If u have sub5PSL looks, u need to mgtow.

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NT, personality, money, status. All of these things aren't known untill women date you.

Not getting dates is the issue that 95% of men face though. Because they get rejected based on looks and dont get dates.
I get a date only like once every 2-3 months, it's not enough. U need to be able to get girls on dates 3+ times per week (when u have time + energy for this) untill u can start considering that ur looks are good enough for women now, and u need to focus on the rest. But this is like 5+ PSL tier.

None of us are ugly. We are all good dudes. Enjoy ur life solo cuz ur never gonna be good-looking enough for women to date you ever anyways.
 
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NT, personality, money, status. All of these things aren't known untill women date you.

Not getting dates is the issue that 95% of men face though. Because they get rejected based on looks.

None of us are ugly. We are all good dudes. Enjoy ur life solo cuz ur never gonna be good-looking enough for women to date you ever anyways.
I agree I joined the mgtow community a few months and best decision I ever made
 
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didnt read a single word
 
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I agree I joined the mgtow community a few months and best decision I ever made
Trying to become good enough for female dating standards has destroyed my life.

Not low inhib enough, not jestermaxxed enough, not lean+muscled enough, not NT enough, etc. It's never good enough.

I was so focussed on this that I stopped focussing on myself and stopped having fun in life.
 
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Trying to become good enough for female dating standards has destroyed my life.

Not low inhib enough, not jestermaxxed enough, not lean+muscled enough, not NT enough, etc. It's never good enough.

I was so focussed on this that I stopped focussing on myself and stopped having fun in life.
Yeah fuck all that shit, I’m actually becoming transgender soon
 
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Never change for women, their standards are insane and you will destroy your life by trying to appeal to them.

Focus on yourself. Women not liking you is NORMAL. Inceldom is normal. 95% of men don't have a fullfilling sex/romance life.
No point in fucking over your life trying to reject what is natural and normal.
 
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Dont ever let yourself get gaslit by idiots that will say you are somehow severaly mentally ill/ugly if you cant get women.

Perfectly decent guys like myself with good jobs, good looks, fit, extroverted and social, CAN NOT get women.

Yeah I am mentally ill but it's never prevented me from getting a high-tier customer interaction job where I get PRAISED for how social/easy-going I am. It's never stopped me from being respected by men.

My mental illness is an issue I need to fix, but it's not the reason why I do poorly with women. I can fake a 'NT' personality extremely well and I have been doing so for years. Doing it on a single date is child's play for me.

Gaslighting on this forums needs to stop. Inceldom is normal because women have insane standards.

Online Dating = Real life in 2022. There is no denying it. And if you don't get matches on tinder (90% of men) then it means you are not good-looking enough for women.



At some point in the future we incels can ascend with rape and kidnapping during wars or social instability when the chance to get caught is lower. Untill then we don't have much chance with women unfortunately.
 
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didnt read a single word
reminder ops only IRL social contact is sitting down with plastic surgeons to say a few last words before getting put to sleep by the nurse
 
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More like mstow
 
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reminder ops only IRL social contact is sitting down with plastic surgeons to say a few last words before getting put to sleep by the nurse
Convos


This is the type of conversation/flow I have with women on dating apps and on dates.

I don't think I am particularly good/impressive at social interaction, I don't think this is a 'alpha chad-tier conversation' but if this type of conversation style is so subhuman that it makes it unable for women to ever be attracted to me, then its over. Cuz I think its 'ok' imo.

over
 
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You will never get women as a subchad outside of a environment like high school or college
 
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Personality is extremely malleable.

When girls treat me like I am subhuman, my personality becomes either defeatist or angry.
When girls treat me well, I become extroverted, positive and chatty.

And since looks decide how women treat you (and thereby decide your personality) it means looks=personality
 
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This site is extremely bluepilled.

If u are fine with mgtow, then its an okay website.

But if u want do well with women u should consider leg lengthening even at 6'0. HT at anything worse than nw0. Roids always. Etc.
You can't afford to not maximize everything if u ever want to do well with women since women rate harsher than even the most brutal blackpiller on this forum.
 
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This is the type of conversation/flow I have with women on dating apps and on dates.

I don't think I am particularly good/impressive at social interaction, I don't think this is a 'alpha chad-tier conversation' but if this type of conversation style is so subhuman that it makes it unable for women to ever be attracted to me, then its over. Cuz I think its 'ok' imo.

over
what are you even trying to prove
you're just depressed
 
what are you even trying to prove
you're just depressed
people tell me that im an autistic anti-social introvert shut-in non-NT retard, and thats why I cant get girls.
 
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NT, personality, money, status. All of these things aren't known untill women date you.

Not getting dates is the issue that 95% of men face though. Because they get rejected based on looks and dont get dates.
I get a date only like once every 2-3 months, it's not enough. U need to be able to get girls on dates 3+ times per week (when u have time + energy for this) untill u can start considering that ur looks are good enough for women now, and u need to focus on the rest. But this is like 5+ PSL tier.

None of us are ugly. We are all good dudes. Enjoy ur life solo cuz ur never gonna be good-looking enough for women to date you ever anyways.
Fucking a new girl every week is so easy with Tinder or going out at night. You have to accept your destiny.
 
Fucking a new girl every week is so easy with Tinder or going out at night. You have to accept your destiny.
if ur chad yes

if ur HTN or below, impossible
 
I agree I joined the mgtow community a few months and best decision I ever made
What is it? Sorry man but heard it only in few occasions
 
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if ur chad yes

if ur HTN or below, impossible
Sad that even being htn can't save many men. Your lean version mogs your fat one to oblivion and still you can't get pussy. This society need to collapse asap
 
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I'd rather be an NT sub 2 than a non-NT 4.
 
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people tell me that im an autistic anti-social introvert shut-in non-NT retard, and thats why I cant get girls.
I doubt ppl tell you this Bro. It sounds like sub Maher abused dog syndrome
 
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I read this is truly sad. But I will be looksmaxxing to my full potential and then traveling to countries where I have an upper hand against the local men and am appreciated more for my physical appearance. Mgtow is cringe and cope.
 
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I doubt ppl tell you this Bro. It sounds like sub Maher abused dog syndrome
Only on this bluepilled gaslighting forum.

people IRL tell me I act confident/extroverted and they always act suprised when I tell them I do poorly with women JFL

Even the 2 girls ive dated longer term tell me they find it strange I dont do well with women. JFL honestly its over
 
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night night
i'm coming at this time
night night
i'm coming at this time
Friday, 8pm, I got in the house
No witnesses to snitch like a mouse
Fucked his bitch then put him in the ditch
Fucked his maid doggystyle and after that I put her in the ditch
Wiped the nigga bodyguard's nose gang style and after that I put him in the ditch
 
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Only on this bluepilled gaslighting forum.

people IRL tell me I act confident/extroverted and they always act suprised when I tell them I do poorly with women JFL

Even the 2 girls ive dated longer term tell me they find it strange I dont do well with women. JFL honestly its over
Don't you slay none of those girls on dating apps
 
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Irl is harder than online dating cos atleast online you can fraud a but

I tried approaching 2 girls tonight and both basically ignored me
 
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This site is extremely bluepilled.

If u are fine with mgtow, then its an okay website.

But if u want do well with women u should consider leg lengthening even at 6'0. HT at anything worse than nw0. Roids always. Etc.
You can't afford to not maximize everything if u ever want to do well with women since women rate harsher than even the most brutal blackpiller on this forum.
I concur with the last sentence - I get rated MTN or HTN depending on the rater- a few people even said I’m chadlite (they defo wrong tjo)


And yet irl I get nothing and I have to giga fraud my pics online and like once or twice a year I get a chance with my looksmatch despite treating online dating like a part time job
 
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Don't you slay none of those girls on dating apps
No.

I'm on 3 dating apps at the same time, I match about 20-30 girls/month on all 3 dating apps combined. (Tinder+Bumble+Happn)
Usually resulting in 1 date/month.

Chance for second-date or a slay is ~20%. So from 5 dates in 5 months, I'll have 1 slay and/or fwb potential.

Tragic truecel tier stats
 
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Nothing Just that you went from top mogger of the forum to chadlite at most
I'm chadlite. With surgery or hard maxing I could become Chad. But surgery is higher risk the better you look. I still mog 90+ percent of men irl so good enough.
 
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I concur with the last sentence - I get rated MTN or HTN depending on the rater- a few people even said I’m chadlite (they defo wrong tjo)


And yet irl I get nothing and I have to giga fraud my pics online and like once or twice a year I get a chance with my looksmatch despite treating online dating like a part time job
This.

I have frauded+filtered pics on my online-dating profiles and struggling to get a looksmatch to get on a date.

IRL is even harder though. Impossible to get looksmatch there.
 
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This.

I have frauded+filtered pics on my online-dating profiles and struggling to get a looksmatch to get on a date.

IRL is even harder though. Impossible to get looksmatch there.
Ngl I did get a girl from hinge to be my FWB who was 0.5 PSL ABOVE my looksmatch AND I’m in the UK as well so a very hard country


But it was a once in a lifetime fluke - it’s not like I can just replace her which automatically leads to a power imbalance in the relationship which eventually leads to her loss of attraction
 
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I hate being 5’4 and non NT! :incel:
 

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