc) and ur beard. Hard to visualise it rn.

Ur eye area isnt that bad but kinda caps u aswell, but that may require procedures for UEE or maybe lower lid retraction, but i think u could max out ur other parts first.

Also leanmaxx if u arent already lean, but it seems like u have decent angularity already.
 
Idk if hes the bar for chadlite but hes quite solidly a chadlite, and i dont see too many of those here. As for BF % id say hes 12% but very debloated. Check out his debloating threads. Also the pic i posted was one of his better photos since the others didnt load. I still think you have potential for chadlite though.

An ideal prettyboy would be one with robust hard features and pretty soft features.

Id say get your eyebrows taken care of, u have good shape and density but they are too long vertically, giving a bushy fruity look. You could go to a brow salon or watch some videos on it.

Your skin quality is good but u have abit of "gay glow" from tretinoin, with the reddish undertone, it dosent really suit your pheno. I think u could benefit from a tan or beta carotene.

Ur lips can also be widened with the mouth stretching device in BOTB, it works but u have to be consistent, also idt it gives nasolabial folds.

Could try experimenting with ur hairstyle (length, straighter, etc) and ur beard. Hard to visualise it rn.

Ur eye area isnt that bad but kinda caps u aswell, but that may require procedures for UEE or maybe lower lid retraction, but i think u could max out ur other parts first.

Also leanmaxx if u arent already lean, but it seems like u have decent angularity already.
Thank you alot dude. I dont know how to thank you enough. Thats the best advice ive gotten. Im do everything you said. And leave my eye area for the last.

For the skin youre right the tret is giving a slight gayish glow but i cant stop it rn.
As for tanning i uses to go to a tanning bed but rn cant do that bcs of the tret.
I tried many self tanners for the face but they didnt work especially cause i have acne and combination skin.
I was thinking of trying beta carotene and now that you mentioned it im gonna start it. Can you tell me about the dosage that i should take? And also how long to expect results?

For the lip part i dont have any idea what youre talking about but im gonna reasearch it and see the benefits/negatives ratio bcs u mentioned that it can give nasolable folds which im scared of caused im developing a little bit.

For the eyebrows i thought that it was a good look bcs they are thick and dense. How do you recommend me to do them?

And finally rn im 15% the light stubble is making me look a little bit leaner thats the biggest reason im keeping it and trying to make it denser.
Im gonna try to go down to between 8-10% bf
Is starving myself a good strategy for achieving that bcs its the fastest and easiest way imo cause i can do it by using amphetamines and going to work to make me foeget about food.

And finay for debloating what is the best thing to do for that ? Is it just the sodium/potassium ratio that matters or carbs do also matter?
Bcs im confused about the carbs thing bcs fron what ive read and seen is that the carbs get absorbs by the muscles and doest cause bloating. If you have insight on that it would be appreciated.

And again, thank you alot for your tips.
 
just imagine him next to a strong chadlite/weak chad like arvid

would be an insane mog
 
Thank you alot dude. I dont know how to thank you enough. Thats the best advice ive gotten. Im do everything you said. And leave my eye area for the last.

For the skin youre right the tret is giving a slight gayish glow but i cant stop it rn.
As for tanning i uses to go to a tanning bed but rn cant do that bcs of the tret.
You dont have to stop the tret, just cruise on it and either buffer it with moisturizer before applying, or switch to lower frequency since u already have good skin. Not a big concern though if u can get tanner

I tried many self tanners for the face but they didnt work especially cause i have acne and combination skin.
I was thinking of trying beta carotene and now that you mentioned it im gonna start it. Can you tell me about the dosage that i should take? And also how long to expect results?
Try tanning drops instead, u put them on and the tan comes in a few hours and u only have to apply every 3-5days. I got one from Isle of paradise, but it hasnt arrived yet. It has pretty good reviews and some guys here have tried it.

For beta carotene, take like 50k IU daily for like 2 months and see if u get results. If results are good just cruise at 25k IU and ur good. If after 2 months no results then u could probably drop it since it may not work on everyone. Softmaxxing is all about trial and error since different things work on diff people.

For the lip part i dont have any idea what youre talking about but im gonna reasearch it and see the benefits/negatives ratio bcs u mentioned that it can give nasolable folds which im scared of caused im developing a little bit.
Check out the one in best of the best section called "mouth widening appliance" l think u could benefit from 0.5-1cm of width. Some guys have gotten good results no folds. Im using it too but just started so no results yet.


For the eyebrows i thought that it was a good look bcs they are thick and dense. How do you recommend me to do them?
Thick and dense is good, but urs is too tall vertically. Look at guys like chico and opry, their brows are thick but narrower.

And finally rn im 15% the light stubble is making me look a little bit leaner thats the biggest reason im keeping it and trying to make it denser.
Im gonna try to go down to between 8-10% bf
Is starving myself a good strategy for achieving that bcs its the fastest and easiest way imo cause i can do it by using amphetamines and going to work to make me foeget about food.
Nah dont starve urself ur gonna lose too much muscle and u alr have good definition so just lose weight normally.


And finay for debloating what is the best thing to do for that ? Is it just the sodium/potassium ratio that matters or carbs do also matter?
Bcs im confused about the carbs thing bcs fron what ive read and seen is that the carbs get absorbs by the muscles and doest cause bloating. If you have insight on that it would be appreciated.
Tbh ive experimented with my potassium sodium shit and it dosent do much. Carbs aswell. Only thing that worked for me was diuretics and cardio.


And again, thank you alot for your tips.
np, pm me if u need anymore help.
 
brows are brushed too much. looks feminine.

you are 100% not chadlite. You are low HTN
I think he’s more like a high tier HTN
 
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Tanning... Never heard of an ethnic tanning unless they're Latino.
 
You dont have to stop the tret, just cruise on it and either buffer it with moisturizer before applying, or switch to lower frequency since u already have good skin. Not a big concern though if u can get tanner


Try tanning drops instead, u put them on and the tan comes in a few hours and u only have to apply every 3-5days. I got one from Isle of paradise, but it hasnt arrived yet. It has pretty good reviews and some guys here have tried it.

For beta carotene, take like 50k IU daily for like 2 months and see if u get results. If results are good just cruise at 25k IU and ur good. If after 2 months no results then u could probably drop it since it may not work on everyone. Softmaxxing is all about trial and error since different things work on diff people.


Check out the one in best of the best section called "mouth widening appliance" l think u could benefit from 0.5-1cm of width. Some guys have gotten good results no folds. Im using it too but just started so no results yet.



Thick and dense is good, but urs is too tall vertically. Look at guys like chico and opry, their brows are thick but narrower.


Nah dont starve urself ur gonna lose too much muscle and u alr have good definition so just lose weight normally.



Tbh ive experimented with my potassium sodium shit and it dosent do much. Carbs aswell. Only thing that worked for me was diuretics and cardio.



np, pm me if u need anymore help.
Thank you alot, thats why im here , for people like you that give constructive crititism and tips.
Im gonna pm you for sure.
 
Even lower it was like between 150 to 200 i forgot.
Unless the surgery was in the Congo or covered by insurance- you did not get a rhino for $150 dollars

It’s a 2-3 hour surgery- and you need atleast 2 nurses to assist (normally3) the surgeon during the procedure + an anaesthetist , that’s 4 people for 3 hours of work =12 hours , which would be minimum wage. This doesn’t include base hospital costs (normwlly 2k) or anaesthesia costs (another 1.5-2k)
 
Unless the surgery was in the Congo or covered by insurance- you did not get a rhino for $150 dollars

It’s a 2-3 hour surgery- and you need atleast 2 nurses to assist (normally3) the surgeon during the procedure + an anaesthetist , that’s 4 people for 3 hours of work =12 hours , which would be minimum wage. This doesn’t include base hospital costs (normwlly 2k) or anaesthesia costs (another 1.5-2k)
Focus a little bit u low iq shit, i did it with insurrance because it was supposed to be a polyps surgery and paid the dr extra 200$ to remove the bump and reduce the tip.
Im from lebanon btw. A rhinoplasty here costs around 4000$ unless you do what i did. And its rare to find a good doctor that would agree to do what i did.
 
Focus a little bit u low iq shit, i did it with insurrance because it was supposed to be a polyps surgery and paid the dr extra 200$ to remove the bump and reduce the tip.
Im from lebanon btw. A rhinoplasty here costs around 4000$ unless you do what i did. And its rare to find a good doctor that would agree to do what i did.
I didn't know tanning was a thing in non white countries except Brazil. Are you whitewashed or what?
 
Chadlite, could be Chad if you are really tall.

There's 2 things you can improve tho:

- Tret glow looksmins you hard. Tret can pernanently clear your skin meaning that maybe if you get off tret now you still wouldnt get acne. I am off tret rn for like 3 months and only get pimples if I drink milk or eat a lot of sugar.

- That hairstyle, it looks unkept. Try growing it out a bit, even a buzzcut could look better on you (depending on your skull shape)
 
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Mtn or poss HTN bottom end bhai, imo
 
Chadlite, could be Chad if you are really tall.

There's 2 things you can improve tho:

- Tret glow looksmins you hard. Tret can pernanently clear your skin meaning that maybe if you get off tret now you still wouldnt get acne. I am off tret rn for like 3 months and only get pimples if I drink milk or eat a lot of sugar.

- That hairstyle, it looks unkept. Try growing it out a bit, even a buzzcut could look better on you (depending on your skull shape)
Thanks man im still gonna use tret until my skin becomes 100% perfect then reduce the frequency to like 2 or 3 times a week.

Rn im using it everynight and 3 fingertips instead of 1.
 
Gareful with that, you can develop MGD
Okay thank you for telling me that, i already have dry eyes from prk surgery ( similar to lasik).
Im gonna lower the quantity and not apply it next to the eyes
 
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Okay thank you for telling me that, i already have dry eyes from prk surgery ( similar to lasik).
Im gonna lower the quantity and not apply it next to the eyes
I never aplied it near my eyes and still developed a weak MGD, and I only realised it after getting off tret. Not trying to scare you or anything but be very careful 👍👍
 
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Okay thank you for telling me that, i already have dry eyes from prk surgery ( similar to lasik).
Im gonna lower the quantity and not apply it next to the eyes
Christian Arab detected
 
Took this pic rn without any filter or anything and if this aint chadlite at least i think the rope would do it lol
i would say chadlite i dont know what people here are on. Good midface, only failo is low cheekbones and scleral show. Low cheeks not a failo per say and scleral show can be solved.
 
If you fix your eye area you will ascend hard.. u have prey eyes
 
Brows too bushy
Eyes too brown
Sceleral show
Lips 404
Longish midface
above avg bones
No hair halo

6/10 on a good day
6.5 if your 6’1+ or got a 95th percentile physique
 
Defo a chadlite. If you actually look like this, that might be enough to pull even the baddest stacies out there, as long as you aint aspie og retarded. If seen guys with you pheno pulling girls left and right.
 
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Yk 5psl is htm but i agree with nitsik

U guys are coping because he is narcy he's not chadlite only due to eye area but I'd say very strong htn
5 psl is low chadlite
He's like 4.75 psl
 
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Brows too bushy
Eyes too brown
Sceleral show
Lips 404
Longish midface
above avg bones
No hair halo

6/10 on a good day
6.5 if your 6’1+ or got a 95th percentile physique
Im not 6'1 sadly but i had 95% which i could easily get back from muscle memory ( i trained for 5years and now have stopped for 7month).
I dont get the lips thing, i get alot of compliments from girls on my lips. First the lips then the nose.
In this pic my lips are very dry bcs i didnt use chapstick like usually do.
 
i would say chadlite i dont know what people here are on. Good midface, only failo is low cheekbones and scleral show. Low cheeks not a failo per say and scleral show can be solved.
I didnt know that scelar show was a bad thing. I thought white scelra thats obvious was a good thing.
And whats the fix for scelra exposure?
 
Defo a chadlite. If you actually look like this, that might be enough to pull even the baddest stacies out there, as long as you aint aspie og retarded. If seen guys with you pheno pulling girls left and right.
Id say thats right
 
I never aplied it near my eyes and still developed a weak MGD, and I only realised it after getting off tret. Not trying to scare you or anything but be very careful 👍👍
Yeah thanks alot for letting me know. Ill be extra carefull around the eyes
 
I didn't know tanning was a thing in non white countries except Brazil. Are you whitewashed or what?
In lebanon you have a mixed of arab guys and white guys im the white type of guy.
 
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Fucking moron for not having colored contacts already

Eyes look wider than the white black IQ gap but may be lens distortion
 
Lebanese, but we are all really white in the family. I dont know if my great great great great grandmother fucked some greek guy
 
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Fucking moron for not having colored contacts already

Eyes look wider than the white black IQ gap but may be lens distortion
What color?
 
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What color?
Use Facetune go to eyes click “lens” try different ones out then TDDeye Colorcl or Solotica (nicer lens) and try some colors

May take a few to find a good real looking one but boost you massively
 
Use Facetune go to eyes click “lens” try different ones out then TDDeye Colorcl or Solotica (nicer lens) and try some colors

May take a few to find a good real looking one but boost you massively
Thanks for the advice, appreciated
 
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I didnt know that scelar show was a bad thing. I thought white scelra thats obvious was a good thing.
And whats the fix for scelra exposure?
no its a famous failo and i think there are some surgeries
 

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